Wild Sheep Chase - obvert (J) vs JocMeister (A)

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[font="Times New Roman"]17 - 18 March 1945[/font]
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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]STRAT BOMBING:[/font] Both Canton and Shanghai get the treatment. HI is the target, and in spite of NF present, almost all is knocked out for maybe 4-5 B-29 losses. On the night we lose 16 NF.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Troops are getting hit near Paoshan almost daily by what looks like 300+ 4Es. I guess he's committed to this area breaking through. It might, after long enough, but these planes are pretty valuable to use in this role at this pint in game. I think there is a focus on China now, which is probably good for the Japanese.

At Nanning troops are beginning to recover in spite of losses to continuing air strikes from the other big group of 4Es. Some of the reserves that were at Liuchow and Kukong are railing toward Kweiyang as the Chinese advance. Moving those troops up could be a feint, but I kind of have to imagine it's real. Would the Allies be so concentrated on ruining the troops in the mountains though if they were confident in the ability of the Chinese to push through?

If the Chinese in fact somehow have supply the 2.5k AV of IJA at Kweiyang could be crushed. If not the Chinese could cross the river and lose a chuck of troops. Or, they could threaten to move continually while other stuff happens to the East.

My reserve in China is three divisions that are in transport now. I also have a few building up strength along the NE coast after arriving recently. There are another 1k AV of brigades at Shanghai. I've decided to dispatch a few more of these to the center to make sure bases like Kukong, Liuchow and Kweilin have a presence of troops that might hold off a small assault, or to stop a move cross country somewhere until other troops could get in range. The Allies have enough to break through almost any spot in China given time, but time is what they don't want to take, I'm sure.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]HOME ISLANDS: [/font] The Allied fleet has moved up again to around Okinawa. I stop all bombing of Naha. This prompts the opening of the fields and the appearance of 350+ fighters. It's still a bit out on a limb there, so I might look to bombard. We'll see what opportunities arise. Only fast BB/CA will be used for now to ensure a quick getaway. I'll move to the front of Formosa to give a look, anyway. It's interesting, this cat and mouse.

Big supply moved out throwing several cities on the HI into the red! Bad. Have to do it though.

Accidentally left one TF with retreat to base orders and it moved right into the path of the oncoming Allied CVs. Lost some great ships. For nothing. Yuck. I'm just not as good at being careful in this part of the game. It really is tough when there is no real agency to the moves Japan is able to make. Everything ends up seeming futile, so turns are done quickly and much less thoroughly than before. I'm also partially influenced by my opponent's need to finish the game before the baby comes. I really only have time for one thorough turn a day, but we've been doing two. Usually one good one and one not so good from me. I don't like playing this way, but I respect his desire to get it done soon, and I don't want to just roll over, so this is the compromise. I'm sure he's not complaining when a fat TF rolls into his search zone though! [;)]

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 17, 45
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Amami Oshima at 95,61

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 116
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 37
TBM-3 Avenger x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-3 Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AMC Bankok Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
AK Asaka Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
AV Sanyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Goyo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
AK Kirishima Maru, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage

AV Kimikawa Maru
AK Amagisan Maru, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Awazisan Maru, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Kyushu Maru, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Yamasimo Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
E W-24, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
E Etoforu, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

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Ground combat at Nago (95,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 90420 troops, 1754 guns, 1498 vehicles, Assault Value = 4038

Defending force 18755 troops, 443 guns, 128 vehicles, Assault Value = 290

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 1604

Japanese adjusted defense: 814

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3876 casualties reported
Squads: 83 destroyed, 156 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 89 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 40 disabled
Guns lost 93 (22 destroyed, 71 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (2 destroyed, 14 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1467 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 238 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 45 (2 destroyed, 43 disabled)


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 18, 45
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Night Air attack on Canton , at 77,59

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 13

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 59

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak


Heavy Industry hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Shanghai , at 92,55

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 21
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-S Irving: 4 destroyed
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Reinforcements: Soon a whole slew of training units arrive, but if they are like the usual ones I have so far, they are only training and can't be used to strike or fly CAP. This could be a problem. At the same time I lose about 4-5 fighter groups.

At this point all groups previously training are being upgraded to combat units, and only the training groups are going to be training. Sam pools are therefore going to run low for a bit, as will Frank 'r' pools.

[font="Trebuchet MS"]98th Sentai arrives at Shimonoseki
43rd Recon Regiment arrives at Tokyo
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment arrives at Tokyo
11th Mortar Battalion arrives at Tokyo
ML G-487 arrives at Shimizu
ML G-488 arrives at Nagoya
107th Sentai arrives at Hiroshima/Kure
52nd Naval Guard Unit arrives at Tokyo
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Losses:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]Loss of E Etoforu on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of E Hiburi on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of E W-24 on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AV Kimikawa Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Kyushu Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Asaka Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Awazisan Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Amagisan Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Yamasimo Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Kirishima Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AK Goyo Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AV Sanyo Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of AMC Bankok Maru on Mar 17, 1945 is admitted
Loss of ACM Tatibana Maru on Dec 23, 1944 is admitted
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Ships Sunk:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]DD Claxton is reported to have been sunk near Manila on Jan 22, 1945
AK Pavo is reported to have been sunk near Milne Bay on Oct 03, 1944
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]It's a bit nostalgic now losing ships like these. They'e been such a big part of how I chose to play the game, and now they're quickly disappearing. About three more of the big AVs are awaiting eventual destruction at Singers. I contemplated sending them raining in the deep Indian Ocean for fun. The Jake units used to be good against merchants, but now they just fall to flak quickly. [/font]
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Soon a whole slew of training units arrive, but if they are like the usual ones I have so far, they are only training and can't be used to strike or fly CAP. This could be a problem. At the same time I lose about 4-5 fighter groups. At this point all groups previously training are being upgraded to combat units, and only the training groups are going to be training.

I wonder if it's worth moving these training groups forward to bases that might draw attention away from more vital targets? If Jocke sees a large number of aircraft at a base maybe the urge to hit it will be too tempting.

I hope Jocke's game with me isn't taking away from the time you too have allotted to this one? Is Jocke's reasoning to rush your game because two games and two babies will be too much? I'd rather you two finish this game and use the time you need to complete turns properly. I'll let Jocke know he should make sure you two finish and our game should be lower priority. I think it is already though. [:D]
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Also, about the CAP, training units will engage in combat if enemy units attack nearby. I think it is a die roll, the manual says something about it. I've had it happen in my games - air attacks on Victoria Point saw training planes from Bangkok join the fray at one time.

There might be a tactic of lots of crap planes and pilots getting in the way of some bombers, or at least disrupting their flight a bit.
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Soon a whole slew of training units arrive, but if they are like the usual ones I have so far, they are only training and can't be used to strike or fly CAP. This could be a problem. At the same time I lose about 4-5 fighter groups. At this point all groups previously training are being upgraded to combat units, and only the training groups are going to be training.

I wonder if it's worth moving these training groups forward to bases that might draw attention away from more vital targets? If Jocke sees a large number of aircraft at a base maybe the urge to hit it will be too tempting.

I hope Jocke's game with me isn't taking away from the time you too have allotted to this one? Is Jocke's reasoning to rush your game because two games and two babies will be too much? I'd rather you two finish this game and use the time you need to complete turns properly. I'll let Jocke know he should make sure you two finish and our game should be lower priority. I think it is already though. [:D]

It's not the two games, it's the turns vs days to finish ours that are the issue. At 2 a day for the next 3 months, that's 6 months in game, or up to August. We'll likely miss a week or so at Christmas. Another in February, due to travel. Every week something comes up where we have a few days with only 1 turn. So it might be more like 1.5 a day, which puts us very close to baby time. Only 4.5 months i name, or mid-June in 3 months.

I think baby is due in April? So we'd then by stuck if by some amazing turn of luck the Japanese side didn't collapse by historical time frame. I simply can't do any more turns than I'm already doing, and Jocke's weekly schedule only has certain windows for turns as well.

As for the training units I don't know if that would be a good thing. They are 10 planes each, and there are like 30 of them, so it doesn't even add up to so many actual airframes. Just a lot of pilots trained.

What is strange is losing something like 250-300 fighters in withdrawals (plus some bomber groups) in the next few months??? What is that about? Sure my area is quickly collapsing, but that does' mean I can't fly a bunch of planes over the HI. I haven't had time to organize this stuff in a while, but I'll know more soon and report on what it means.
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ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

Also, about the CAP, training units will engage in combat if enemy units attack nearby. I think it is a die roll, the manual says something about it. I've had it happen in my games - air attacks on Victoria Point saw training planes from Bangkok join the fray at one time.

There might be a tactic of lots of crap planes and pilots getting in the way of some bombers, or at least disrupting their flight a bit.

Yes, it definitely happens, and this is also a worry. I will just bleed crap planes and crap pilots while they try to engage P-47N groups with 80 exp pilots!!! Or several hundred B-24s!

Not sure I need that in the HI, but maybe I'll be proven wrong.
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I'd forgotten about the training units sometimes reacting as CAP. What if you set them to sweep rather than escort? If the units are that small it won't make a blip anyway as you mentioned. It was just an idea to make them draw fire somehow while taking some heat off your main defence.
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I'd forgotten about the training units sometimes reacting as CAP. What if you set them to sweep rather than escort? If the units are that small it won't make a blip anyway as you mentioned. It was just an idea to make them draw fire somehow while taking some heat off your main defence.

I never thought to set them at sweep. Might work well to keep them out of combat as they'll be A6M2, Nates and Oscar Ic mostly.

I guess they could offer deceptive protection for various bases in the back lines as well, making it seem there are fighters to protect against non-escorted raids.
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[font="Times New Roman"]19 - 20 March 1945[/font]
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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] A lot moving toward the area near Formosa now. One hits the DD Michishio, sinking it. We also sink the Boarfish.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]STRAT BOMBING:[/font] The Allies got for Shanghai and Canton, only losing a few planes.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The troops in the mountains and the troops at Nanning are still getting the business from the Allied 4Es. Both are hanging in here. At least the AA fought back and got 4-5 4E today. I'll be interested to see if the Allies try either river crossing soon. It looks like some troops at least are moving around along the coast in the East. I'll need to shore up the inner defenses and provide some potential blocks to the West of the Canton/Hong Kong area.

The Chinese have reached one hex from Kweiyang. Another potential river crossing. Chinese troops don't usually do to well with these into heavy fortifications. The base has level 6 forts in a +2 territory. Also there has been no bombing here, so that makes me think this is mostly a feint. Of course if the bombing starts I'd only have a few days to cover, so I'll have to leave some troops here for now. At least until the surprise I'm cooking up goes forward. [;)]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]HOME ISLANDS: [/font] A bombardment force went in to Naha on the 20th, and made it as the Allies had vacated the area. It put a decent hit on the fields but no fighters remained at the base. Only 1 Cat destroyed. Also sunk a few PTs.

This will be interesting moving forward. Will this make the Allies jumpy about BB appearing in range?

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Morning Air attack on 15th Division, at 72,55 (Nanning)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 13
B-24J Liberator x 154
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25H Mitchell x 65
B-25J1 Mitchell x 38
B-25J11 Mitchell x 42
P-38J Lightning x 36
P-38L Lightning x 57
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 3
PB4Y-2 Privateer x 3
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 14
PV-1 Ventura x 3

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 12 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25J1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-25J11 Mitchell: 1 damaged
PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged
PBJ-1D Mitchell: 1 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
558 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 21 (2 destroyed, 19 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
14 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 20, 45
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Tachibana
DD Tsuta
DD Kaki

Allied Ships
PT-577
PT-578
PT-579
PT-580
PT-581
PT-582
PT-583
PT-584
PT-585, Shell hits 1
PT-586, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-587, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-588, Shell hits 2, and is sunk


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards

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Sub attack near Naha at 95,66

Japanese Ships
CA Nachi
BB Kirishima
CA Mikuma
CA Maya
DD Shigure
DD Yamakaze
DD Yudachi

Allied Ships
SS Boarfish, hits 29, and is sunk

SS Boarfish launches 4 torpedoes at CA Nachi
Boarfish bottoming out ....
SS Boarfish forced to surface!
DD Yudachi firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

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Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 2 damaged
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground

14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
CA Mikuma
CA Nachi
CA Maya
DD Yamakaze
DD Yudachi
DD Shigure
DD Shimakaze

Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 37 (11 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Vehicles lost 35 (18 destroyed, 17 disabled)


Manpower hits 1
Repair Shipyard hits 1
Fires 131
Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 41
Port hits 10
Port supply hits 1

E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for BB Kirishima

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Naha at 95,66, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kiri
DD Sugi
DD Kaya
DD Kaede

Allied Ships
PT-577, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-578
PT-579
PT-580, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-581
PT-582
PT-583
PT-584, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT-585, Shell hits 2, on fire


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 20,000 yards

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ASW attack near Kume-jima at 93,65

Japanese Ships
DD Michishio, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Sakawa
CL Yahagi
CL Agano
CL Oyodo
DD Arare
DD Maikaze

Allied Ships
SS Lamprey

SS Lamprey launches 2 torpedoes at DD Michishio
Lamprey diving deep ....

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Reinforcements:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]29th Shinbu-tai arrives at Palembang
30th Shinbu-tai arrives at Tokyo
93rd Shinbu-tai arrives at Osaka/Kyoto
41st Army arrives at Tokyo
E Shiga arrives at Tokyo
901 Ku T-2 arrives at Kobe
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment arrives at Tokyo
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Losses:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]Loss of DD Michishio on Mar 20, 1945 is admitted[/font]

Ships Sunk:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]Previous report of sinking of SS Hawkbill incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
SS Boarfish is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 20, 1945
PT-577 is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 20, 1945
PT-580 is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 20, 1945
PT-584 is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 20, 1945
PT-586 is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 20, 1945
PT-587 is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 20, 1945
PT-588 is reported to have been sunk near Naha on Mar 20, 1945
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]The little dot near Kweiyang? Pretty innocuous right? Well, it's almost a million Chinese troops!

However, there is a call IJA force moving behind them. I don't think they've been reconed and they'll move behind the Chinese in three days. There are only 3 units and ~10k troops at Chungking according to overflights. Do we dare the impossible and cross to try to capture the city? [:D]

A massive load of 50k supply just landed, so hopefully that will fix some red and yellow flagged situations around the area.
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A massive load of 50k supply just landed, so hopefully that will fix some red and yellow flagged situations around the area.

I will be observing how supply washes in and fills gaps. In my limited experience, about 20K supply stays at the port of origin .. no matter how much the supply the port is set for ..

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A massive load of 50k supply just landed, so hopefully that will fix some red and yellow flagged situations around the area.

I will be observing how supply washes in and fills gaps. In my limited experience, about 20K supply stays at the port of origin .. no matter how much the supply the port is set for ..


Notice the port being used here. Spot the TF.

Dropping supply at Shanghai earlier in game would send it shooting up to the farthest reaches of China in a few turns. Now, well, it won't be so easy. 20k supply hasn't stayed at Shanghai as it already had 20k and is at around 22k after the first drop off. The second is somewhat upstream and should get to needy bases more quickly.
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Even if they pounce on unescorted bombers and get shot down, most of those pilot survive and the planes are second rate anyway, so no big loss. More importantly, I have noticed that it is a good way to crank up their XP fast. In my game (early) I have some old Oscar A models defending against small groups of B-17's. They never shoot down any, but man, the experience of those pilots has skyrocketed. And even though some of the fighters get destroyed I don't seem to be losing any of the pilots.
ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

I'd forgotten about the training units sometimes reacting as CAP. What if you set them to sweep rather than escort? If the units are that small it won't make a blip anyway as you mentioned. It was just an idea to make them draw fire somehow while taking some heat off your main defence.

I never thought to set them at sweep. Might work well to keep them out of combat as they'll be A6M2, Nates and Oscar Ic mostly.

I guess they could offer deceptive protection for various bases in the back lines as well, making it seem there are fighters to protect against non-escorted raids.
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ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

I'd forgotten about the training units sometimes reacting as CAP. What if you set them to sweep rather than escort? If the units are that small it won't make a blip anyway as you mentioned. It was just an idea to make them draw fire somehow while taking some heat off your main defence.

I never thought to set them at sweep. Might work well to keep them out of combat as they'll be A6M2, Nates and Oscar Ic mostly.

I guess they could offer deceptive protection for various bases in the back lines as well, making it seem there are fighters to protect against non-escorted raids.
ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg

Even if they pounce on unescorted bombers and get shot down, most of those pilot survive and the planes are second rate anyway, so no big loss. More importantly, I have noticed that it is a good way to crank up their XP fast. In my game (early) I have some old Oscar A models defending against small groups of B-17's. They never shoot down any, but man, the experience of those pilots has skyrocketed. And even though some of the fighters get destroyed I don't seem to be losing any of the pilots.

Against B-24s this will work differently. Even with very good pilots and airframes I lose a ton trying to ward off 300+ 4E strikes. Often more than 1:1 even when they're unescorted. That's with Franks and Jacks. Using '42 planes with no armor it would be a bloodbath and not may pilots would make it. When you see the first 4E raids coming with B-24 and you don't have the George or Jack yet it'll be clear how difficult it is with only Oscars and Zeros. They're too fragile. Durability and big guns is the key to hitting 4Es. (Plus numbers).
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Got it - thanks for the info! I'll make sure I'm planning accordingly in my own game. :)
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Got it - thanks for the info! I'll make sure I'm planning accordingly in my own game. :)

Of course it all depends on how your opponent uses 4Es. If they don't mass them every turn then yes, these small training groups could have an effect, especially because it's been shown that they can avoid sweeps and just then go for the bombers.
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[font="Times New Roman"]21 - 22 March 1945[/font]
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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Looks like the Allied subs are moving in toward Naha, probably to ward off any more attempts at bombardments and to be near to shield any further Allied moves.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]DEI:[/font] The Allies land on Sumatra and move toward Palembang.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]STRAT BOMBING:[/font] One night is sufficient to take out ALL of the industry, both HI and LI at Wenchow.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The Allies sweep at Liuchow. We have a few radars here and get decent warning. The Allied first wave comes together, cooperating, not coordinating, of course. [;)]

I included the full intercept reports for interest as this is a really nice isolated example of how several groups sweeping together will do much better and individual groups do not do well at all. Also nice to note the climbing CAP got over the sweepers in the second two sweeps. Having an altitude limit of 32k should hep us going forward. I think Jocke was too quick to request this after several planes arrived that could sweep above his own. This will really help to even the field moving forward, even with the beast of all beasts making it's debut soon; the P-47N!

The J7M1 is arriving in 5/45, but I'll only have 90/month. So really only the Ki-83 (also 90/month) and J7M1 will get close to the P-47N for speed, and we do get more of them total than he gets of that plane, but the P-47N will still be much better.

I moved in some Ki-83 and Sams the next day and I think he forgot to shut down one of the sweeping Corsair groups. They were met by a lot of diving CAP and probably low on morale, high on fatigue, were decimated.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]HOME ISLANDS: [/font] I've finally been getting the trashed divisions from Luzon, via Formosa, back to the main islands. These will take some time to fill out again, but might keep some experience, which is good. A bunch of base forces from Luzon are coming back in the next few weeks, and some of these are the big ones that have CD guns, which are needed ASAP on Kyushu. It's interesting that with what the Allies brought to Okinawa they could successfully land at any base in Japanese territory. I don't imagine they've been prepping for Kyushu yet, but I can't discount it either. He is in a hurry!

The Allied fleet moved up and into range of Kyushu. Not sure but it looks like he was trying to hit the BBs that were here for a few days. Instead he hit some newer 27 knot Matsu class DDs patrolling at Kagoshima. It was obviously a deliberate move as sweeps came in first crushing our CAP. Then a strike arrived with massive escort but only a small group of 40+ DB. The CAP did amazingly well in spite of previous losses and virtually wiped out the strike. Two DDs were hit and one sunk. None of the ASW E TFs in the area were attacked, which is too bad! [:D]

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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 98

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 35
F4U-1A Corsair x 39
F4U-1D Corsair x 78

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
36 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet *
30 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet *
32 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet * All of these groups cooperating in sweeps really took it to our elite Frank groups.

CAP engaged:
47th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 29 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
204th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 25 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 80

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 17
F4U-1D Corsair x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed
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Aircraft Attacking:
23 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet * Fewer planes sweeping and now with more of ours airborne, some maybe even climbing above the oncoming Corsairs, and the results are reversed.

CAP engaged:
47th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
18 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 33000 and 39900.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes
204th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 10 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
23 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 38900.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84r Frank x 70

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 15
F4U-1D Corsair x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet *
9 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet * Again the Allies get cooperating sweeps and they do slightly better, but especially watching the replay the defenders get slightly the better of it.

CAP engaged:
47th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
19 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 39900.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
204th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
20 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 31920 and 38270.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes

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Ground combat at Nago (95,65)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 101428 troops, 1905 guns, 1626 vehicles, Assault Value = 3989

Defending force 16194 troops, 401 guns, 126 vehicles, Assault Value = 135

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 1705

Japanese adjusted defense: 745

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 4

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
3156 casualties reported
Squads: 117 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 241 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 129 (36 destroyed, 93 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1283 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 104 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 42 (2 destroyed, 40 disabled)


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Night Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 8
B-29-25 Superfort x 43

No Allied losses

Light Industry hits 62

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Wenchow , at 89,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 6

No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Liuchow , at 74,55

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
Ki-83 x 18
Ki-84r Frank x 34

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 29

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 7 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x F4U-1A Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet *

CAP engaged:
S-901 Hikotai with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 32000 and 35760.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-83 (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
47th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 32000 and 38270.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
204th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 38000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 51
Ki-84r Frank x 34

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 74

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 12 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet
16 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 32000 feet

CAP engaged:
352 Ku S-2 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 12 on standby, 19 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 35760.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
S-310 Hikotai with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 35000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes

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Morning Air attack on 104th Division, at 67,44 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 38
Liberator GR.VI x 33
B-17E Fortress x 7
B-17F Fortress x 7
B-24D Liberator x 3
B-24D1 Liberator x 6
B-24J Liberator x 71

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
426 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kagoshima at 102,60

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 63 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 28
Ki-84r Frank x 56

Allied aircraft
Hellcat F.II x 24
F6F-3 Hellcat x 59
F6F-5 Hellcat x 208
SB2C-4 Helldiver x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hellcat F.II: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 12 destroyed
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 11 destroyed, 6 damaged
SB2C-4 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak


Japanese Ships
DD Kiri, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Sugi
DD Kaede, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Kaya

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C-4 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
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Reinforcements:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]2nd Tank Division arrives at Tokyo
10th JAAF AF Coy arrives at Tokyo
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment arrives at Tokyo
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment arrives at Tokyo
S-307 Hikotai arrives at Nagasaki/Sasebo
62nd Shinbu-tai arrives at Utsonomiya
68th Shinbu-tai arrives at Utsonomiya
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Losses: none.

Ships Sunk:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]xAK Horace Wells is reported to have been sunk near Cotabato on Sep 08, 1944[/font]
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Nice to get these kinds of results at this point in game. Also over our own territory. The next day was even better, something like 50 losses for 90 Allied CV planes shot down.

I'm not sure what is usual, but with 35k airframe losses we've only lost around 12-13k pilots KIA so far. Seems like that might be decent, but it would be interesting to see figures from another game to know more.
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I'm not sure what is usual, but with 35k airframe losses we've only lost around 12-13k pilots KIA so far. Seems like that might be decent, but it would be interesting to see figures from another game to know more.

In my game I see similar results. Loss ratio is ~1 KIA pilot for 3 lost planes
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ORIGINAL: koniu
I'm not sure what is usual, but with 35k airframe losses we've only lost around 12-13k pilots KIA so far. Seems like that might be decent, but it would be interesting to see figures from another game to know more.

In my game is see similar results. Loss ratio is ~1 KIA pilot for 3 lost planes

Good to know. Thanks koniu.
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you need to add in most of your MIA's to your KIA ... a few, a very few, will return, butm ost are gone.
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[font="Times New Roman"]23 - 24 March, 1945[/font]
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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] There are now around 15 subs at Naha. It'll b harder to bombard, now, but not impossible. I do have a lot of ASW ships.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]DEI:[/font] I might play with a paradrop behind the advancing Allied troops that are entering Georgetown now. Supply and reinforcements can of course be brought in by sea, but it'll still force more units to be brought into play. Maybe more time taken.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]STRAT BOMBING:[/font] Still clearing mines from the B-29 minelaying at Shanghai. It must be nearly 1000 mines here!

The Allies pick on some small Chinese cities and on Taihoku. Not much to hit, but the B-29s hit it hard.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Interesting turn of events here. The Chinese look to be by-passing Kweiyang, and are heading for the mountains! Kunming will be the target, but first of course it will be cut off from supply. It's a good maneuver. I'm contemplating whether I should add another division there to make 1k AV behind the level 9 forts. They will have no supply in a few weeks, and the Allied bombers are already hitting what they do have. The good thing about this is that they're not hitting Formosa, Shanghai or Kyushu. So I'll keep playing along and getting the HI more prepared, which is the only thing I can really defend at this point with strength. Time is passing.

The other interesting thing in China is that my small force of two divisions and a brigade make it to within one hex of Chunking before being discovered! [:D]

I didn't think I could cross there but started the troops anyway as I ran a bombing recon mission, and low and behold, it looks like China Command HQ, CAF HQ and a base force there now!!! [X(]

Two units are sprinting toward it from the South and my troops would cross in two days if I keep them going. It would be quite funny to take Chungking this way, but I doubt I could hold it. Already these forces have taken a pounding from the Allied 4Es, and it's questionable after two more days of that whether they'd actually win the city if I keep them going. They're in +3 terrain and blocking the supply path for the big MEGA-STACK of 1 million Chinese, so I could just hold, which might be more sound strategy, but not as fun! [;)]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]LUZON: [/font] not much going on in Allied bases on Luzon as the air force focuses on China.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]HOME ISLANDS: [/font] The USN Corsairs take another shot at Kagoshima, butI wonde if he just forgot and left ten on. They do much less well and get maybe 1.5:1 over our base. Another few divisions leave Formosa and move around near Shanghai, protected by the KB, and on to Fukuoka.

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Night Air attack on Taihoku , at 87,63

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 38

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Light Industry hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Wuchow , at 76,57

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 22

No Allied losses

Light Industry hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 38,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 20
Ki-84r Frank x 29
Ki-102b Randy x 10

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 10
Ki-84r Frank x 22
Ki-102b Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kunming , at 69,48

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 121
B-25D1 Mitchell x 4
B-25H Mitchell x 62
B-25J1 Mitchell x 102
B-25J11 Mitchell x 95
P-38J Lightning x 18
P-38L Lightning x 66
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 13
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 13

No Allied losses

Light Industry hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 40th Division, at 67,44 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 45
Liberator GR.VI x 24
B-17E Fortress x 7
B-17F Fortress x 7
B-24D Liberator x 7
B-24D1 Liberator x 11
B-24J Liberator x 48

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
320 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 24, 45
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Morning Air attack on China Command , at 76,45 (Chungking)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-67-Ib Peggy x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-67-Ib Peggy bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 3 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking CAF HQ ...
Also attacking China Command ...
Also attacking CAF HQ ...
Also attacking China Command ...

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Afternoon Air attack on 35th Division, at 76,46 , near Chungking

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8
B-24J Liberator x 58
B-25D1 Mitchell x 18
B-25G Mitchell x 12
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 15
PBJ-1D Mitchell x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
424 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 49 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
13 x PBJ-1D Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Reinforcements:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]31st Tankette Co arrives at Tokyo
88th JAAF AF Coy arrives at Tokyo
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Losses: none.

Ships Sunk:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]Previous report of sinking of SS Grouper incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service
xAK Cycle is reported to have been sunk near Biak on Aug 17, 1944
1st Ind.AA Gun Co arrives at Tokyo
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment arrives at Tokyo
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]It looks like the Allies will split the big MEGA-STACK in China, some up to the mountains and some to deal with the incursion of IJA near Chungking. It also seems, if my eyes aren't playing tricks, that some are trying to move around Kweiyang to the adjacent hex. I'll put a unit or two there just in case. The diversion let me immediately send another two divisions South and they will move into the territory near Wenchow and Liuchow.

The Allied air forces are massive and will eventually sweep away the meagre set of fighter groups I have stationed in China now. Amazing it hasn't happened already. Also, what the hell are 881 auxiliaries? Transports? Hmmmmmm. LR CAP?
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Hey Erik!

Back in Italy...[:o]
London was amazing, as always, and I've really loved to meet you! Valentina is really fond of you[:)]
The Islandic (sp?!) restaurant (Texture) was great...awesome place, awesome people...but really too expensive! The Michelain star may be well deserved but after a certain level of prices it really becomes "stupid" to waste all that money on food. But Valentina loved it, so it was all for good [8|]

Hope to be back there in next spring!
And remember: you promised me and my GF to play against me in the future[8D]
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