THE THREAD

[Yava]

Let us just hope that you are not right Robert. It seems that even if they really want to implement the new site look and stuff it is not organized the way it should be or they are having some troubles that they won't share with us. [:(]

[USSAmerica]

I also hope you are not correct, Bob.  However, suspicion grows with every passing day.  [8|]

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: USS America

I also hope you are not correct, Bob. However, suspicion grows with every passing day. [8|]

In regards to the Thread in this matter: "Once can be considered an accident, twice must be considered design".

So, i guess we can look forward to Thread IV probably being removed next June...[8|][X(] i don't think i'll bother to correct typos or misspellings anymore...[:D]

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: fabertong

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

Anyone know a good recipe for asparagus?

Steamed(but still crunchy) served with a soft-poached egg..........alternatively......Grilled.....then cover in Extra-virgin Olive oil......and sprinkle over some fresh Parmesan.....Aparagus can be difficult to marry with wine......maybe a fresh Sauvignon Blanc........or more rustic.....a Rose' the south of France is littered with many good ones....Yum......I'll be over later......

Just remember that if you have the gene for the chemical in asparagus (PTC maybe?, can't remember) it'll taste bitter to you. That's why some people can't stand asparagus.

[Yava]

[:D]

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: fabertong

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005

Anyone know a good recipe for asparagus?

Steamed(but still crunchy) served with a soft-poached egg..........alternatively......Grilled.....then cover in Extra-virgin Olive oil......and sprinkle over some fresh Parmesan.....Aparagus can be difficult to marry with wine......maybe a fresh Sauvignon Blanc........or more rustic.....a Rose' the south of France is littered with many good ones....Yum......I'll be over later......

Just remember that if you have the gene for the chemical in asparagus (PTC maybe?, can't remember) it'll taste bitter to you. That's why some people can't stand asparagus.

Not sure about the "bitter" part, but the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine) is genetically determined... apparently it is absolutely FOUL (for those who can smell it)... bad enough that people who have the gene won't eat it...

[Yava]

Excuse me but what do you mean by " the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine)"? [:)] 

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: Wolfie1

Interesting, driving home today when I finished work I got buzzed by a Spitfire[:)] I just love the sound of a Merlin Engine[:D]

Hallucinating again, Rick?

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: Yava

Excuse me but what do you mean by " the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine)"? [:)]

Asparagus is broken down in the body to various chemicals, many of which are excreted in the urine - this from Wiki (although the 40% number quoted at the end seems way too high...):

"The effect of eating asparagus on the urine of some people has long been known. Marcel Proust claimed that asparagus "...transforms my chamber-pot into a flask of perfume." Certain constituents of asparagus are metabolized giving urine a distinctive smell due to various sulfur-containing degradation products, including various thiols, thioesters, and ammonia. Derivatives of asparagusic acid are also found in urine. The speed of onset of urine smell has been estimated to occur within 15-30 minutes of ingestion.[17] It has been claimed that most people produce the odorous compounds after eating asparagus, but only about 40% of the population have the autosomal genes required to smell them."

[Yava]

Hmmm, interesting. Still, it seems I am not in those 40%. Thanks Bob![:)]

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Yava

Excuse me but what do you mean by " the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine)"? [:)]

Asparagus is broken down in the body to various chemicals, many of which are excreted in the urine - this from Wiki (although the 40% number quoted at the end seems way too high...):

"The effect of eating asparagus on the urine of some people has long been known. Marcel Proust claimed that asparagus "...transforms my chamber-pot into a flask of perfume." Certain constituents of asparagus are metabolized giving urine a distinctive smell due to various sulfur-containing degradation products, including various thiols, thioesters, and ammonia. Derivatives of asparagusic acid are also found in urine. The speed of onset of urine smell has been estimated to occur within 15-30 minutes of ingestion.[17] It has been claimed that most people produce the odorous compounds after eating asparagus, but only about 40% of the population have the autosomal genes required to smell them."

i might add: there seems to be a lot of differing opinions on this - some people claim that only some people can make the chemical that makes the urine stink and that only some people can smell it. Studies seem to vary on what populations are studied (in some populations, the genes seem to be very low in incidence, while in others the incidence of the some of these genes goes to nearly 50%)

[Yava]

I must say that when I was a kid I hated eating asparagus but now I do love it. [:)]

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: fabertong



Steamed(but still crunchy) served with a soft-poached egg..........alternatively......Grilled.....then cover in Extra-virgin Olive oil......and sprinkle over some fresh Parmesan.....Aparagus can be difficult to marry with wine......maybe a fresh Sauvignon Blanc........or more rustic.....a Rose' the south of France is littered with many good ones....Yum......I'll be over later......

Just remember that if you have the gene for the chemical in asparagus (PTC maybe?, can't remember) it'll taste bitter to you. That's why some people can't stand asparagus.

Not sure about the "bitter" part, but the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine) is genetically determined... apparently it is absolutely FOUL (for those who can smell it)... bad enough that people who have the gene won't eat it...

Bob, there definitely is a bitter taste from PTC (phenylthiourea). It's simple Mendelian genetics (PTC is recessive). It was part of one of my labs back at OSU. I'm a non-taster. Apparently, it's pretty nasty tasting (from the looks of the kids who were tasters). [:D]

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Yava

Excuse me but what do you mean by " the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine)"? [:)]

Asparagus is broken down in the body to various chemicals, many of which are excreted in the urine - this from Wiki (although the 40% number quoted at the end seems way too high...):

"The effect of eating asparagus on the urine of some people has long been known. Marcel Proust claimed that asparagus "...transforms my chamber-pot into a flask of perfume." Certain constituents of asparagus are metabolized giving urine a distinctive smell due to various sulfur-containing degradation products, including various thiols, thioesters, and ammonia. Derivatives of asparagusic acid are also found in urine. The speed of onset of urine smell has been estimated to occur within 15-30 minutes of ingestion.[17] It has been claimed that most people produce the odorous compounds after eating asparagus, but only about 40% of the population have the autosomal genes required to smell them."

Since it's simple Mendelian inheritance, it should be 25% of the population, but that often is different in isolated populations.

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli




Just remember that if you have the gene for the chemical in asparagus (PTC maybe?, can't remember) it'll taste bitter to you. That's why some people can't stand asparagus.

Not sure about the "bitter" part, but the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine) is genetically determined... apparently it is absolutely FOUL (for those who can smell it)... bad enough that people who have the gene won't eat it...

Bob, there definitely is a bitter taste from PTC (phenylthiourea). It's simple Mendelian genetics (PTC is recessive). It was part of one of my labs back at OSU. I'm a non-taster. Apparently, it's pretty nasty tasting (from the looks of the kids who were tasters). [:D]

The genetics of asparagus... so three things at work:
1) taste gene
2) production of nasty smells gene(s)
3) ability to smell nasty smell gene(s) [:D]

[BrucePowers]

I really like asparagus. I have not noticed any odiforous effects.[:D]

I am going to try grilling it as suggested earlier by Mike.

[Yava]

I am waiting for the results of this experiment [;)]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: fabertong



Steamed(but still crunchy) served with a soft-poached egg..........alternatively......Grilled.....then cover in Extra-virgin Olive oil......and sprinkle over some fresh Parmesan.....Aparagus can be difficult to marry with wine......maybe a fresh Sauvignon Blanc........or more rustic.....a Rose' the south of France is littered with many good ones....Yum......I'll be over later......

Just remember that if you have the gene for the chemical in asparagus (PTC maybe?, can't remember) it'll taste bitter to you. That's why some people can't stand asparagus.

Not sure about the "bitter" part, but the ability to smell metabolites of asparagus (in the urine) is genetically determined... apparently it is absolutely FOUL (for those who can smell it)... bad enough that people who have the gene won't eat it...

Wow, I love the taste of asparagus and always have, so I am sure I don't taste the bitter part. I do, however, smell what you are talking about in my urine! It is FOUL, like the smell of a 2 week old bucket of dirty mop water! [X(][:D] Doesn't stop me from eating it! [;)]

[BrucePowers]

Tithe[:)]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: BrucePowers

I really like asparagus. I have not noticed any odiforous effects.[:D]

I am going to try grilling it as suggested earlier by Mike.

Bruce, it seems we are from the same genetic group, lacking the taste gene, but having the smell gene. [:D]