31 May - 1 Jun 42
Highlights - Assault on Bataan begins, Akyab is cut off, and the with the KB’s location unknown a change in plans in SOPAC.
Jpn ships sunk:
AMC: 1 (old sinking confirmed)
xAK: 1
Jpn ships unsunk:
DD: 1 (Kawakaze)
Allied ships sunk:
xAKL: 1
Air loss:
Jpn: 43
Allied: 25
Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 1 ship hit (xAKL sunk)
Allies: 4 Attacks, 1 ship hit (xAK sunk)
Jpn Amph Inv:
Bima (DEI)
Calayan (PI)
Hansa Bay (SWPAC)
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Lashio (Burma)
Bima (DEI)
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: NSTR
West Coast/Admin. Fast troop convoy with two USMC regiments and an army regiment departs LA for Auckland.
In NOPAC. US Bmb TF (2CL, 5DD, DMS) bombards Attu again and returns to DH.
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, US CV TFs move to the eastern side of the New Hebrides without interference. Luganville Amph TF completes loading at Noumea, but with the KBs location unknown, I’m postponing the invasion. While I don’t think its likely that the KB is laying north of Espirutu Santo waiting in ambush, the last time I didn’t think the KB was in SOPAC, I lost a troop convoy. So, I’m going to pull the CVs south to refuel and the Amph TF will head SE out of Noumea an loiter. While air search reports all is clear from Tulagi south, the weather is bad and I’d rather not chance it just yet. Will continue offensive operations once the KB’s location is confirmed elsewhere, or once Efate AF is built up enough to support LRCAP over Luganville. I have no reason to rush and take Luganville right now, so a few days or weeks isn’t critical. Potentially losing CVs or a few APs would be worse than critical. Elsewhere, in SOPAC, the first regiment of the 40th ID loads at Auckland for transit to Sydney, and an infantry battalion loads to land at Tanna.
In SWPAC, Cooktown is hit at night by a few Sallys without effect. Normanton is hit by B-26s as Aus troops begin moving out of Cloncurry towards Normanton. The US 32nd ID breaks down to cover Cairns, Townsville and move on Cloncurry. Still concerned of a “backhand blow” landing troops at Cooktown to Rockhampton.
In WAUS, Port Hedland AF is shut down by sustained Betty attacks. On the Daly Waters front, the 3rd Aus Motor Bde, an AT Bn and a US Eng Bn look like they have escaped the encirclement - the rest of the force won’t be that lucky, and I’ve begun pulling the Tennant Creek covering force (Aus Bde and support) towards Tennant Creek.
In the Philippines, the IJA finally begins its assault of Bataan. Two attacks are held, with substantial IJA losses (1400 and 970 men), but the fort level is reduced to 2. The IJA losses are acceptable for the size force committed and I anticipate Bataan falling in the next few days. Two subs enroute with supply which are close will attempt to bring the supplies in, the remaining 4 at sea along with an xAK will abort.
In China, NSTR
In India/Burma, the IJA’s 16th Army manages to get 2-1 odds north of Akyab and forces the British defenses to withdraw - and of course they elect to withdraw into Akyab instead of Cox’s Bazaar!!! So now I have 2 each reduced Bdes, tank regiments, infantry battalions and BFs in Akyab. Not good, but not really unexpected either. Will see about pulling some of these troops out, but with restricted units, that will be problematic. Also, heavy Jpn fighter sweeps meet heavy CAP over this fight - 12 Oscars and 11 Zeros in exchange for 14 P-40s and 4 Hurris. I’d normally take that exchange, but I’m zero balance P-40 replacements. In mid ‘42, Jpn can afford those kind of losses, the Allies can’t. Lastly, Lashio falls in the first assault.
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RE: 31 May - 1 Jun 42
A little more on the Beaufighter.
Check this comparison to the Ki-45, a plane that is well documented in AARs as not being great when facing 1 engine Allied fighters
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The Ki-45 is either equivalent or the clear winner in most important categories: speed, climb, maneuver. All except armament, what a heavy punch!, but this is overkill against unarmored Japanese planes.
This goes back to being careful in extreme; you should use it sparingly against light defended bases only, otherwise you will consume the pools rather quickly
Check this comparison to the Ki-45, a plane that is well documented in AARs as not being great when facing 1 engine Allied fighters
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The Ki-45 is either equivalent or the clear winner in most important categories: speed, climb, maneuver. All except armament, what a heavy punch!, but this is overkill against unarmored Japanese planes.
This goes back to being careful in extreme; you should use it sparingly against light defended bases only, otherwise you will consume the pools rather quickly
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RE: 31 May - 1 Jun 42
The Ki-45 is either equivalent or the clear winner in most important categories: speed, climb, maneuver. All except armament,
There's one other major point: to the best of my knowledge, there were no versions of the Ki-45 that could drop torpedoes.
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RE: 31 May - 1 Jun 42
Not their role, fighter bombers won't carry torpedoes, just bombs and of course many big cannons.
Won't sink anything that is armored, but will instead massacre anything soft skinned, specially the smaller craft than easily dodge torpedoes
Won't sink anything that is armored, but will instead massacre anything soft skinned, specially the smaller craft than easily dodge torpedoes
2-3 Jun 42
2-3 Jun 42
Highlights - the real highlight is simply getting a turn done while L_S_T is in the middle of a household move! For the turn, heavy IJA attacks in China including Wenchow with corresponding heavy losses to both sides.
Jpn ships sunk: None
Jpn ships unsunk:
DD: 1 (Asigiri)
Allied ships sunk:
AM: 1
xAK: 1
Air loss:
Jpn: 18
Allied: 20
Subwar:
Jpn: 0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Calayan (PI)
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: NSTR
West Coast/Admin. IJN sub spotted 240m SW of San Diego, will send ASW TF to try and hunt it down as another convoy forms up to depart LA.
In NOPAC. NSTR
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, US CV TFs begin refueling 360m SW of Suva and Luganville TF begins loitering just to the north. Will take another turn to refuel the CVs, then will see if we can move on Luganville - IF the KB’s location can be determined. Efate AF now at level 1 and F4Fs arrive. Tanna Invasion (1xUS Inf Bn) ready to depart Auckland as is a troop convoy with two army regiments bound for Sydney.
In SWPAC, Cooktown is bombarded by the IJN (2CA, 2DD) as the PTs were pulled to Townsville to rearm. Minor damage and the PTs will be back on station shortly. Allied air hits Normanton damaging the port and not encountering any opposition as troops assemble at Cloncurry to march north.
In WAUS, Port Hedland is crushed by a BB TF bombardment (2BB, 3CA, 3CL, 7DD) which shuts down the AF and port as well as sinks the offloading xAK and escorting AM. AF remains closed for the foreseeable future. With Allied CV TFs out of the area (Brit CVs heading to Cape Town, US CVs to SOPAC), taking some risk with a small convoy offloading at Carnarvon with supply. Another convoy, with BF engineers, departing Perth bound for Carnarvon. Plan is to build up Carnarvon and Exmouth and try and push supply overland to Port Hedland - not sure if that’s really feasible, but ships getting through to Port Hedland is foolhardy right now. US 41st IN Div arrives at Alice Springs and will begin marching to Tennant Creek - which may hold the base, but how its going to get supply is very questionable.
In the Philippines, surprisingly, the IJA did not attack, but just bombarded Bataan. My bet it was just a recon by fire to see what the defenses were remaining - with the forts reduced and pretty much zero supply for most units, its fall is inevitable. 2 subs arrive to offload, with one remaining sub enroute.
In China, many IJA attacks highlight the turn. This includes the usual bloodletting in the Sian area - but the IJA was bloodily repulsed midway between Sian and Lanchow - losing 2960 men to the Chinese 633. Of course south of Sian, the IJA suffers 586 to the Chinese 2673. The Chinese forces are being bled to death and supply is becoming increasing scarce. I don’t understand how the IJA is maintaining the supply to sustain this kind of operational tempo around Sian. Lastly, the IJA finally assaulted Wenchow - two heavy attacks with heavy loss totally over 4000 men to the Chinese losses of around 1500 - but fort level was reduced to level 1. Wenchow won’t last long….
In India/Burma, the Brits mine the hex off Akyab anticipating some IJN naval activity. Made the decision not to hold Akyab, but attempt an evac. To that, I pulled 3 C-47 squdrons out of Ledo and they will start transporting troops out, and the fast minelayer Abdiel will attempt to pull troops and equipment out. Jpn air hits the AF of course, and I’ll attempt a LRCAP over Akyab from Chittagong, but that won’t be able to be sustained - I just don’t have enough fighters. Lastly, the first elements of the Brit 18th Div begin offloading on the Indian mainland after convoying from Columbo. This division will deploy to hold Chittagong.
Highlights - the real highlight is simply getting a turn done while L_S_T is in the middle of a household move! For the turn, heavy IJA attacks in China including Wenchow with corresponding heavy losses to both sides.
Jpn ships sunk: None
Jpn ships unsunk:
DD: 1 (Asigiri)
Allied ships sunk:
AM: 1
xAK: 1
Air loss:
Jpn: 18
Allied: 20
Subwar:
Jpn: 0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Calayan (PI)
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: NSTR
West Coast/Admin. IJN sub spotted 240m SW of San Diego, will send ASW TF to try and hunt it down as another convoy forms up to depart LA.
In NOPAC. NSTR
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, US CV TFs begin refueling 360m SW of Suva and Luganville TF begins loitering just to the north. Will take another turn to refuel the CVs, then will see if we can move on Luganville - IF the KB’s location can be determined. Efate AF now at level 1 and F4Fs arrive. Tanna Invasion (1xUS Inf Bn) ready to depart Auckland as is a troop convoy with two army regiments bound for Sydney.
In SWPAC, Cooktown is bombarded by the IJN (2CA, 2DD) as the PTs were pulled to Townsville to rearm. Minor damage and the PTs will be back on station shortly. Allied air hits Normanton damaging the port and not encountering any opposition as troops assemble at Cloncurry to march north.
In WAUS, Port Hedland is crushed by a BB TF bombardment (2BB, 3CA, 3CL, 7DD) which shuts down the AF and port as well as sinks the offloading xAK and escorting AM. AF remains closed for the foreseeable future. With Allied CV TFs out of the area (Brit CVs heading to Cape Town, US CVs to SOPAC), taking some risk with a small convoy offloading at Carnarvon with supply. Another convoy, with BF engineers, departing Perth bound for Carnarvon. Plan is to build up Carnarvon and Exmouth and try and push supply overland to Port Hedland - not sure if that’s really feasible, but ships getting through to Port Hedland is foolhardy right now. US 41st IN Div arrives at Alice Springs and will begin marching to Tennant Creek - which may hold the base, but how its going to get supply is very questionable.
In the Philippines, surprisingly, the IJA did not attack, but just bombarded Bataan. My bet it was just a recon by fire to see what the defenses were remaining - with the forts reduced and pretty much zero supply for most units, its fall is inevitable. 2 subs arrive to offload, with one remaining sub enroute.
In China, many IJA attacks highlight the turn. This includes the usual bloodletting in the Sian area - but the IJA was bloodily repulsed midway between Sian and Lanchow - losing 2960 men to the Chinese 633. Of course south of Sian, the IJA suffers 586 to the Chinese 2673. The Chinese forces are being bled to death and supply is becoming increasing scarce. I don’t understand how the IJA is maintaining the supply to sustain this kind of operational tempo around Sian. Lastly, the IJA finally assaulted Wenchow - two heavy attacks with heavy loss totally over 4000 men to the Chinese losses of around 1500 - but fort level was reduced to level 1. Wenchow won’t last long….
In India/Burma, the Brits mine the hex off Akyab anticipating some IJN naval activity. Made the decision not to hold Akyab, but attempt an evac. To that, I pulled 3 C-47 squdrons out of Ledo and they will start transporting troops out, and the fast minelayer Abdiel will attempt to pull troops and equipment out. Jpn air hits the AF of course, and I’ll attempt a LRCAP over Akyab from Chittagong, but that won’t be able to be sustained - I just don’t have enough fighters. Lastly, the first elements of the Brit 18th Div begin offloading on the Indian mainland after convoying from Columbo. This division will deploy to hold Chittagong.
RE: 4-5 Jun 42
4-5 Jun 42
Highlights - IJN bombardments continue to bedevil the Allies; IJA armor exploits in China do as well.
Jpn ships sunk: None
Allied ships sunk:
CM:1
Air loss:
Jpn: 30
Allied: 26
Subwar:
Jpn: 0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
SS Tautog hits a mine off Port Hedland; critical damage (51/76/35)
Jpn Amph Inv:
Babuyan (PI)
Puerto Princesa (PI)
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Babuyan (PI)
Bhamo (PI)
Bases Liberated:
Ningsia (China)
SIGINT/Intel: NSTR
West Coast/Admin. NSTR
In NOPAC. US BB TF (2BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) departs DH to bombard Auttu.
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, US CV TFs conclude refueling 360m SW of Suva. Recon reports less troops at Luganville; assume L_S_T is pulling them out via patrol planes. With KB’s location still unknown, still hesitant for a full blown invasion of Luganville, or committing CVs north.
In SWPAC, Cooktown is bombarded by the IJN (2CA, 2DD) again, and although 4xPTs attack, either side presses the naval engagement. The two CAs do inflict some damage, and anticipate their return each turn as they appear to be running out of Moresby. Will continue to rely on the PTs to trip their schedule up.
In WAUS, Port Hedland again hit by a BB TF bombardment (2BB, 4CA, 3CL, 9DD) which keeps the AF and port shut down. I’m thinking the KB is providing distant support here, but haven’t been able to confirm it. Both Port Hedland and Carnarvon are mined by subs, with the Tautog finding mines the hard way at Port Hedland while coastal minesweepers earn their pay at Carnarvon. Darwin is bombarded by IJA troops, and its fall is imminent. Out of the Allied troops pulling back from Daly Waters, only a IN Bde, an AT unit and 3 engineers are likely to have pulled back to Allied lines. The better part of an Aus Div and support are likely lost. Goal now is to hold Tennant Creek.
In the Philippines, last sub arrives with supply at Bataan as the IJA only bombards.
In China, Wenchow is bombarded by sea (2BB, CA, 6DD), but ground forces don’t attack. Near Sian, the IJA continues to try and encircle troops withdrawing, and has managed to get armor into the Chinese rear - again! I have no counter these armored envelopments, and am continuing to try and pull back. If anyone has any answers to fighting in China, I’m all ears!
In India/Burma, the minelayer Abdiel lingers too long off Akyab and is quickly sunk by Nells. Air transport is the only way out as lead IJA elements enter the hex.
Highlights - IJN bombardments continue to bedevil the Allies; IJA armor exploits in China do as well.
Jpn ships sunk: None
Allied ships sunk:
CM:1
Air loss:
Jpn: 30
Allied: 26
Subwar:
Jpn: 0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
SS Tautog hits a mine off Port Hedland; critical damage (51/76/35)
Jpn Amph Inv:
Babuyan (PI)
Puerto Princesa (PI)
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Babuyan (PI)
Bhamo (PI)
Bases Liberated:
Ningsia (China)
SIGINT/Intel: NSTR
West Coast/Admin. NSTR
In NOPAC. US BB TF (2BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) departs DH to bombard Auttu.
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, US CV TFs conclude refueling 360m SW of Suva. Recon reports less troops at Luganville; assume L_S_T is pulling them out via patrol planes. With KB’s location still unknown, still hesitant for a full blown invasion of Luganville, or committing CVs north.
In SWPAC, Cooktown is bombarded by the IJN (2CA, 2DD) again, and although 4xPTs attack, either side presses the naval engagement. The two CAs do inflict some damage, and anticipate their return each turn as they appear to be running out of Moresby. Will continue to rely on the PTs to trip their schedule up.
In WAUS, Port Hedland again hit by a BB TF bombardment (2BB, 4CA, 3CL, 9DD) which keeps the AF and port shut down. I’m thinking the KB is providing distant support here, but haven’t been able to confirm it. Both Port Hedland and Carnarvon are mined by subs, with the Tautog finding mines the hard way at Port Hedland while coastal minesweepers earn their pay at Carnarvon. Darwin is bombarded by IJA troops, and its fall is imminent. Out of the Allied troops pulling back from Daly Waters, only a IN Bde, an AT unit and 3 engineers are likely to have pulled back to Allied lines. The better part of an Aus Div and support are likely lost. Goal now is to hold Tennant Creek.
In the Philippines, last sub arrives with supply at Bataan as the IJA only bombards.
In China, Wenchow is bombarded by sea (2BB, CA, 6DD), but ground forces don’t attack. Near Sian, the IJA continues to try and encircle troops withdrawing, and has managed to get armor into the Chinese rear - again! I have no counter these armored envelopments, and am continuing to try and pull back. If anyone has any answers to fighting in China, I’m all ears!
In India/Burma, the minelayer Abdiel lingers too long off Akyab and is quickly sunk by Nells. Air transport is the only way out as lead IJA elements enter the hex.
6-7 Jun 42
6-7 Jun 42
Highlights - Bataan finally falls; KB is identified off Normanton; Zero sweep at Cooktown met by P-39s.
Jpn ships sunk:
xAK: 1
Jpn ships unsunk:
BB: 1 (Fuso (again!))
CA: 1 (Furutaka)
DD: 1 (Suzakaze)
SS: 1 (I-169)
Allied ships sunk:
PT: 4
xAKL: 2
Air loss:
Jpn: 42
Allied: 43
Subwar:
Jpn: 3 Attacks, 2 ships hit (Two xAKLs sunk)
Allies: 3 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Jpn Amph Inv:
Hansa Bay (SWPAC)
Obi (DEI)
Ruteng (DEI)
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Bataan (PI)
Puerto Princesa (PI)
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: 21st Div planning to attack Port Hedland; KB sighted off Normanton
West Coast/Admin. Another Fast Convoy departs LA for Auckland.
In NOPAC. US BB TF (2BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) bombard Auttu and remain to bombard again.
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, with the KB (less Zuikaku, Shokaku and Zuiho) identified off Normanton, made the decision to grab Luganville which it’s garrison is currently being evac’d by air. CA TF (3CA, CL, 6DD, DMS) bombards Luganville and finds no troops remaining. CV TFs will support east of the New Hebrides, laying off Efate and Amph TF carrying 6th Marine Reg and engineers will begin moving north to land troops. Amph TF should land troops on 10 Jun. Tanna invasion will land on 8 Jun.
In SWPAC, Cooktown is bombarded by the IJN (2CA, 2DD) again, and 5xPTs intercept, getting mauled by the IJN, losing 4 PTs - any bet Tanaka is the admiral in charge now? The bombardment does little, and the Zero sweeps are met by a USMC F4F squadron and two P-39 squadrons - resulting in 25 Zeros lost in exchange for 10 P-39s and 7 Wildcats. Not too bad. These Zeros came from Moresby, and the KB provided LRCAP over Normanton area, which cost me 10 B-26s. Will keep a heavy CAP over Cooktown and see what L_S_T throws in next.
In WAUS, Port Hedland again hit by a BB TF bombardment (2BB, 2CA, 2CL, 7DD) which keeps the AF and port shut down. Perhaps Zuikaku and Shokaku are in support, but air search has come up with nothing. In any case, not much can be done to mitigate these bombardments, just hoping a sub gets lucky. If the 21st ID does land soon at Port Hedland, it will be met by a Bde+ and will likely be able to take the base due to these bombardments. Allied focus is pushing engineers and supplies into Carnarvon to establish it as a airbase. 5xBettys (unescorted) made an attack on shipping off Carnarvon and were shot down by Australian Kittyhawk CAP. On the Darwin front, the Imperial Guards Div bombards, and with only a reduced out of supply Bde defending, Darwin will fall at any time.
In the Philippines, Bataan falls in the first assault, with 25,000 US and Filipino troops going into the bag. Long expected, but still a bitter blow to Allied morale. This will release the IJA 14th Army (56th Div, 48th Div, 65th Bde and support) for other operations. The real question is whether the now released 14th Army will commit here in the Indian Ocean or Australia…my two most likely theaters.
In China, Wenchow is attacked and although the fort is reduced to zero, the IJA suffers heavy losses in squads destroyed - 43 In squads plus supporting troops in the 2500 troops lost. Near Sian, the IJA is still working to isolate the withdrawing defenders. Not looking good as the Chinese troops are withdrawing slowly over mountainous terrain. Lastly, I’ve finally decided to pull out the Chinese AF to India to reduce supply expenditure in training - first squadrons reach Delhi.
In India/Burma, a lone xAKL with supplies is sunk off Akyab. That’s the extent of surface forces bringing supply in - to much Jpn airpower avail. IJA forces advance to Akyab and Cox’s Bazaar - both likely to fall rather quickly. The fight will be for Chittagong.
Highlights - Bataan finally falls; KB is identified off Normanton; Zero sweep at Cooktown met by P-39s.
Jpn ships sunk:
xAK: 1
Jpn ships unsunk:
BB: 1 (Fuso (again!))
CA: 1 (Furutaka)
DD: 1 (Suzakaze)
SS: 1 (I-169)
Allied ships sunk:
PT: 4
xAKL: 2
Air loss:
Jpn: 42
Allied: 43
Subwar:
Jpn: 3 Attacks, 2 ships hit (Two xAKLs sunk)
Allies: 3 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Jpn Amph Inv:
Hansa Bay (SWPAC)
Obi (DEI)
Ruteng (DEI)
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Bataan (PI)
Puerto Princesa (PI)
Bases Liberated: None
SIGINT/Intel: 21st Div planning to attack Port Hedland; KB sighted off Normanton
West Coast/Admin. Another Fast Convoy departs LA for Auckland.
In NOPAC. US BB TF (2BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) bombard Auttu and remain to bombard again.
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, with the KB (less Zuikaku, Shokaku and Zuiho) identified off Normanton, made the decision to grab Luganville which it’s garrison is currently being evac’d by air. CA TF (3CA, CL, 6DD, DMS) bombards Luganville and finds no troops remaining. CV TFs will support east of the New Hebrides, laying off Efate and Amph TF carrying 6th Marine Reg and engineers will begin moving north to land troops. Amph TF should land troops on 10 Jun. Tanna invasion will land on 8 Jun.
In SWPAC, Cooktown is bombarded by the IJN (2CA, 2DD) again, and 5xPTs intercept, getting mauled by the IJN, losing 4 PTs - any bet Tanaka is the admiral in charge now? The bombardment does little, and the Zero sweeps are met by a USMC F4F squadron and two P-39 squadrons - resulting in 25 Zeros lost in exchange for 10 P-39s and 7 Wildcats. Not too bad. These Zeros came from Moresby, and the KB provided LRCAP over Normanton area, which cost me 10 B-26s. Will keep a heavy CAP over Cooktown and see what L_S_T throws in next.
In WAUS, Port Hedland again hit by a BB TF bombardment (2BB, 2CA, 2CL, 7DD) which keeps the AF and port shut down. Perhaps Zuikaku and Shokaku are in support, but air search has come up with nothing. In any case, not much can be done to mitigate these bombardments, just hoping a sub gets lucky. If the 21st ID does land soon at Port Hedland, it will be met by a Bde+ and will likely be able to take the base due to these bombardments. Allied focus is pushing engineers and supplies into Carnarvon to establish it as a airbase. 5xBettys (unescorted) made an attack on shipping off Carnarvon and were shot down by Australian Kittyhawk CAP. On the Darwin front, the Imperial Guards Div bombards, and with only a reduced out of supply Bde defending, Darwin will fall at any time.
In the Philippines, Bataan falls in the first assault, with 25,000 US and Filipino troops going into the bag. Long expected, but still a bitter blow to Allied morale. This will release the IJA 14th Army (56th Div, 48th Div, 65th Bde and support) for other operations. The real question is whether the now released 14th Army will commit here in the Indian Ocean or Australia…my two most likely theaters.
In China, Wenchow is attacked and although the fort is reduced to zero, the IJA suffers heavy losses in squads destroyed - 43 In squads plus supporting troops in the 2500 troops lost. Near Sian, the IJA is still working to isolate the withdrawing defenders. Not looking good as the Chinese troops are withdrawing slowly over mountainous terrain. Lastly, I’ve finally decided to pull out the Chinese AF to India to reduce supply expenditure in training - first squadrons reach Delhi.
In India/Burma, a lone xAKL with supplies is sunk off Akyab. That’s the extent of surface forces bringing supply in - to much Jpn airpower avail. IJA forces advance to Akyab and Cox’s Bazaar - both likely to fall rather quickly. The fight will be for Chittagong.
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RE: 6-7 Jun 42
Interesting that he is not using the KB to counter your invasions;
By now I don't know how much he can need it in Australia... unless he is planning something big there
By now I don't know how much he can need it in Australia... unless he is planning something big there
RE: 6-7 Jun 42
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
Interesting that he is not using the KB to counter your invasions;
By now I don't know how much he can need it in Australia... unless he is planning something big there
No idea. Can only guess at two possibilities....
1. Its a trap. Allow the Marines to land at Luganville and then counter invade. Don't think this is likely, as I don't see a big buildup in the Solomons either. Don't think L_S_T is defending forward.
2. Focus remains on Australia - specifically opening up another front in NE OZ. He has the ground combat power to take anything from Port Hedland to Brisbane if he really wants to - but until I see his BB surface fleet move off of pounding Port Hedland, I'm not going to get too worried.
8-9 Jun 42
8-9 Jun 42
Highlights - Both Akyab and Wenchow fall; KB hits Cooktown and takes heavy air loss; Luganville invaded.
Jpn ships sunk: None
Allied ships sunk: None
Air loss:
Jpn: 56
Allied: 19
Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 5 Attacks, 1 ship hit (PB dam)
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv:
Luganville (SOPAC)
Tanna (SOPAC)
Bases lost:
Akyab (Burma)
Cox’s Bazaar (India)
Buka (SWPAC)
Wenchow (China)
Ruteng (DEI)
Bases Liberated:
Tanna (SOPAC)
SIGINT/Intel: KB moves east into the Coral Sea
West Coast/Admin. CV Wasp arrives at LA from Balboa.
In NOPAC. US BB TF (2BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) bombard Attu again and then head towards DH.
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, troops are put ashore at both Tanna and Luganville without opposition. Efate AF at level 2. With the KB sighted moving east off Cooktown, Allied ships will depart Luganville before offloading all supply. CV TFs will also move south to a position SW of Suva.
In SWPAC, KB raids Cooktown (77Z,54K,45V) and is met by 41xP-39, 9F4F-3, and 15xKittyhawks which savage the IJN attack. Losses tally at 19Z, 16K, 11V in exchange for 4 P-39, 1 F4F and 7 Kittyhawks! Loving the P-39 so far! Best of all, only 2 Allied pilots were KIA. Cooktown is also bombarded (2CA,2DD) with no effect. In addition to the KB, a BB TF is also sighted which might do some more damage if they bombard. Strangely, it looks as though Normanton has been abandoned by the IJA - the Bde+ sized IJA force appears to be moving west towards the IJA forces NE of Tennant Creek. If it is true that Normanton is being abandoned, I think that would also rule out any major IJA landings on the NE coast of OZ. Will see where this goes…
In WAUS, no attack on Port Hedland for a change. With the many intel “hits” of the 21st Div planning to attack Port Hedland, I expect a landing shortly. However, the KB moving into the Coral Sea may mean this attack will happen overland from Broome instead? In any case, Darwin is again bombarded, but not attacked. It will fall in the first assault. Carnavon remains a busy port with engineers being offloaded.
In China, Wenchow falls in the second assault, two Chinese Corps surrendering when the dust settles. Pressure is still being maintained SW of Sian as IJA tank units attempt to encircle the withdrawing Chinese forces. Have I mentioned I hate China???
In India/Burma, Akyab and Coz’s Bazaar fall in the first assault. On the bright side, the defenders of Akyab withdraw “forward” into IJA lines in Burma - theoretically cutting the entire IJA at Akyab and Cox’s Bazaar supply. These Allied troops can be written off in the long run, but perhaps they can do some delay/harassment in the short term.
Highlights - Both Akyab and Wenchow fall; KB hits Cooktown and takes heavy air loss; Luganville invaded.
Jpn ships sunk: None
Allied ships sunk: None
Air loss:
Jpn: 56
Allied: 19
Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 5 Attacks, 1 ship hit (PB dam)
Jpn Amph Inv: None
Allied Amph Inv:
Luganville (SOPAC)
Tanna (SOPAC)
Bases lost:
Akyab (Burma)
Cox’s Bazaar (India)
Buka (SWPAC)
Wenchow (China)
Ruteng (DEI)
Bases Liberated:
Tanna (SOPAC)
SIGINT/Intel: KB moves east into the Coral Sea
West Coast/Admin. CV Wasp arrives at LA from Balboa.
In NOPAC. US BB TF (2BB, CL, 6DD, DMS) bombard Attu again and then head towards DH.
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, troops are put ashore at both Tanna and Luganville without opposition. Efate AF at level 2. With the KB sighted moving east off Cooktown, Allied ships will depart Luganville before offloading all supply. CV TFs will also move south to a position SW of Suva.
In SWPAC, KB raids Cooktown (77Z,54K,45V) and is met by 41xP-39, 9F4F-3, and 15xKittyhawks which savage the IJN attack. Losses tally at 19Z, 16K, 11V in exchange for 4 P-39, 1 F4F and 7 Kittyhawks! Loving the P-39 so far! Best of all, only 2 Allied pilots were KIA. Cooktown is also bombarded (2CA,2DD) with no effect. In addition to the KB, a BB TF is also sighted which might do some more damage if they bombard. Strangely, it looks as though Normanton has been abandoned by the IJA - the Bde+ sized IJA force appears to be moving west towards the IJA forces NE of Tennant Creek. If it is true that Normanton is being abandoned, I think that would also rule out any major IJA landings on the NE coast of OZ. Will see where this goes…
In WAUS, no attack on Port Hedland for a change. With the many intel “hits” of the 21st Div planning to attack Port Hedland, I expect a landing shortly. However, the KB moving into the Coral Sea may mean this attack will happen overland from Broome instead? In any case, Darwin is again bombarded, but not attacked. It will fall in the first assault. Carnavon remains a busy port with engineers being offloaded.
In China, Wenchow falls in the second assault, two Chinese Corps surrendering when the dust settles. Pressure is still being maintained SW of Sian as IJA tank units attempt to encircle the withdrawing Chinese forces. Have I mentioned I hate China???
In India/Burma, Akyab and Coz’s Bazaar fall in the first assault. On the bright side, the defenders of Akyab withdraw “forward” into IJA lines in Burma - theoretically cutting the entire IJA at Akyab and Cox’s Bazaar supply. These Allied troops can be written off in the long run, but perhaps they can do some delay/harassment in the short term.
RE: 8-9 Jun 42
That looks like a great result at Cooktown! Can you show the details re altitude for each side? I'm wondering what was your "magic bullet" for a little inspiration on my side because my CAP sure doesn't perform that well!
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RE: 8-9 Jun 42
ORIGINAL: jwolf
That looks like a great result at Cooktown! Can you show the details re altitude for each side? I'm wondering what was your "magic bullet" for a little inspiration on my side because my CAP sure doesn't perform that well!
I am not sure it is altitude as much as distance and other factors. If the Japanese player has to fly toward the limit of his range while the Allied player is at 0 range it makes it much easier for the defender to do well. At least IMO.
Which is why I dont delve into the tiny details of aircraft capabilities.
RE: 8-9 Jun 42
ORIGINAL: jwolf
That looks like a great result at Cooktown! Can you show the details re altitude for each side? I'm wondering what was your "magic bullet" for a little inspiration on my side because my CAP sure doesn't perform that well!
The combat report is below as requested.
Here's my take - but I'm no expert...
1. Raid was detected 114NM out - plenty of time for the CAP to get altitude and intercept.
2. CAP was stacked at 20,000 and 15,000 so I had the altitude advantage.
3. DBB-C game - P-39 seems to be doing much better than I remember in stock.
4. I had good pilots - but I assume this was a wash since it was the KB.
5. No sweeps, Zeros as escorts tied to their charges.
6. CAP was well rested and had good morale - assume this was also a wash.
7. Fight was over the Allied base, so many damaged IJN planes failed to make it back.
Afternoon Air attack on Cooktown , at 92,137
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 114 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 42 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 77
B5N2 Kate x 54
D3A1 Val x 45
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 15
P-39D Airacobra x 41
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 7 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
VMF-211 with F4F-3 Wildcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.75 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk IA (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
8th FG/35th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 5 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
8th FG/36th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
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RE: 8-9 Jun 42
Very nice results.
Point #5 likely the biggest contributor
IdahoNYer: interesting to hear that you are getting good results with the P-39; and at relatively high altitude
I am also playing DBB-C and I certainly don't like them, maybe it is random luck, but P-40 is my preferred 2nd place USA airframe (P-38 of course being the #1). In my game at least, when I have both P-39s and P-40s fighting Zeroes, the later do most of the killings and the former most of the dying.
Point #5 likely the biggest contributor
IdahoNYer: interesting to hear that you are getting good results with the P-39; and at relatively high altitude
I am also playing DBB-C and I certainly don't like them, maybe it is random luck, but P-40 is my preferred 2nd place USA airframe (P-38 of course being the #1). In my game at least, when I have both P-39s and P-40s fighting Zeroes, the later do most of the killings and the former most of the dying.
RE: 8-9 Jun 42
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
Very nice results.
Point #5 likely the biggest contributor
IdahoNYer: interesting to hear that you are getting good results with the P-39; and at relatively high altitude
I am also playing DBB-C and I certainly don't like them, maybe it is random luck, but P-40 is my preferred 2nd place USA airframe (P-38 of course being the #1). In my game at least, when I have both P-39s and P-40s fighting Zeroes, the later do most of the killings and the former most of the dying.
I've grown to love the P-39 in DBB-C. Absolutely hated it in stock. The Tracker comparison shows some significant advantages over the P-40E which really surprised me: Speed, climb, maneuver bands and durability
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RE: 8-9 Jun 42
Looks like it got nerfed - below is the data from the the National Museum - http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsh ... 478&page=1
P40E
TECHNICAL NOTES:
Armament: Six .50-cal. machine guns, 700 lbs. of bombs externally
Engine: Allison V-1710 of 1,150 hp
Maximum speed: 362 mph
Cruising speed: 235 mph
Range: 850 miles
Ceiling: 30,000 ft.
Span: 37 ft. 4 in.
Length: 31 ft. 9 in.
Height: 12 ft. 4 in.
Weight: 9,100 lbs. loaded
cruise and top speed greatly reduced...
P40E
TECHNICAL NOTES:
Armament: Six .50-cal. machine guns, 700 lbs. of bombs externally
Engine: Allison V-1710 of 1,150 hp
Maximum speed: 362 mph
Cruising speed: 235 mph
Range: 850 miles
Ceiling: 30,000 ft.
Span: 37 ft. 4 in.
Length: 31 ft. 9 in.
Height: 12 ft. 4 in.
Weight: 9,100 lbs. loaded
cruise and top speed greatly reduced...
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RE: 8-9 Jun 42
Although I had been aware of the better statistics; somehow I just have worst results with P-39s maybe worst pilots, but both P-40s and P-39s had gotten the same quality of pilots (good skill, low experience)
RE: 10-11 Jun 42
10-11 Jun 42
Highlights - Darwin falls; Normanton and Luganville liberated and Cooktown holds its own against heavy sweeps.
Jpn ships sunk:
CL: 1 (Jintsu off Carnavon)
Allied ships sunk:
PT: 1
AM: 2
xAKL: 2
Air loss:
Jpn: 60
Allied: 53
Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 4 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Dutch sub O-20 hits a mine off Batavia; Hv Dam.
Jpn Amph Inv:
Togian-eileanden (DEI)
Busuanga (DEI)
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Busuanga (DEI)
Darwin (WAUS)
Tanahdjampea (DEI)
Bases Liberated:
Luganville (SOPAC)
Normanton (SWPAC)
SIGINT/Intel: KB disappears, but heavy radio traffic in Rabaul leads me to think it is there to re-plane losses.
West Coast/Admin. CV Wasp TF (CV, CL, 4DD) departs LA for PH.
In NOPAC. NSTR
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, Luganville falls without opposition. US CVs will head to Auckland, along with all Amph TFs to replenish. CA TF will remain at Noumea. No enemy activity other than subs. Will focus on building up Efate and Luganville for a while.
In SWPAC, three Zero sweeps over Cooktown are met by CAP which does well - about 35Z downed in exchange for 9 P-39, , 3 P-400, 3 Kittyhawks and 4 F4Fs. The IJN bombardment (2BB, 2CA, 7DD) do better than the CA TFs, giving the base a good pasting despite level 4 forts. Port is closed, but AF remains operational. 6 fighters and 5 bombers are destroyed on the ground. With the continued heavy pressure on Cooktown, was very surprised to find Normanton empty and was taken by an Aussie recon squadron. So, not sure what exactly is going on here - without a position at Normanton, his ground forces that were there (Bde+) are moving slowly west - aren’t posing a great threat to the rear of the troops at Cooktown. Shuttling fighters in and out of Cooktown remains the focus as the first regiment of the 40th ID completes landing at Sydney and will move to Cairns. I’m also bringing the Portland Roads PT squadron to Cooktown to try and hold off another bombardment attempt - which, as usual, is the major nemesis of the Allied cause in Australia.
In WAUS, Darwin falls to the first assault. Not surprised here, I had written it off long ago. It held far longer than I expected. Still, the loss of troops I had pushed NW to hold the “back door” was a complete failure. A very expensive failure. Focus will be to hold Tennant Creek. On the Port Hedland front, a sizeable IJN Amph TF was spotted by sub (which attempted to attack) SW of Timor heading NW - good possibility of invasion of Port Hedland enroute. Can’t do much other than reposition some subs. Port Hedland held by a solid Aus Bde, but supply situation is poor. Carnarvon is visited by an IJN scouting force (CL, DD) which engages the CA TF (2CA, CL, 5DD) in which CL Jintsu is sunk and the DD dam. The cost was 2 DDs heavily damaged (heavy synch bug here - the combat I saw on the replay was quite different!) The transports are mostly offloaded, and with the CA TF, will depart for Perth. If that is an invasion of Port Hedland, I suspect it will have more than a small CA TF in escort….
In China, NSTR.
In India/Burma, shipping off Diamond Harbor is raided by Nells escorted heavily by Zeros. The CAP of P-36s and Mohawks do poorly (not surprised, right?), losing 12 fighters in exchange for 5 Zeros and 7 Nells lost in the raid (incl AA). Two xAKLs and AMs were lost to the Nells. Shouldn’t have had shipping around Diamond Harbor in the first place once Akyab fell. Fortunately there wasn’t much. Major problem here is I’m short fighters to cover both the Chittagong area and the Calcutta/Diamond Harbor area. Brit 18th Div finishes transshipping from Columbo to the port of Cochin and will begin rail movement to the Chittagong area.
Highlights - Darwin falls; Normanton and Luganville liberated and Cooktown holds its own against heavy sweeps.
Jpn ships sunk:
CL: 1 (Jintsu off Carnavon)
Allied ships sunk:
PT: 1
AM: 2
xAKL: 2
Air loss:
Jpn: 60
Allied: 53
Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit
Allies: 4 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Dutch sub O-20 hits a mine off Batavia; Hv Dam.
Jpn Amph Inv:
Togian-eileanden (DEI)
Busuanga (DEI)
Allied Amph Inv: None
Bases lost:
Busuanga (DEI)
Darwin (WAUS)
Tanahdjampea (DEI)
Bases Liberated:
Luganville (SOPAC)
Normanton (SWPAC)
SIGINT/Intel: KB disappears, but heavy radio traffic in Rabaul leads me to think it is there to re-plane losses.
West Coast/Admin. CV Wasp TF (CV, CL, 4DD) departs LA for PH.
In NOPAC. NSTR
CENPAC. NSTR
In SOPAC, Luganville falls without opposition. US CVs will head to Auckland, along with all Amph TFs to replenish. CA TF will remain at Noumea. No enemy activity other than subs. Will focus on building up Efate and Luganville for a while.
In SWPAC, three Zero sweeps over Cooktown are met by CAP which does well - about 35Z downed in exchange for 9 P-39, , 3 P-400, 3 Kittyhawks and 4 F4Fs. The IJN bombardment (2BB, 2CA, 7DD) do better than the CA TFs, giving the base a good pasting despite level 4 forts. Port is closed, but AF remains operational. 6 fighters and 5 bombers are destroyed on the ground. With the continued heavy pressure on Cooktown, was very surprised to find Normanton empty and was taken by an Aussie recon squadron. So, not sure what exactly is going on here - without a position at Normanton, his ground forces that were there (Bde+) are moving slowly west - aren’t posing a great threat to the rear of the troops at Cooktown. Shuttling fighters in and out of Cooktown remains the focus as the first regiment of the 40th ID completes landing at Sydney and will move to Cairns. I’m also bringing the Portland Roads PT squadron to Cooktown to try and hold off another bombardment attempt - which, as usual, is the major nemesis of the Allied cause in Australia.
In WAUS, Darwin falls to the first assault. Not surprised here, I had written it off long ago. It held far longer than I expected. Still, the loss of troops I had pushed NW to hold the “back door” was a complete failure. A very expensive failure. Focus will be to hold Tennant Creek. On the Port Hedland front, a sizeable IJN Amph TF was spotted by sub (which attempted to attack) SW of Timor heading NW - good possibility of invasion of Port Hedland enroute. Can’t do much other than reposition some subs. Port Hedland held by a solid Aus Bde, but supply situation is poor. Carnarvon is visited by an IJN scouting force (CL, DD) which engages the CA TF (2CA, CL, 5DD) in which CL Jintsu is sunk and the DD dam. The cost was 2 DDs heavily damaged (heavy synch bug here - the combat I saw on the replay was quite different!) The transports are mostly offloaded, and with the CA TF, will depart for Perth. If that is an invasion of Port Hedland, I suspect it will have more than a small CA TF in escort….
In China, NSTR.
In India/Burma, shipping off Diamond Harbor is raided by Nells escorted heavily by Zeros. The CAP of P-36s and Mohawks do poorly (not surprised, right?), losing 12 fighters in exchange for 5 Zeros and 7 Nells lost in the raid (incl AA). Two xAKLs and AMs were lost to the Nells. Shouldn’t have had shipping around Diamond Harbor in the first place once Akyab fell. Fortunately there wasn’t much. Major problem here is I’m short fighters to cover both the Chittagong area and the Calcutta/Diamond Harbor area. Brit 18th Div finishes transshipping from Columbo to the port of Cochin and will begin rail movement to the Chittagong area.
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RE: 10-11 Jun 42
Great news of Cooktown; it is unusual to get so good results against sweeping Zeroes. Maybe he is not using top notch pilots?
The closer the fight is to the rail line, the better it will be for you. In my game, I am having so many problems to keep supplied troops a few hexes north of the rail line... and this of course without fighting.
And you don't need to use Diamond Harbor at all having so many ports and the extensive rail network in India. Bombay, Cochin, even Karachi can be good alternatives
The closer the fight is to the rail line, the better it will be for you. In my game, I am having so many problems to keep supplied troops a few hexes north of the rail line... and this of course without fighting.
And you don't need to use Diamond Harbor at all having so many ports and the extensive rail network in India. Bombay, Cochin, even Karachi can be good alternatives
RE: 10-11 Jun 42
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
Great news of Cooktown; it is unusual to get so good results against sweeping Zeroes. Maybe he is not using top notch pilots?
I think its the 9 hex range from Moresby to Cooktown when the sweeps encounter heavy CAP - many damaged planes aren't making it back to base. That's just a guess of course...