Ukraine 2014

[jtoatoktoe]

Russian forces have taken control of facilities in Kherson on the mainland Ukraine just north of Crimea.

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Edit: Map removed; wrong area [:)]

[jtoatoktoe]

Apparently the troops were Paratroopers who came in on Helicopters. Heard (And this is unconfirmed but saw it somewhere) that they retreated when Ukrainian Forces arrived in the area.

[SaneStatistician]

@Baloogan: Nah, wrong point anyway. This is about Strilkove, Kherson region (N45.899186 E34.879819, according to GeoNames), not Kherson proper. There's a compressor station on a gas pipeline to Crimea there.

[RoryAndersonCDT]

ORIGINAL: SaneStatistician

@Baloogan: Nah, wrong point anyway. This is about Strilkove, Kherson region (N45.899186 E34.879819, according to GeoNames), not Kherson proper. There's a compressor station on a gas pipeline to Crimea there.

Right thanks, map removed.

[Rudd]

from http://www.armyrecognition.com/march_20 ... 60314.html
edit: this one may not be correct either...

[Rudd]

Here's another image of the Ukrainian oil/ng infrastructure. Plenty of facilities that need to be "protected" from "terrorists"...

[jtoatoktoe]

Ukrainian Tanks at the Russian border.....waiting.

[RoryAndersonCDT]

T-64 I think. [:)]

[JSF]

ORIGINAL: Baloogan

T-64 I think. [:)]

No match for Russia´s T-90. Canon fodder.

[mikmykWS]

What matters is how and how well the tank and the army behind it are used.

Not sure what impact the difference between the tech specs of the tanks would have in this matchup. The main guns are basically the same? Is there evidence that T-90's in the region?

Regardless I'd feel real bad for the Ukrainian and Russian grunts in the region if these two duke it out. Not sure their lives are worth the gains.


Mike

[NakedWeasel]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

What matters is how and how well the tank and the army behind it are used.

Not sure what impact the difference between the tech specs of the tanks would have in this matchup. The main guns are basically the same? Is there evidence that T-90's in the region?

Regardless I'd feel real bad for the Ukrainian and Russian grunts in the region if these two duke it out. Not sure their lives are worth the gains.


Mike

Same gun. And I agree, not worth it.

[RoryAndersonCDT]

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/na ... in-ukraine

[P]lanning for Rapid Trident 2014 — a large, USAREUR-led multinational exercise scheduled for July — is ongoing, he [EUCOM spokesman Lt. Col. David Westover] said.

That exercise, in Lviv, near the Polish border, is to "promote regional stability and security, strengthen partnership capacity, and foster trust while improving interoperability between USAREUR, the land forces of Ukraine, and other (NATO and partner) nations," according to the USAEUR website.

In addition to USAREUR troops, Rapid Trident 2014 will include units from Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Canada, Georgia, Germany, Moldova, Poland, Romania, the United Kingdom and Ukraine, Westover said. It will feature a combined U.S. and Ukrainian battalion headquarters practicing a peacekeeping operation, he said. "Exercise planning will continue until we are told otherwise."

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Russia to move 3,000 soldiers to Finnish border
http://yle.fi/uutiset/russia_to_move_30 ... er/7140350

Ukrainian government refuses to remove troops from Crimea, prepares for war
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine ... 39724.html

In the wake of a March 16 referendum in which Crimeans voted to join the Russian Federation, Ukrainian leaders refused to cede any part of the peninsula, calling on their troops to prepare for war.

“Crimea was, is, and will be our territory,” said Defense Minister Ihor Tenyukh in a statement delivered at the Ukrainian Crisis Media Center on March 17.

Former heavyweight boxing champion and leader of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform Vitali Klitschko announced that Ukrainian troops would remain at their bases, even after March 21, the end of a peace treaty signed by the interior ministries of Ukraine and Russia.

In accordance with the March 16 peace treaty, the Russian Interior Ministry promised to allow Ukrainian soldiers to pass freely into and out of their bases, which Russian troops had surrounded for more than two weeks. Tenyukh said that the Russian military had thus far respected the terms of the treaty.

Although tensions have de-escalated around military bases in Crimea since the signing of the treaty, neither side is prepared to back down. The Russian government expects that Ukrainian troops will surrender their military bases before the conclusion of the treaty. The Ukrainian government has said that it will not withdraw forces from Crimea, using the peace as an opportunity to replenish supplies for Ukrainian troops stationed on Crimean bases.

When asked whether Ukrainian troops would fight to defend Crimea, Tenyukh replied tersely, “The armed forces will execute their tasks, ” later adding, “Ukrainian forces will stay [in Crimea] until all their tasks have been completed.”

Speaking to the Verkhovna Rada in the evening on March 17, Ukrainian President Oleksandr Turchynov said that his government would "do everything possible to prevent war." However, he noted that "the threat of war is real...We are strengthening our defense capacity. Ukraine is ready to defend its territory."

Earlier on March 17, the Ukrainian parliament voted to allot 6.7 billion hryvnia (more than $600 million) to bolster the country’s defenses over the next three months, and to partially mobilize the armed forces.

Tenyukh said that the mobilization was intended to bring the military to “full readiness.” The Verkhovna Rada called for 40,000 troops to be mobilized, calling on reservists to prepare for active duty.

As the Ukrainian economy teeters on the verge of default, the country’s top leaders have been forced to devote resources to bolstering Ukraine’s military, which many believe former President Victor Yanukovich intentionally undermined over the course of his three and a half year reign.

Klitschko said Ukrainian parliamentarians were prepared to send 25 percent of their salaries to “support patriots in Crimea.”

Pavlo Petrenko, Ukraine’s Justice Minister, said that the “the most important issue is to restore the military might of Ukraine.”

“Our army should be ready for combat,” said Petrenko.

Klitschko reiterated that the March 16 referendum in Crimea was conducted illegally, and that the peninsula remains “part and parcel” of Ukraine. As such, the Ukrainian government will continue to provide services to Crimea, including electricity, gas, and water.

In another indication of deteriorating relations between Ukraine and Russia, Klitschko announced that Volodymyr Yelchenko, the Ukrainian ambassador to Russia, would be recalled from Moscow for consultations with the newly formed government in Kyiv.

The escalation in rhetoric comes as pro-Kremlin Crimean leaders took the first steps towards integration into the Russian Federation.

The Crimean Supreme Council voted on March 17 to introduce Moscow time to Crimea on March 30. On the same day, Crimean leaders announced that the Russian ruble would begin circulating alongside the Ukrainian hryvnia and would become the only currency in Crimea by Jan. 1.

[Alex1812]

Peace and love in Crimea now [;)]

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Gentlemen, fire up your simulators! Ivan is back! [:D]

[Dimitris]

Question for everyone:

Are you aware of any other digital game that has simulated current events and what-ifs in the Ukraine crisis theater-wide, like Command?

If yes, links are most welcome!

[Pergite!]

I do believe that Rex Brynen on PAXsims have the list covered:

http://paxsims.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/gaming-the-crisis-in-the-ukraine/

[Dimitris]

Modified the question to specify _digital_ game [:)]

[VFA41_Lion]

One of my squadron mates is composing an air campaign for the Ukraine based on an old Jane's Fighter Anthology campaign in Ukraine. Does that count? :p



Creative thought and suspension of disbelief required for this campaign as its set in the Kola terrain.