NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Nord 1

I plan to take combined with CW and US and move some ships. China takes land and retreats leaving 2 units to Changsha.

CW rails Wavell to northern France, lands TERR to Morocco and INF + MIL to France. Turn may end after Axis impulse.

I can start or play entire impulse if you send instructions.

I am thinking that it is to early to leave the Mufu mountains east of Changsha. Maybe moving the Nationalists something like this works? In the North the 5-3 joins the AT while the 4-3 moves two hexes South. What do you think?

Something like that, but Canton MIL moves one hex to west.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Nord 1

I plan to take combined with CW and US and move some ships. China takes land and retreats leaving 2 units to Changsha.

CW rails Wavell to northern France, lands TERR to Morocco and INF + MIL to France. Turn may end after Axis impulse.

I can start or play entire impulse if you send instructions.

I'll try and post instructions for my impulse today so that you can do it all at your leisure.

May I suggest that Wavell set up his Headquarter in south-western France instead? Bayonne comes to mind. There he is located in a fairly secure location while still increasing the size of the British expeditionary force.

Maybe Wavell can slowly march to the southwest of France instead in order to save oil? If you travel along the rail line then the HQ can always rail later on.

I would like to send Wavell to north to be placed placed behind the line to prevent German tanks breaking through. France gets one more unit where needed. When it starts to look bad, Wavell rails to SW France.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Nord 2

May I propose a somewhat different production plan for Germany until the downfall of France is secured. With focus on increasing the size of Luftwaffe as soon as possible and increasing the oil production.

I am thinking something like this. Note that the Hs123 isn't scrapped but built instead. This because of gearing reasons so that 4 aircrafts can be built in Jan/Feb. Luxury items like ships and submarines I think should be delayed until production is increased and the fall of Paris ensured. And land units can wait as well since they are fairly fast.


Save 3 oil and use 3 oil for production. (15 BP)

Sep/ Oct Production (15): (Scrap 2 LND3 - Do17 and He111)
4 x Pilot
FTR3
NAV3 (or ATR3)
Save 1 BP

Nov/Dec '39 production (17):
Pilot (2 x pilots if 18 BPs or possible to replace the 3 cost aircraft with a 2 cost)
2 x LND2
ATR 3 (or NAV3)
Synth plant

Jan/Feb '40 production (17): (Scrap units)
MIL (or pilot)
2 x FTR2
2 X LND2
Synth Plant

I can build more pilots and air units, but prefer not to build Hs123.

If we go straight to Russia, do I need to build synth plant?

Germany has lots of land units in Poland right now, they can't attack before they rail and reorganize 3 of them.

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

I can build more pilots and air units, but prefer not to build Hs123.

If we go straight to Russia, do I need to build synth plant?

Germany has lots of land units in Poland right now, they can't attack before they rail and reorganize 3 of them.

1) The Hs 123 is partly there for gearing purposes so that Germany can build two good fighters and two Stukas in Jan/Feb. Two BP cost aircraft are rare for Germany. And partly because it is a perfect front bomber, or designated loss plane. I usually prefer waiting with building LND3 until I can scrap few more of the really, really bad ones.

2) Personally, I almost always build the synth plants. I think it improves the long term economy and that more oil increase flexibility. And eventually, or usually, Germany will have to pay for the Italian oil use as well if the Italian are going to be of any use. It also provides more flexibility in the strategic goals. And, in my humble opinion, if the synths are to be built it should be as early as possible to get maximum use out of them.

3) I am not sure I understand why this is an issue. If this is why you want to build militia and infantry then I do not agree. Any militia built can appear far from the front and can be so bad it is useless at the front. And any infantry build is not faster than any unit in Poland.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Nordic 2

I go with Synth plant, pilots and planes.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I don't want to build Hs123 to get optimal gearing limit.

So this and next turn Germany can build LND2 (Stuka), ATR3, FTR3 (Bf110) and NAV3 (He115C). I build LND2 now and 2 of ATR3/NAV3/FTR3 next impulse.

Germany suffered in naval combats and they have only 6 CPs left. They need to deploy one 3 factor fighter to protect Baltic Sea from long range bombers. I take pilot from weak Do17 for that purpose. I really don't want build CPs any time soon.

What do you think about this:

1939 S/O
Production 15
Synth oil
3x Pilot
LND2

(I will build only one Synthetic oil)

1939 N/D
Pilots
2 planes
Land units

1940 J/F
Pilots
3x LND2/FTR2
Land units

[Orm]

Ok. That is a plan then. [:)]

Although I suspect I will re-open the synth issue at some point.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

I can point you few oil fields in the east. Germany just needs few more lands units for that operation [;)]

[Orm]

Nord 2:

Japan plan to take a land impulse while Italy take a combined. How do you want to handle this impulse? I would prefer to do the Japanese land movement.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Game 2:

You can move Japanese units. Germany takes land action and moves units to west. Plan is to attack Belgium if weather gets better.

No air missions, only rail moves, land moves and rebase missions.

Rail moves
6-3 INF from Poznan to Aachen
2x 7-4 INF from Lodz to Cologne
(Germany reorganizes these 3 units)

I can do German land moves after Japan is done.

Later today I can continue planning/playing.

[Orm]

Game 2:

Would be nice if Germany could find time to get out convoys some time during the impulse.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

They will. But first I take land action so that Germany is ready to attack if weather turns fine. If next impulse is bad weather, CPs sails to Baltic Sea.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Wrong thread. I had something to say to AllenK [:)]

[Orm]

I feel left out. [:(] [;)] [:D]

[Orm]

Nord 2:

The Italian division disembark into Cagliari.

Air Rebase:

Japan:
1) FTR2 (85, 144) -> Changsha
2) NAv2 (Sasebo) -> Changsha

Italy:
1) NAV2 (Genoa) -> La Spezia

[Orm]

Nord 1:

How about placing the US Entry Chit in the Japanese pool and, if possible, select resources to China?


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If a partisan appears in Persia it is Allies who place, and control it, so I would appreciate if it was placed somewhere where it would be easy to hunt down. Maybe hex 74, 83?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Nord 1:

How about placing the US Entry Chit in the Japanese pool and, if possible, select resources to China?


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If a partisan appears in Persia it is Allies who place, and control it, so I would appreciate if it was placed somewhere where it would be easy to hunt down. Maybe hex 74, 83?

We can do both.

[Orm]

Nord 1:

Preliminary end of turn orders for France and USSR.

Prod Plan:

France:
The Port of Spain oil should be changed to be saved in Fort-De-France, Martinique. This might be enough to get the Senegal resource to France. France should produce for 11 factories and have 7 BPs. The Iraq oil is saved in Damascus (unless, of course, there are extra CPs available then it can be saved in Lyons).

USSR:
Save the oil in Irkutsk.

Stay at sea:
All CPs stay at sea. The three French cruisers in the 1-box of Bay of Biscay stay.

Return to Base:

The French ships in North Atlantic return to Brest. the TRS and CA is the Med return to Mogador, Morocco.

Use oil:
France reorganize all units except the CV for no oil cost (0.4).
USSR reorganize all units for no oil (0.2).


Production:

France (7):
HQI
Pilot

USSR (8):
LND4
INF
Save 1 BP in Moscow.

Reinforcements:

France:
FTR3 -> Paris

USSR:
LND3 -> Baku
GARR -> Minsk

[Orm]

Nord 1:

No need for Communist China, France, or USSR, to go first. Possible bad weather ahead with the positive die modifiers for the weather roll. this may seriously hamper the Nationalist movement in China but it affects the Japanese attack odds as well. So unless China or CW needs to go first I suggest that we let Axis move first.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Nord 1

Axis can go first.

How do we send resources to China? I remember this is the game where partisan appeared to Burma destroying oil field and it can cut Burma road, can't it? Haven't look at map, but can we send resources some other way?