The Cautionaries: jwilkerson vs Capt(re-started)

[Rysyonok]

Sunk ships (10/25/1922)

IJN / USN losses:

Carriers:

None.

Dreadnoughts - 16":

Nagato, Tosa

Dreadnoughts - 14":

Ise / California, Nevada, Tennessee

Dreadnoughts - 12":

None.

Battlecruisers - 14":

Kongo, Kirishima

Pre-dreadnought battleships:

Georgia, Illinois, Monandock, Oregon, Rhode Island

Heavy cruisers:

Ikoma, Yakumo

Light cruisers:

Chikuma, Kiso, Kitakami, Niitaka, Tama

Destroyers / torpedo boats:

Thirty-two (+4 since 10/1/1922) / Seventy-five (+46(!!!) since 10/1/1922)

Transports:

Eighteen (+1 since 10/1/1922) / Thirty-two (+12 since 10/1/1922)

Tankers / colliers:

A tanker / A collier and two tankers

Submarines:

No. 46, UC-90 (O4) / S-2, S-7, R-9, R-10, R-17

Minelayers:

Five / One and five minelaying destroyers

Minesweepers:

Thirty-three (+22(!!!) since 10/1/1922)

Other auxiliaries:

A destroyer tender, five patrol craft, twelve gunboats

[Rysyonok]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/22

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ASW attack at 79,78

Japanese Ships
PC Ch08
PC Ch07
PC Ch06
PC Ch05

Allied Ships
SS S-4

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ASW attack near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
PC Ch04
PC Ch03
PC Ch02
PC Ch01
DD Kusunoki
DD Kiri
DD Kaede
DD Kashiwa
DD Matsu
DD Kaba
DD Tachibana
DD Sakura

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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ASW attack at 79,78

Japanese Ships
PC Ch08
PC Ch07
PC Ch06
PC Ch05

Allied Ships
SS S-4

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Sub attack at 79,78

Japanese Ships
TK San Diego Maru, Torpedo hits 1

Allied Ships
SS S-4

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Sub attack near Eniwetok at 76,74

Japanese Ships
DD Nashi
DD Sakaki
DD Umi
DD Nire
DD Kaya
DD Momi

Allied Ships
SS S-34

[jwilkerson]

Sunk ships (10/25/1922)

Well except for the 5:3 dreadnought ratio .. this looks good ... I think you have total of 12 dreadnoughts in the scenario ... with 5 gone ... that leaves 7 ( once the last one arrives, in Dec 22 IIRC ) but against his roughly 20-3=17 ... that means you've essentially lost the ability to fight a main fleet action. But that is perhaps not as bad as it sounds. A lot can be accomplished picking on the non-dreadnought TFs. But you need good intel ... that is one of the aspects of WPO that is so different from WITP .. it is hard to achieve surprise in enemy waters in WITP and impossible to sustain it. But in WPO .. the lack of airplaces (especially in the 1922 scenarios ) makes it possible to be within 1-2 hexes of a major enemy base and not be spotted ! Fortunately you don't have to fight in enemy waters - he does - so that is your advantage - and you need to leverage that as much as possible !

[Rysyonok]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

Sunk ships (10/25/1922)

Well except for the 5:3 dreadnought ratio .. this looks good ... I think you have total of 12 dreadnoughts in the scenario ... with 5 gone ... that leaves 7 ( once the last one arrives, in Dec 22 IIRC ) but against his roughly 20-3=17 ... that means you've essentially lost the ability to fight a main fleet action. But that is perhaps not as bad as it sounds. A lot can be accomplished picking on the non-dreadnought TFs. But you need good intel ... that is one of the aspects of WPO that is so different from WITP .. it is hard to achieve surprise in enemy waters in WITP and impossible to sustain it. But in WPO .. the lack of airplaces (especially in the 1922 scenarios ) makes it possible to be within 1-2 hexes of a major enemy base and not be spotted ! Fortunately you don't have to fight in enemy waters - he does - so that is your advantage - and you need to leverage that as much as possible !

True, I don't think there is going to be anything spectacular happening above water for a while now. Fuso and Mutsu are maimed. Half the Marshalls destroyers need refits. And still I think it was worth it - look at USN destroyer losses!

And minefields are my intel All I need to do is subtract the number of destroyers that identify themselves from the suggested TF size...

[Rysyonok]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/27/22

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TF 1065 encounters mine field at Maloelap (82,81)

Allied Ships
AK Steel Engineer, Mine hits 1
DD Sloat


Allied ground losses:
3 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 76,76

Japanese Ships
TK San Diego Maru, Torpedo hits 1 Two fish - and all it gets is 12/25/0? Wow.

Allied Ships
SS S-8

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ASW attack at 100,76

Japanese Ships
SS No. 36

Allied Ships
DD Elliot

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Sub attack at 100,76

Japanese Ships
SS No. 36

Allied Ships
AK Coast Trader
DD Elliot Sub contacts are switching from due west from Johnston (retreating Eniwetok forces) to due south-west from Johnston (new Mili/Majuro/Maloelap forces?)

[Rysyonok]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/28/22

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ASW attack at 81,80

Japanese Ships
BB Kashima

Allied Ships
SS H-2

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ASW attack at 83,81

Japanese Ships
SS No. 13, hits 1

Allied Ships
AK Birminghan City
DD Yarborough
DD Thompson

[jwilkerson]

And minefields are my intel

Yup these are the new "recon" type mines with sophisticated ship identification sensors and embedded long range transmitters !!!
[:D][;)]

[Rysyonok]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

And minefields are my intel

Yup these are the new "recon" type mines with sophisticated ship identification sensors and embedded long range transmitters !!!
[:D][;)]

Makes me want to remove all ship names from the game. They can retain those in "ship class" field - visible to owner, invisible to opponent.

"An old-looking battleship is firing something big and bulky at a destroyer. Belt penetration! Something weird-looking is destroyed!"

[Rysyonok]

Mili raid went sour. Not only USN patrol planes transferred to Maloelap minutes before shells hit the runway, three capital ships were damaged.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/29/22

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TF 38 encounters mine field at Mili (84,85)

Japanese Ships
CA Iwate, Mine hits 1

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TF 1097 encounters mine field at Mili (84,85)

Allied Ships
DD Nicholas

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Sub attack at 85,72

Japanese Ships
SS No. 35

Allied Ships
AK Castor, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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Sub attack at 100,76

Japanese Ships
SS No. 36

Allied Ships
DD Swasey
DD Evans

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Mili at 84,85

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BC Hiei
BC Haruna, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Ibuki, Shell hits 1
CA Kasuga, Shell hits 1
CA Nisshin
CA Adzuma
CA Iwate

Allied Ships
DD Nicholas, Shell hits 32, and is sunk
ML San Francisco, Shell hits 15, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Mili, at 84,85

Japanese Ships
CA Adzuma
CA Nisshin
CA Kasuga
CA Ibuki
BC Hiei
BB Yamashiro


Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

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TF 1056 encounters mine field at Maloelap (82,81)

Allied Ships
DD Thompson

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ASW attack at 99,77

Japanese Ships
SS UC-99 (O5)

Allied Ships
DD Woodbury
DD William Jones
DD S. P. Lee
DD Shirk
DD Percival
DD Laub

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Sub attack at 99,77

Japanese Ships
SS UC-99 (O5)

Allied Ships
BB Delaware
DD Woodbury
DD William Jones
DD S. P. Lee
DD Shirk
DD Percival
DD Laub

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ASW attack at 99,77

Japanese Ships
SS UC-99 (O5), hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Woodbury
DD William Jones
DD S. P. Lee
DD Shirk
DD Percival
DD Laub

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Sub attack near Mili at 84,85

Japanese Ships
BB Satsuma, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS H-4

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ASW attack at 99,74

Japanese Ships
SS No. 57

Allied Ships
DD Fox
DD Noa
DD Selfridge
DD Robert Smith
DD Farragut
DD Melvin
DD Truxton
DD Pillsbury

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Naval bombardment of Mili, at 84,85

Japanese Ships
BB Suwo
BB Fuji
BB Asahi
BB Shikishima
BB Iwami
BB Hizen
BB Mikasa
BB Katori
BB Kashima
BB Satsuma, on fire, heavy damage
BB Aki
BB Settsu


Allied ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 4

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Naval bombardment of Mili, at 84,85

Japanese Ships
CA Adzuma
CA Nisshin
CA Kasuga
CA Ibuki
BC Hiei
BB Yamashiro


Allied ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

[Rysyonok]

Two USN ships sink in the night: DD and MSW.

Satsuma is not looking good, 75flt, 2 days away from Jaluit at present speed.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/30/22

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Sub attack at 84,84

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Torpedo hits 1

Allied Ships
SS H-5

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Sub attack at 82,83

Japanese Ships
CA Kasuga

Allied Ships
SS R-22

[jwilkerson]

If the scuttle button is lite up - you're in trouble !

[Rysyonok]

...it lights up?

[jwilkerson]

It gets de-gray-a-fyed anyway ...

[Rysyonok]

Thanks =)

[Rysyonok]

Very close call on Satsuma - 92flt but already disbanded at Jaluit. And yes, scuttle option is lit up

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/31/22

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ASW attack at 99,74

Japanese Ships
SS No. 57

Allied Ships
DD Young
DD Yarnall

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Sub attack at 82,84

Japanese Ships
BB Satsuma, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS R-22

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ASW attack at 99,77

Japanese Ships
SS UC-99 (O5)

Allied Ships
DD Swasey
DD Evans

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Sub attack near Mili at 84,85

Japanese Ships
SS No. 41

Allied Ships
AK Kainalu
DD Somers
DD Mugford

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Sub attack at 79,78

Japanese Ships
AK Boko Maru, Shell hits 5

Allied Ships
SS R-24

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Sub attack at 99,77

Japanese Ships
SS UC-99 (O5)

Allied Ships
DD Swasey
DD Evans

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Sub attack near Maloelap at 82,81

Japanese Ships
SS No. 16

Allied Ships
AK Atlanta City

[Rysyonok]

Quiet days. Forces get shuffled in PI, subs hunted all over Marshalls. 9kg bomb from a B-type blimp sends IJN SS No. 8 down to 31/52/0 - ouch!

IJN is pulling out to Saipan, leaving ASW and subs behind.

[Rysyonok]

In a surprise maneuver, USN pulls all of its submarines out of Marshalls.

IJN will use this to reinforce Eniwetok with some troops, supplies, and fuel, and quite possibly to pull back all above-surface ships, most of which are already at Saipan.

A flanking maneuver is predicted; therefore many smaller islands closer to Japan are being reinforced.

Marcus island will be used as a sub base, with submarines scouting all over CenPac.

[Rysyonok]

USN subs are back across the whole front; nothing near Home islands, but heavy presence in CENPAC.

1st Independent Brigade is being unloaded at Eniwetok to wipe out Americans.

IJN Satsuma still in danger at Jaluit, 45/81 after several days in stasis at 48/75.

Vast majority of IJN concentrated at Saipan.

[jwilkerson]

I forget, does he have any viable base in the Marshalls ?

[Rysyonok]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

I forget, does he have any viable base in the Marshalls ?

Maloelap and Mili. Infantry (actually cavalry to be precise), Curtiss H-16s and B-type blimps.