Rumble in the Southwest witpqs-A vs Andav-J 2011-11-29 to 2017-02-08

[witpqs]

The way I think about it, there are many adjustments to AV. If the unit makes a good leadership roll (+), if it makes a bad leadership roll (-), if it is in between, no adjustment. Same for any HQ units associated with the unit. I don't see those as directly depending on the enemy. Some things, like terrain or shock, only affect one side. Enemy action affects many things, such as disruption, even during a combat resolution. Leadership, experience, maybe some others I figure can affect both sides independently.

[zuluhour]

interesting take on it, then an obviously good CO could conceivably bungle. I just relieved an SBD CO with an aggression of (22) for not attacking
240nm out on a spotted IJN TF just offshore of Arorae. I wanted to transfer his arse to Nome.[:D]

[witpqs]

I have seen leaders with high ratings get a (-) for that rating, so I know it's all down to die rolls. Better numbers = more often getting better die rolls. 22 aggression is not enough to attack carriers! [:D]

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

I have seen leaders with high ratings get a (-) for that rating, so I know it's all down to die rolls. Better numbers = more often getting better die rolls. 22 aggression is not enough to attack carriers! [:D]

Michael explained that even if the Division/TF leader has good stats, there can be a (-) for individual leaders in the sub groups/ships. Since reading that I give good leaders to my regiments that are going to combine into a Division. Costs a lot in PP but the Divisions always seem to fight well.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: witpqs

I have seen leaders with high ratings get a (-) for that rating, so I know it's all down to die rolls. Better numbers = more often getting better die rolls. 22 aggression is not enough to attack carriers! [:D]

Michael explained that even if the Division/TF leader has good stats, there can be a (-) for individual leaders in the sub groups/ships. Since reading that I give good leaders to my regiments that are going to combine into a Division. Costs a lot in PP but the Divisions always seem to fight well.

I think you misinterpreted that a bit. A combined division has only one leader. He was referring to the HQs that are within range and might contribute to the combat, plus if there are multiple units in combat hex each of them gets its own die roll.

[BBfanboy]

Not totally convinced I got it wrong yet, because after combining it again you can split it into A/B/C thirds and each will have its own leader. I think those leaders are there when the Division is first formed, not assigned when you split it again. Will have to experiment next time I form a Division from Regiments.

I do agree that other units and HQs are part of the possible reasons for modifiers - but as Zuluhour said - it's under the hood so we don't really know which modifiers came from which units. All we can do is try to stack the odds in our favour where possible. Wolverines seem to qualify as an ace up the sleeve ... [:)]

[Rio Bravo]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Overview map.

witpqs-

Interesting map.

Best Regards,

-Terry

[zuluhour]

You know you are gaining the upper hand when you let the AI pick your sea lanes.[;)]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: zuluhour

You know you are gaining the upper hand when you let the AI pick your sea lanes.[;)]

Mostly I don't. The TF you see way up north might be a sub or one that I didn't route carefully enough. Most TFs coming from the West Coast are getting a way point between Hawaii and Midway with orders to return the same way. The Philippine Sea is definitely no-go except for the corridor to Iwo Jima. I got really lucky trapping and blockading so much IJN strength!

[witpqs]

In fact... I think it's a sub heading to SF to withdraw.

[zuluhour]

except for the middle, top, and left side, it looks like my map.[8|]

[witpqs]

1944 September 13

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments
Japanese Ships Bombarding enemy troops at Singkawang

Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate


Our subs tangled with CA Furutaka near Singapore.

Quiet in China.

First Attack at Surat Thani.

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Ground combat at Surat Thani (51,68)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40496 troops, 714 guns, 605 vehicles, Assault Value = 1157

Defending force 15557 troops, 138 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 393

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 746

Japanese adjusted defense: 1641

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), morale(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
759 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 95 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 26 (1 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
710 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 25 (1 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
26th Indian Division
20th Indian Division
5th Indian Division
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
112th Infantry Regiment
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
11th/A Division
11th/C Division
29th Army
32nd Field AA Battalion


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Our troops must rest, but the exchange was heavily in their favor as far as casualties affecting future odds. The armour is catching up at the rate of 1 inch per day. The Sabang invasion will move to one hex from target tomorrow, D-Day the day after. Support troops are just beginning to load at Calcutta so the base will not be up and running right away if it is captured quickly. B-25 groups will begin bombing troops at Sabang tomorrow.

Maneuvering against units trapped north of Saigon continues.

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Ground combat at 62,66 (near Pakse)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3033 troops, 46 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Defending force 2070 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne/B Division
11th Airborne/C Division

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division


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Imperial air strikes ceased at Hanoi today as massive numbers of troops and engineers pulled into the city. Armor and infantry are forming up to cross the river to the NE. The engineers are largely moving to Haiphong for rapid building there while the combat engineering units build Hanoi and sit out the river crossing. Hanoi and Haiphong are both building fortifications to level 3 to guard against spoiling attacks before expanding the airfields (both already size 3).

Further action at Singkawang and Ternate.

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Naval bombardment of Singkawang at 56,88

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Oyodo

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CL Abukuma firing at 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
CL Oyodo firing at 147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment


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Ground combat at Singkawang (56,88)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3454 troops, 48 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 112

Defending force 1214 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Allied adjusted assault: 21

Japanese adjusted defense: 9

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
21th JNAF AF Unit


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Night Naval bombardment of Ternate at 78,102

Allied Ships
CA Prome
CA Baltimore

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for CA Prome
CA Prome firing at Ternate
CA Baltimore firing at Ternate


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4493 troops, 178 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Defending force 4342 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 79

Allied adjusted assault: 22

Japanese adjusted defense: 16

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
169 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
148th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit
11th Special Base Force
2nd JNAF AF Unit


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The IJN took advantage of the withdrawal for replenishment of the USN and bad weather which grounded strike aircraft at Kuching. The latter fact shielded the light cruisers still offshore at Singkawang! Despite that our troops are in good enough shape to continue, with 15% disruption. Normally that would warrant a rest, but there is no real opposition. At Ternate our troops are not even breathing hard.

The great New Guinea - Marianas shuffle continues. Some CV have moved into port at Truk for minor repairs.

Indochina.

[witpqs]

Malay Peninsula.

[witpqs]

Borneo.

[BBfanboy]

witpqs: Our subs tangled with CA Furutaka near Singapore.

What does this mean? A shootout on the surface? Dud torpedoes? Subs hit the anchor chains, pulled up the anchor and caused Furutaka to drift into a tanker? [:D]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

witpqs: Our subs tangled with CA Furutaka near Singapore.

What does this mean? A shootout on the surface? Dud torpedoes? Subs hit the anchor chains, pulled up the anchor and caused Furutaka to drift into a tanker? [:D]

Sadly, it means 4 torpedoes missed and the sub was not detected - they didn't even frighten a lookout!!! [:D]

[witpqs]

1944 September 14

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Singkawang

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate


Our subs had a quiet day.

Quiet in China.

Still chasing buggers near Chiang Mai. Next attack at Surat Thani tomorrow. Landing at Sabang tomorrow.

Still chasing buggers north of Saigon, too.

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Ground combat at 62,66 (near Pakse)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3033 troops, 46 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 280

Defending force 2035 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne/B Division
11th Airborne/A Division
11th Airborne/C Division

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division


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More of the same as reported before at Hanoi and Haiphong. Two more days for all of the divisions at Hanoi assigned to cross NE to transition to combat mode. In those same two days most of the armor that fought at Vinh will make Hanoi and join the NE road trip.

Singkawang is ours. Ternate shall be very soon.

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Ground combat at Singkawang (56,88)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3455 troops, 48 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 111

Defending force 1179 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Allied adjusted assault: 93

Japanese adjusted defense: 11

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Singkawang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), morale(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
496 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
21th JNAF AF Unit


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Night Naval bombardment of Ternate at 78,102

Allied Ships
CA Boston
CA Northampton

Japanese ground losses:
127 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Boston
CA Boston firing at Ternate
CA Northampton firing at Ternate


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Night Naval bombardment of Ternate at 78,102

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma

Japanese ground losses:
191 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

BB Oklahoma firing at Ternate


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4486 troops, 178 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Defending force 3909 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 73

Allied adjusted assault: 42

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
260th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit
11th Special Base Force
2nd JNAF AF Unit


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The 147th will chase down the Japanese pushed out of Singkawang. The 31st, while continuing to take a few disabled squads, actually went down in disruption percentage. Tomorrow's attack might do it, the day after for sure.

Indochina.

[witpqs]

Malay Peninsula.

[witpqs]

Borneo.

[witpqs]

1944 September 15

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Ternate

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:
Sabang

Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:
Allied Ships Bombarding Ternate


Our subs had it easy. Too easy.

Quiet in China.

The invasion of Sabang went well. Surat Thani appears about to fall.

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Ground combat at Sabang (44,70)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1846 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 71

Defending force 10609 troops, 144 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 369

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
35th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
81st (West African) Division


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Ground combat at Surat Thani (51,68)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40102 troops, 714 guns, 605 vehicles, Assault Value = 1101

Defending force 14935 troops, 138 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 320

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 736

Japanese adjusted defense: 359

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
895 casualties reported
Squads: 38 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 13 (11 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
691 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 74 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Assaulting units:
20th Indian Division
26th Indian Division
5th Indian Division
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
112th Infantry Regiment
11th/A Division
11th/C Division
29th Army
32nd Field AA Battalion


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First attack has been ordered for tomorrow at Sabang. The 5th Indian Div will rest at Sabang tomorrow while the others continue to attack.

An Imperial convoy had the temerity to appear near Alor Star.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 50 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter TF.X x 16

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter TF.X: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Malta Maru
xAK Liverpool Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Yamagiku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Beaufighter TF.X launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 59 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter TF.X x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Malta Maru
xAK Liverpool Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Tyoyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Beaufighter TF.X launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 66 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 12
Barracuda II x 15
Corsair II x 24
Hellcat I x 6
Seafire IIC x 4
Martlet II x 11
Wildcat V x 5

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Tyoyo Maru, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Yamagiku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Malta Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Barracuda II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
5 x Barracuda II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
12 x Albacore I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Allied aircraft
Avenger II x 18
Corsair II x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Malta Maru, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
PB Nanei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PB Tatebu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PB Heizan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo



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Our fly boys took the afternoon off!

One more day to head off the enemy running through the jungle and keep him from the road.

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Ground combat at 62,66 (near Pakse)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3033 troops, 46 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 279

Defending force 2053 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne/A Division
11th Airborne/B Division
11th Airborne/C Division

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division


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After tomorrow the armor and infantry charged with the river crossing NE of Hanoi will move out (the remainder of the armor assigned will arrive tomorrow). 3 units and more than 6k troops oppose them. Hanoi has most of the air support it needs and more will arrive before the river crossing. Haiphong airfield is fully supported. In addition to recon, we have 32x Thunderbolt I between the two, 100x P-47D at Hanoi (132 front line fighters for defense and escort), 75x P-47D25 and 50x P-51B at Haiphong. Those are capable of reaching Canton and Hong Kong in regular range with drop tanks and will be the sweepers. Most are resting to repair planes and recover morale from extended operations. Current recon shows 100x fighters at Canton and 44x fighters at Hong Kong.

Infantry has also begun arriving at Haiphong for the river crossing to the E. There is one more division boarding trains at Vinh.

Ternate is liberated!

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Night Naval bombardment of Ternate at 78,102

Allied Ships
CA Prome
CA Baltimore

Japanese ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 16
Port hits 7
Port supply hits 2

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for CA Prome
CA Prome firing at Ternate
CA Baltimore firing at Ternate


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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4465 troops, 178 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 106

Defending force 3730 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 68

Allied adjusted assault: 40

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ternate !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
148th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit
2nd JNAF AF Unit


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The stubborn defenders have taken to the jungle astride the base.

Indochina.