Naval and Defense News

[Dysta]

Interestingly, some medias mis-reported it as China is now reclaiming the shoal. Philippine officials has reported that China has not touching it yet:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/826105/no- ... -shoal-dnd

[kevinkins]

Complicated situation heating up based on this report ...

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/turkey-says-g ... 22385.html

More on China's S400s:

http://www.atimes.com/article/chinas-ne ... rd%20Brief

Curiously, the last paragraph mentions them used in a "pre-emptive strike." Does Taiwan maintain a large 24/7 CAP?

[Dysta]

And finally, the propaganda outlet has spitted at US:

http://en.people.cn/n3/2018/0122/c90000-9418218.html
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/chinas-top-pa ... 00785.html

[xavierv]

"Distributed lethality" concept pushed to the extreme

Lockheed Martin Studying Integration of LRASM Anti-Ship Missile on USV Platforms

At the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) 2017 National Symposium held last year, Lockheed Martin was showcasing a Mark VI patrol boat scale model fitted with an erectable launcher for four missiles at its stern. This conceptual model was representative of an unmanned Mark VI patrol boat fitted with LRASM next generation anti ship missiles.

more at https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... forms.html

USMC & NAVAIR Completes F-35B Sloped Surface Vertical Landing Tests

The F-35 Patuxent River Integrated Test Force team brings the U.S. Marine Corps’ F-35B one step closer to initial operational test and evaluation as they wrap up testing of the F-35B STOVL envelope with sloped surface vertical landing tests January and February at Marine Corps Auxiliary Landing Field (MCALF) Bogue, N.C.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... tests.html

General Dynamics NASSCO Starts Sea Trials of USNS Hershel “Woody” Williams ESB4

General Dynamics NASSCO started sea trials for the U.S. Navy’s newest Expeditionary Sea Base, the USNS Hershel “Woody” Williams (ESB 4) on January 17, 2018.USNS Hershel “Woody” Williams is the Navy’s second ESB ship. The 784-foot-long ship will serve as a flexible platform to support a variety of missions, including air mine countermeasures, counter-piracy operations, maritime security and humanitarian missions. The ship will provide for accommodations for up to 250 personnel, a 52,000-square-foot flight deck, fuel and equipment storage, and will also support MH-53 and MH-60 helicopters with an option to support MV-22 tilt-rotor aircraft. Currently nearing the end of construction, the ship will be delivered to the U.S. Navy in February 2018.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -esb4.html

[Hongjian]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/ ... -near-guam

Interesting article about Chinese ASW surveillance network near Guam, positioned in the Mariana Trench at challenger depths.

[Hongjian]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac ... ign=buffer

An article about the upcoming KJ-600 AEW&C, which seems to be basically an E-2D copy. It would most probably be equipped with long-band radars for counter stealth detection, equally modeling after the Advanced Hawkeye.

[kevinkins]

Yeah, the tail section seems awfully similar to a novices eye. I always have wondered what advantage that configuration imparts. Stability for the electronics array maybe.

[xavierv]

NSM anti-ship missile to be tested from U.S. Army HEMTT during RIMPAC 2018

At the Surface Navy Association's (SNA) 2018 National Symposium held in January near Washington DC, Navy Recognition learned from Raytheon and Kongsberg that the Naval Strike Missile (NSM) will be test fired from a U.S. Army HEMTT truck during RIMPAC 2018 exercise this summer.

More: https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -2018.html

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Yeah, the tail section seems awfully similar to a novices eye. I always have wondered what advantage that configuration imparts. Stability for the electronics array maybe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_tail

While true, it's more because of the single massive tail will hit the roof of the carrier hangar.

[kevinkins]

Thanks ... in the news today:

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17 ... nside-f-35

Excellent text and video on the weapon under development.

[orca]

The U.S. Navy has hired Orbital ATK, now part of Northrop Grumman, to begin formal development of a new missile that can suppress and destroy enemy air defense emitters, known as the the Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile-Extended Range, or AARGM-ER.



http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17 ... nside-f-35

Edit- sorry for duplicate post. Didn’t see that kevinkin beat me to it!

[kevinkins]

No worries .. the video is worth the added attention and most players will enjoy it.

Kevin

[Dysta]

It's been a while to reconsider VLS-UNREP by US after decades of non-use for the VLS cranes. I wonder are they still want to reload missiles on sea?

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/exc ... stem-21425

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Also, a scenario opportunity:

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the ... -war-23812

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A prolonged negligence to resolve nuclear weapons proliferation after Trump is in office for a year, resulting the now-closest imminency of Doomsday Clock. Now it has only 2 minutes left.

https://www.cnet.com/news/doomsday-cloc ... te-change/

[strykerpsg]

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Yeah, the tail section seems awfully similar to a novices eye. I always have wondered what advantage that configuration imparts. Stability for the electronics array maybe.

Like most ideas not originated by that country, copy what seems to work. They have done so with the vast majority of their weapons, whether copying Russian, European or US. Why go out on a limb and make something different when the E-2D sets the current standard for quite a few navies.

[ExNusquam]

ORIGINAL: strykerpsg

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Yeah, the tail section seems awfully similar to a novices eye. I always have wondered what advantage that configuration imparts. Stability for the electronics array maybe.

Like most ideas not originated by that country, copy what seems to work. They have done so with the vast majority of their weapons, whether copying Russian, European or US. Why go out on a limb and make something different when the E-2D sets the current standard for quite a few navies.

It's not so much "copying" as "building something with identical requirements". Go compare the Quest Kodiak to the Cessna Caravan. There's some basics that you're going to end up with regardless of your design process.

The actual tail design comes from the fact that the E-2 is designed to do flat, skidding turns to keep the radar level and improve performance. With an AESA you could electronically level your scan volume, at the expense of power/accuracy (ESAs have a power fall-off as the beam gets further from array normal.

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: strykerpsg

Like most ideas not originated by that country, copy what seems to work. They have done so with the vast majority of their weapons, whether copying Russian, European or US. Why go out on a limb and make something different when the E-2D sets the current standard for quite a few navies.

Someone will always differ:

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/01/c ... -away.html (comment section)

zardinuk

I don't understand why they copy it piece for piece, couldn't they have used a more modern-looking airframe? It's almost like it's meant to be a slap in the face. They had the opportunity to build a brand new plane and they chose an old aircraft carrier cargo-plane design, that the disc was added to.

Why it has to be an airliner, regional jet or cargo plane as a platform? Especially the new AWACS should heavily empathize survivability when hostile fighters armed with Super-long ranged AAMs will hunt them like elephants.

I found a topic why there's no military try to develop unmanned AWACS, or use supersonic airframe from bombers or even fighters. However , I just realized US already did something very sophisticated for AEW role, and it's called F-35. It doesn't have a whole C&C in a small jet, but networked intelligence should not be a problem.

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-AWACS-pla ... ACS-drones

[ExNusquam]

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/ ... -top-world

Interesting Stratfor piece on airbase improvements by the Indian Air Force and the PLAAF. Does anyone recognize what color composite they're using? To me it almost looks like VNIR in the blue channel.

[strykerpsg]

ORIGINAL: ExNusquam

ORIGINAL: strykerpsg

ORIGINAL: kevinkin

Yeah, the tail section seems awfully similar to a novices eye. I always have wondered what advantage that configuration imparts. Stability for the electronics array maybe.

Like most ideas not originated by that country, copy what seems to work. They have done so with the vast majority of their weapons, whether copying Russian, European or US. Why go out on a limb and make something different when the E-2D sets the current standard for quite a few navies.

It's not so much "copying" as "building something with identical requirements". Go compare the Quest Kodiak to the Cessna Caravan. There's some basics that you're going to end up with regardless of your design process.

The actual tail design comes from the fact that the E-2 is designed to do flat, skidding turns to keep the radar level and improve performance. With an AESA you could electronically level your scan volume, at the expense of power/accuracy (ESAs have a power fall-off as the beam gets further from array normal.

Fair enough, but there are very few original ideas coming out of China, never has, never will. Just cheaper to steal, copy or re=produce what other countries researched and developed. Every aspect of that airframe screams E-2D, even down to the windows and tail.

[thewood1]

"building something with identical requirements"

We've heard this before. Anyone remember the Soviet space shuttle. It looked exactly like the US space shuttle, only scaled up slightly. The above quote is what was used to explain it at the time. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, records showed that the Soviets has managed to get the designs of the space shuttle. And followed them as closely as they could with Soviet manufacturing capabilities.

Don't blame them. Its a hell of a head start to let your enemy do all the heavy lifting. My point is that I don't for a minute think that complex systems design can coincidentally be so similar in design and look.

[PaladinZeroSix]

I'm surprised no one has posted about this yet....

Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to post links yet, but google "Declassified Cold War files reveal how the Soviets sneaked up behind enemy submarines without sonar".