“I’m worried that he wasn’t."
You made me spit my tea all over my keybord on that one Cuttlefish.
Great writing, Man ....did some Catching up reading. Got a great Laff from the baseball debate on weather they'ed one day play baseball in the USA and be paid "Millions" ... I think you were targeting us Redsox fans with that one [;)].
Small Ship, Big War - The Voyages of the Hibiki
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ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish
Fuel: 475
Orders: See below
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[font="Courier New"]From Headquarters, Combined Fleet, to Lieutenant Commander Ishii Hagumu, commander destroyer Hibiki:
Expedite refueling and resupply. Require Hibiki to arrive Tokyo by 1800 hours 13 April.
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There will be some unhappy sailors with no shore leave. (And Shoji may think he's still delirious when he wakes up in Tokyo harbor . . . [&:])
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RE: Small Ship, Big War
ORIGINAL: Menser
“I’m worried that he wasn’t."
You made me spit my tea all over my keybord on that one Cuttlefish.
Great writing, Man ....did some Catching up reading. Got a great Laff from the baseball debate on weather they'ed one day play baseball in the USA and be paid "Millions" ... I think you were targeting us Redsox fans with that one [;)].
Nah, I wasn't particularily targeting the Red Sox; they hardly have a monopoly on Japanese players in the major leagues. That does bring mind an interesting thought, though, one that I am sure would boggle Captain Ishii's mind. The Sox paid $51,000,000 and change for the bidding rights to Daisuke Matsuzaka in 2006. This translates to roughly $3,250,000 in 1933 dollars, the year Hibiki was launched. This is very possibly more than it cost to build Hibiki. I'm not sure, though, as I haven't been able to find any cost figures for Japanese vessels. Does anyone have any information on those figures?
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RE: Small Ship, Big War
April 13, 1944
Location: Tokyo
Course: None
Attached to: Disbanded in port
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475
Orders: To be determined
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“The Captain is on the bridge,” someone says, glimpsing the captain coming up the ladder well. The bridge crew comes to attention. As Ishii steps on to the bridge he returns the salutes and turns his attention to Lieutenant Sugiyura.
“Yes, Lieutenant, what is it?” he says.
“Sir, you asked to be informed when we entered Tokyo Bay,” says Sugiyaru. “We are doing so now.”
“Very good,” Ishii says. “The time?”
“1640, sir,” comes the reply.
“An hour and twenty minutes to spare,” says Ishii in a satisfied tone. “All right, let’s go see what the fuss is all about.”
Location: Tokyo
Course: None
Attached to: Disbanded in port
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475
Orders: To be determined
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“The Captain is on the bridge,” someone says, glimpsing the captain coming up the ladder well. The bridge crew comes to attention. As Ishii steps on to the bridge he returns the salutes and turns his attention to Lieutenant Sugiyura.
“Yes, Lieutenant, what is it?” he says.
“Sir, you asked to be informed when we entered Tokyo Bay,” says Sugiyaru. “We are doing so now.”
“Very good,” Ishii says. “The time?”
“1640, sir,” comes the reply.
“An hour and twenty minutes to spare,” says Ishii in a satisfied tone. “All right, let’s go see what the fuss is all about.”
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RE: Small Ship, Big War
April 14, 1944
Location: 120 miles east-southeast of Tori Shima
Course: South
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 431
Orders: Shadow enemy forces approaching the Marshall Islands
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The fuss, as it turns out, is over the Marshall Islands. The enemy fleet has finally reappeared. Powerful enemy forces, spearheaded by carrier groups, have been spotted approaching the northern end of the Marshalls from the east. Their exact destination is not yet known, but it does not seem likely that they are coming to distribute leftover Easter baskets to the Japanese troops.
The Combined Fleet, covered by such aircraft carriers as are available, is being sent south. The Japanese ships are ordered to lurk unobserved outside of striking distance and wait to take advantage of any opening the enemy gives them.
Hibiki is attached to one of the carrier groups as an escort. The crew is heartened to see that one of the carriers is their old friend Zuikaku, now fully repaired. The other carrier in the task force is one they have not seen before, Taiho.
The large carrier is an impressive sight and her closed bows give her a graceful appearance. With ten or fifteen such carriers and the pilots to match, the men agree, the Imperial Japanese Navy might be able to sweep the enemy from the Pacific. But they don’t have ten or fifteen of them, just one. The Japanese will have to be careful, while waiting for the enemy to make a mistake, not to make one of their own.
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Task Force 42 (Hibiki and two other DDs not visible):
Location: 120 miles east-southeast of Tori Shima
Course: South
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 431
Orders: Shadow enemy forces approaching the Marshall Islands
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The fuss, as it turns out, is over the Marshall Islands. The enemy fleet has finally reappeared. Powerful enemy forces, spearheaded by carrier groups, have been spotted approaching the northern end of the Marshalls from the east. Their exact destination is not yet known, but it does not seem likely that they are coming to distribute leftover Easter baskets to the Japanese troops.
The Combined Fleet, covered by such aircraft carriers as are available, is being sent south. The Japanese ships are ordered to lurk unobserved outside of striking distance and wait to take advantage of any opening the enemy gives them.
Hibiki is attached to one of the carrier groups as an escort. The crew is heartened to see that one of the carriers is their old friend Zuikaku, now fully repaired. The other carrier in the task force is one they have not seen before, Taiho.
The large carrier is an impressive sight and her closed bows give her a graceful appearance. With ten or fifteen such carriers and the pilots to match, the men agree, the Imperial Japanese Navy might be able to sweep the enemy from the Pacific. But they don’t have ten or fifteen of them, just one. The Japanese will have to be careful, while waiting for the enemy to make a mistake, not to make one of their own.
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Task Force 42 (Hibiki and two other DDs not visible):
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Cuttlefish, any plans to turn this into a pdf when you've finished?
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Minus all of our commentary I assume. [:D]
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Minus all of our commentary I assume. [:D]
Could leave it in as comic relief. [;)]
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RE: Small Ship, Big War
ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish
I'm not sure, though, as I haven't been able to find any cost figures for Japanese vessels. Does anyone have any information on those figures?
Some prices according to Shattered Sword :
Akagi : 53,000,000 yens
Soryu : 40,200,000 yens
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RE: Small Ship, Big War
ORIGINAL: cantona2
Cuttlefish, any plans to turn this into a pdf when you've finished?
I think so. I have had enough requests that I think I will have to do something of the sort. Probably minus the commentary, but that would mostly be to save space; this thing has already gotten huge even with just the daily entries included.
ORIGINAL: Skyland
Some prices according to Shattered Sword :
Akagi : 53,000,000 yens
Soryu : 40,200,000 yens
Thanks for the info, Skyland. The yen traded at roughly two to the dollar back then, so that would make Akagi around $26,500,00. I guess $3,000,000 for a destroyer might be about right, then.
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April 15, 1944
Location: 275 miles southeast of Iwo Jima
Course: South
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 310
Orders: Shadow enemy forces approaching the Marshall Islands
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Shiro finishes carving the last character into the thin piece of wood. He studies his handiwork, polishes one rough spot a little bit, and then looks up.
“It’s done,” he says.
Riku hands him a small brocade bag. The bag is white and has the silhouette of a destroyer sewn into it with red thread. Shiro looks it over.
“This is nice work, Ariga,” he says. “I did not know you were so good with a needle.”
Riku shrugs. “Join the navy and learn new skills,” he says. “Repairing every garment in the cold-weather locker has its advantages.”
Oizuma joins them. “Here is a scale,” he says, “I found it at the bottom of the crate. Hey, Yoshitake, are you done?”
Yoshitake looks up. “I think so, he says. “Here.” He hands Shiro several red silk tassels. Shiro places the wooden charm and the snake scale in the bag, then threads the tassels around the opening and ties it tightly closed.
“It’s a fine omamori*,” he says. “But it still needs to be blessed by a priest.”
“That’s a problem,” Oizuma says. “There aren’t any on board.”
“Then we will have to improvise,” says Riku.
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Captain Ishii is at his desk, reading, when there is a knock at the door. He puts the book down.
“Enter,” he says. The cabin door opens to reveal Lieutenant Miharu.
“There is a delegation to see you, sir,” he says. He looks amused.
“A delegation, eh?” says the captain. “Well, show them in.” Lieutenant Miharu steps back and four sailors duck inside, crowding into the small area. Ishii recognizes Seamen Ariga, Kuramata, Yoshitake, and Oizuma. They salute and stand stiffly at attention.
“Relax,” Ishii says. “What is this about, eh?” The men all look at each other. “Kuramata, you speak.”
Shiro edges forward. “Yes sir,” he says. “It is about Seaman Shoji,” he begins. He goes on to outline the woes of the luckless sailor and the remedy they have undertaken.
“Let me see this omamori,” Captain Ishii says. Shiro hands it to him.
“Very nice,” Ishii says, turning it over in his hand. He knows that opening it once it is tied breaks the charm, so he does not try to do so. “But what do you need me for?”
“We need you to bless it, sir,” says Riku.
“Me?” says the captain. “I am no priest!”
“Yes sir,” says Oizuma. “I mean, no sir. But you are the captain and you can marry people and stuff like that.”
“Captain,” Riku says seriously, “you represent the spirit of this ship. I think your blessing would carry a lot of weight, especially done here at sea. But the important thing is that Seaman Shoji will think so too. If he expects his luck to change it might really change.”
“Hm, I can’t argue with that,” Ishii says. “But what do I do?”
“Just say a few words, sir,” says Shiro. “I expect the spirits will know what you mean.”
“Very well,” says the captain. “But I feel foolish.” He thinks for a moment and then holds up the charm. The four sailors are respectfully silent. “May the spirits of the sea and those that protect men in peril lend their power to this charm.” He looks at the sailors. “Will that do?” He hands the charm back.
“Admirably, sir,” says Riku. “Thank you very much, Captain.”
“Of course,” says Ishii. “I hope it works. I suspect Lieutenant Nakagawa would be glad to see less of Mr. Shoji.”
“Yes sir,” Riku says. The four men salute and then depart, not without some bumping and crowding at the door. After they are gone Ishii shakes his head before taking up his book again. Never make the mistake of thinking you’ve seen everything, he reminds himself.
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*A Japanese good luck charm. This is an omamori bukuro, literally "charm in a brocade bag".
Location: 275 miles southeast of Iwo Jima
Course: South
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 310
Orders: Shadow enemy forces approaching the Marshall Islands
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Shiro finishes carving the last character into the thin piece of wood. He studies his handiwork, polishes one rough spot a little bit, and then looks up.
“It’s done,” he says.
Riku hands him a small brocade bag. The bag is white and has the silhouette of a destroyer sewn into it with red thread. Shiro looks it over.
“This is nice work, Ariga,” he says. “I did not know you were so good with a needle.”
Riku shrugs. “Join the navy and learn new skills,” he says. “Repairing every garment in the cold-weather locker has its advantages.”
Oizuma joins them. “Here is a scale,” he says, “I found it at the bottom of the crate. Hey, Yoshitake, are you done?”
Yoshitake looks up. “I think so, he says. “Here.” He hands Shiro several red silk tassels. Shiro places the wooden charm and the snake scale in the bag, then threads the tassels around the opening and ties it tightly closed.
“It’s a fine omamori*,” he says. “But it still needs to be blessed by a priest.”
“That’s a problem,” Oizuma says. “There aren’t any on board.”
“Then we will have to improvise,” says Riku.
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Captain Ishii is at his desk, reading, when there is a knock at the door. He puts the book down.
“Enter,” he says. The cabin door opens to reveal Lieutenant Miharu.
“There is a delegation to see you, sir,” he says. He looks amused.
“A delegation, eh?” says the captain. “Well, show them in.” Lieutenant Miharu steps back and four sailors duck inside, crowding into the small area. Ishii recognizes Seamen Ariga, Kuramata, Yoshitake, and Oizuma. They salute and stand stiffly at attention.
“Relax,” Ishii says. “What is this about, eh?” The men all look at each other. “Kuramata, you speak.”
Shiro edges forward. “Yes sir,” he says. “It is about Seaman Shoji,” he begins. He goes on to outline the woes of the luckless sailor and the remedy they have undertaken.
“Let me see this omamori,” Captain Ishii says. Shiro hands it to him.
“Very nice,” Ishii says, turning it over in his hand. He knows that opening it once it is tied breaks the charm, so he does not try to do so. “But what do you need me for?”
“We need you to bless it, sir,” says Riku.
“Me?” says the captain. “I am no priest!”
“Yes sir,” says Oizuma. “I mean, no sir. But you are the captain and you can marry people and stuff like that.”
“Captain,” Riku says seriously, “you represent the spirit of this ship. I think your blessing would carry a lot of weight, especially done here at sea. But the important thing is that Seaman Shoji will think so too. If he expects his luck to change it might really change.”
“Hm, I can’t argue with that,” Ishii says. “But what do I do?”
“Just say a few words, sir,” says Shiro. “I expect the spirits will know what you mean.”
“Very well,” says the captain. “But I feel foolish.” He thinks for a moment and then holds up the charm. The four sailors are respectfully silent. “May the spirits of the sea and those that protect men in peril lend their power to this charm.” He looks at the sailors. “Will that do?” He hands the charm back.
“Admirably, sir,” says Riku. “Thank you very much, Captain.”
“Of course,” says Ishii. “I hope it works. I suspect Lieutenant Nakagawa would be glad to see less of Mr. Shoji.”
“Yes sir,” Riku says. The four men salute and then depart, not without some bumping and crowding at the door. After they are gone Ishii shakes his head before taking up his book again. Never make the mistake of thinking you’ve seen everything, he reminds himself.
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*A Japanese good luck charm. This is an omamori bukuro, literally "charm in a brocade bag".
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RE: Small Ship, Big War
I might have the numbers for the german ships of WW2 and of the Z-Plan. I can look into them if you want...Thanks for the info, Skyland. The yen traded at roughly two to the dollar back then, so that would make Akagi around $26,500,00. I guess $3,000,000 for a destroyer might be about right, then.
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That's not a proper blessing. Now this image is a proper blessing.
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Now all they have to do is keep Shoji away from combs, mirrors, ladders, umbrellas...........[:D]
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RE: Small Ship, Big War
April 15, 1944 Location: 275 miles southeast of Iwo Jima Course: South
Making considerably better time than when they were escorting troop ships! (And burning fuel faster, too.) Well, I wish Shoji well with the charm, but judging from your comment about 1944 being the hardest year yet for the Hibiki, someone's luck is due to run out.
Civil war? What does that mean? Is there any foreign war? Isn't every war fought between men, between brothers?
--Victor Hugo
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Now: Wasn't Capt Ishii supposed to clap his hands before the blessing to call the attention of the spirits? Or perhaps you only clap for your ancestors.
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CFs crew should be glad they don't have the luck of the Hibiki in my latest vs AI game. 12-08-41, she gets hammered by Force Z. First ship I lost in the campaign. Hibiki sacrificed itself so that Kongo and Haruna could emerge unscaythed. In the end, Hibiki ate 6 15" and 4 14" Shells. Both PoW and Repulse targeted her and ignored the 2 BBs.
Repulse now rests at the bottom near Kota Bharu...PoW escaped with light damage. The 4 British destroyers were sunk by CA and DD gunfire.
Would have posted the combat report, but I forgot to make a copy before committing my next turn. Ooops!
Thought CF might find that story interesting.
Isn't it amazing how 2 players can have completely different results with the ships we use? CFs Hibiki is golden so far, mine little more than a floating bullseye.
Repulse now rests at the bottom near Kota Bharu...PoW escaped with light damage. The 4 British destroyers were sunk by CA and DD gunfire.
Would have posted the combat report, but I forgot to make a copy before committing my next turn. Ooops!
Thought CF might find that story interesting.
Isn't it amazing how 2 players can have completely different results with the ships we use? CFs Hibiki is golden so far, mine little more than a floating bullseye.
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If Hibiki had to sink though that would be the way to go down. Taking one for the team.... if hibiki had to sink wouldn’t it be better if it sank like that allowing a victory for the Japanese navy? I only wish if Hibiki sinks it could do something like that but this late in the war I fear it would most likely just be a stupid air attack... Rather than a glorious surface action.
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I only wish if Hibiki sinks it could do something like that but this late in the war I fear it would most likely just be a stupid air attack... Rather than a glorious surface action.
You might just get your wish. The Hibiki has been sent a number of times as an escort on a bombardment run. Usually they encounter nothing but PT boats, but given the shift in control of the air, Wolffpack may decide to have heavier surface forces at the scene of his next invasion.
Civil war? What does that mean? Is there any foreign war? Isn't every war fought between men, between brothers?
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I only wish if Hibiki sinks it could do something like that but this late in the war I fear it would most likely just be a stupid air attack... Rather than a glorious surface action.
You might just get your wish. The Hibiki has been sent a number of times as an escort on a bombardment run. Usually they encounter nothing but PT boats, but given the shift in control of the air, Wolffpack may decide to have heavier surface forces at the scene of his next invasion.
I vote for the glorious surface action too, but that is largely out of my control. My biggest fear since the start of the game has been that Hibiki will fall victim to a submarine. But who knows, she might yet survive the war. Considering that several posters have reported losing their Hibiki in the first month of the war, though, I'm pretty happy that mine is still afloat several months into 1944.