Kane and Unable ;] - Game over 1945.

[Mike McCreery]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: Wargmr

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo



Sorry, his opponent is Mr. Kane. VERY capable. His planning is meticulous. I cannot tell from this perspective if he went for AV and missed.

If you doubt, go back and read other AAR's with Mr Kane. There are quite a few. He is a very good player.

MrKane got an AV in 1942 and again when I almost quit due to the P47 not making a difference. We agreed from the start of the game that AV would not end it.

Ah, so then you should assume he is ready to lose the DEI at this point. His economy should stand ... at least from a fuel/oil standpoint.

He lost 1/3 million tons of fuel at Soerbaja when I took the base. Other than that however, he should be ahead on fuel as I have not been interdicting Palembang. My focus has not been on preventing him from getting the oil/fuel, rather getting good positioning for 1945.

MrKane has not had many games go late so we shall see how he manages the economy.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Wargmr


He lost 1/3 million tons of fuel at Soerbaja when I took the base. Other than that however, he should be ahead on fuel as I have not been interdicting Palembang. My focus has not been on preventing him from getting the oil/fuel, rather getting good positioning for 1945.

MrKane has not had many games go late so we shall see how he manages the economy.

I doubt it will be oil/fuel. Supply is the Achilles heel for most IJ players these days....

[Mike McCreery]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: Wargmr


He lost 1/3 million tons of fuel at Soerbaja when I took the base. Other than that however, he should be ahead on fuel as I have not been interdicting Palembang. My focus has not been on preventing him from getting the oil/fuel, rather getting good positioning for 1945.

MrKane has not had many games go late so we shall see how he manages the economy.

I doubt it will be oil/fuel. Supply is the Achilles heel for most IJ players these days....

Doesnt converting oil into fuel create supply? I thought it made a difference in the industry somehow.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Wargmr

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: Wargmr


He lost 1/3 million tons of fuel at Soerbaja when I took the base. Other than that however, he should be ahead on fuel as I have not been interdicting Palembang. My focus has not been on preventing him from getting the oil/fuel, rather getting good positioning for 1945.

MrKane has not had many games go late so we shall see how he manages the economy.

I doubt it will be oil/fuel. Supply is the Achilles heel for most IJ players these days....

Doesnt converting oil into fuel create supply? I thought it made a difference in the industry somehow.

In stock games only, the conversion of oil creates 10% supply/90% fuel. In other mods the supply generation is removed.

[PaxMondo]

Yes. Oil -> Fuel -> Supply

My point though is that he will already have enough fuel/oil in the HI to last the duration. To run short, he has to not have taken Palembang. Aside from that, pretty hard to starve IJ for oil. Fuel, OTOH is about how active he is with the Kaigun, but that is also an easy fix: park it.

Not saying it can't happen, just saying I would not plan around it at all.

The way he will run out of supply is the same as running out of fuel: overuse. Overbuilding factories is the most common. Once out of supply, he fights with horrific maluses and he has no offensive air missions (CAP will fly). Game Over.

PS: I have to add that late game it is frightfully difficult to recover. Supply use increases steadily from 44 to 46, just the daily unit requirements and minimal air patrols will use almost all you generate. You have to have a large surplus to make it to 46. Once you run out after 6/44, you cannot recover, you can only function in spurts, and you have to starve a lot of units to achieve that. Meaning, IJ is even farther down the wrong side of the force equation ...

[Mike McCreery]

Whoops I did it again.....

I lost 454 dive and torpedo bombers to the same stupid shit as last time.

My fighters were set for 10% CAP on escort but they happened to have a target (cobato) so they just didnt fly to protect my bombers against a direct assault on MrKane.

I am so frustrated with myself, this never happened before in years of play. Having a target should not affect a fighter CAP mission.

On the flip side, I was toe to toe with MrKane for the next turn and I dodged into one of my bases and disbanded all my carrier groups while setting my surface groups on patrol with a range of 6. My larger groups decided not to play but several of my destroyer groups intercepted and sparred with his groups of battleships and cruisers. I managed to come out ahead by sinking another of his heavy cruisers - Atago making 8 total down and putting 2 torpedoes in the Yamashiro.

In the day phase several torpedo groups out of Coatabo found the Yamashiro and put another 5 torpedoes in her, putting her out of her misery.

On the flip side I lost quite a few desroyers and some destroyer escorts along with 2 light cruisers. Light cruisers and I do not mix.

[Mike McCreery]

Here is the Yamashiro taking the first of 2 torpedoes. 4 Allied destroyers were sunk in this confrontation.

The Fuso did lose it's radar to a 5" shell during the battle. I am not sure if that will require significant yard time or not.

[Mike McCreery]

Here is another one of the combats. MrKane is using some pretty unusual groupings ATM. This may just have been a shotgun to hopefully catch my carriers which were only 2 hexes away.

[Mike McCreery]

We were totally outmatched in this fight with the Houston II seriously wounded on the first shot. A 6" round managed to penetrate into one of the Atago's ammunition holds and gave us some sweet revenge.

[Mike McCreery]

We did manage to score a few hits here but 3" guns do not impress armored carriers. This group of destroyer escorts was shredded shortly after this battle.

[Mike McCreery]

Here is Ise and friends kicking the crap out of retreating destroyers.

[Mike McCreery]

After taking 2 torpedoes the Yamashiro cannot get far enough away from Coatabo.

[Mike McCreery]

Conquest of the Phillipines is going well with 1100AV moving up the peninsula.

[PaxMondo]

[BBfanboy]

In that first combat DD Tokitsukaze took 11 hits - usually fatal for an IJN DD. Did you manage to get any of his DDs to HF/HD level? Besides his CAs, loss of his DDs will really hurt him.

[Mike McCreery]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

In that first combat DD Tokitsukaze took 11 hits - usually fatal for an IJN DD. Did you manage to get any of his DDs to HF/HD level? Besides his CAs, loss of his DDs will really hurt him.

He lost 2 destroyers over the course of those battles. He has only lost 32 destroyers since the beginning of the war.

[Mike McCreery]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Our upcoming feature will be an invasion of the Kuriles!!

I already attempted to do this as a surprise but MrKane caught me. Need the allied death star for company. Hopefully my daring dash across the ocean to meet the convoy goes well.

[Bif1961]

6 CVs escorted by only 10 DDs seems a little.

[Mike McCreery]

One of MrKanes tank divisions and a few regiments are getting chewed up near Bangkok.

[Mike McCreery]

My invasion of the Kuriles has been spotted on both fronts this turn. Will be interesting to see what MrKane does to try to interdict my forces.

Very heavy detection levels with my CAP killing planes for the amphib forces. Am wondering if he has some CVE/CVL's doing search duty.