OT - WWII quiz

[british exil]

ORIGINAL: Centuur

A political WW II question: a German died in the Netherlands on the 4th. of juni 1941, being held under house arrest.

Who was he and what did Adolf Hitler send to the funeral against the deceased last wishes?

It was the Kaiser Wilhelm 2
Hitler sent a wreath.


Mat

[Centuur]

ORIGINAL: british exil

ORIGINAL: Centuur

A political WW II question: a German died in the Netherlands on the 4th. of juni 1941, being held under house arrest.

Who was he and what did Adolf Hitler send to the funeral against the deceased last wishes?

It was the Kaiser Wilhelm 2
Hitler sent a wreath.


Mat

The name and what Hitler send is correct. But why was that against the deceased last wishes?

[british exil]

Although the Kaiser was overjoyed that Hilter had conquered France in such a short time, he hated the Nazi regime. I think he was also appalled that a Bömische Corporal ruled over the Army and Germany.
If I'm not mistaken Wilhelm was still upset that he had to leave Germany and live a simple life in Holland. He never visited Germany at all.

Mat

[Centuur]

ORIGINAL: british exil

Although the Kaiser was overjoyed that Hilter had conquered France in such a short time, he hated the Nazi regime. I think he was also appalled that a Bömische Corporal ruled over the Army and Germany.
If I'm not mistaken Wilhelm was still upset that he had to leave Germany and live a simple life in Holland. He never visited Germany at all.

Mat

The moment he would try to enter Germany, Hitler would have him arrested. Also: when the Germans conquered the Netherlands a special unit was gathered to guard the castle of Doorn to prevent him leaving there. Hitler didn't want him anywhere in Germany at all. The Kaiser also made a vow never to return to Germany and even forbid the returning of his remains to Germany if the Monarchy wasn't restored first. That a Bömisches Corporal ruled over Germany was appalling to him, but so was the Weimar Régime or President Hindenburg in his eyes.
You are still right about the Kaiser hating the Nazi Regime. However: there was one very particular statement made in his wishes, regarding his funeral. This has to do with the wreath, but it wasn't the wreath itself that was against his wishes...

[composer99]

Did the wreath have a Nazi swastika on it? If memory seves, Wilhelm II wrote about several cultures in the Indian subcontinent (or thereabouts) which used swastikas as holy symbols; it turned out that the Nazi swastika was an inverted version of these symbols, and the inversion was thought to symbolize ill-fortune.

[Centuur]

ORIGINAL: composer99

Did the wreath have a Nazi swastika on it? If memory seves, Wilhelm II wrote about several cultures in the Indian subcontinent (or thereabouts) which used swastikas as holy symbols; it turned out that the Nazi swastika was an inverted version of these symbols, and the inversion was thought to symbolize ill-fortune.

Yes, it did. The Kaiser didn't want any swastika to appear at his funeral. If that was because of religious or political reasons, is unknown.

The remains of the last German Kaiser are still in the mausoleum in Doorn, waiting for the day the monarchy will be restored in Germany...

[michaelbaldur]

ORIGINAL: Centuur

ORIGINAL: composer99

Did the wreath have a Nazi swastika on it? If memory seves, Wilhelm II wrote about several cultures in the Indian subcontinent (or thereabouts) which used swastikas as holy symbols; it turned out that the Nazi swastika was an inverted version of these symbols, and the inversion was thought to symbolize ill-fortune.

Yes, it did. The Kaiser didn't want any swastika to appear at his funeral. If that was because of religious or political reasons, is unknown.

The remains of the last German Kaiser are still in the mausoleum in Doorn, waiting for the day the monarchy will be restored in Germany...

just thought ...

are the still a blood line to the German monarchy

[british exil]

Yep.
There are still princes here in Germany. Check out Prinz Ernst August.
He's always involved in some kind of scandal.

But the "royals" don't really have much power, they more or less just have their lands and status.


Mat

[brian brian]

I always thought 13th Panzer also made it the farthest east and read something recently about that actually being the 16th Mot. I went on to the net to get the details, and the details included a convoy of blue trucks advancing along with the 16th Mot's recon. On the blue trucks were said to be a squadron of Italian motor torpedo boats to launch in the Caspian Sea. I don't know how that turned out, just something I read online. Had never heard of that before.

[ezzler]

On 3 January 1993 the people of St. Nazaire honored Alan Magee and the crew of his bomber by erecting a 6-foot tall memorial to the.
Magee was the ball gunner of the B-17. Why was he so honoured?

[british exil]

Had no idea, couldn't wait to find out so I googled.
Verrrrry interesting!


Mat

[brian brian]

Reading about this famous war again. ezz's question sounds interesting but I have never heard of the man. St Nazaire makes me think of a different bit of Allied equipment than a bomber.

Who was the first Allied General to enter Rome?

[JeffroK]

ORIGINAL: brian brian

Reading about this famous war again. ezz's question sounds interesting but I have never heard of the man. St Nazaire makes me think of a different bit of Allied equipment than a bomber.

Who was the first Allied General to enter Rome?

As a POW or Free?

[paulderynck]

Or before switching sides?

[brian brian]

you guys are sharp. had forgot the possible POW angle. no Vichy or Vlassov. entered Rome under orders from his high command.

[Extraneous]

In the Royal Navy (British Navy) during World War II how can you tell the difference between a Mechanical Transport (MT) and a Landing Ship Infantry (LSI)?
 
(1) Check with the Ministry of War Transportation (MoWT).
(2) Check what they are carrying.
(3) The troops are getting in the boats.
(4) They carry landing craft.
 
 

[micheljq]

ORIGINAL: brian brian

Who was the first Allied General to enter Rome?

Mmmm Clarke lost his command after Anzio, I would try Montgomery but probably I am wrong (again).

[Orm]

Would it have been possible that a General entered Rome to negotiate with the Germans before Rome was liberated by the Allies?

[micheljq]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Would it have been possible that a General entered Rome to negotiate with the Germans before Rome was liberated by the Allies?

or negociate with the italians or with the 5th column? (spies, intelligence from the mafia)?

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: brian brian

you guys are sharp. had forgot the possible POW angle. no Vichy or Vlassov. entered Rome under orders from his high command.

We're not that sharp. It's just that you've developed a reputation.