The Power of Inexperience / GreyJoy(A)-Rader(J)

[GreyJoy]

All those kates downed were based at Vella La vella...they kept performing ASW duties and got bucthered by my CAP over my fleet at Rekata...

[DOCUP]

Nice work GJ. Looks like a nice butt whupping op. Ship names USS Hairy Woman and Al Natural.

Whar does the Kurlies look like?

[GreyJoy]

Hi DOCUP,
 
   the Kuriles are partially fortified and partially not. Thinking about it...
 
 
To finish the speech about the Hairy Bull operation... now i have ashore enough of everything to take the base with ease even without air support. 56k supplies are with the troops and his strenght is nowhere close to give me any problem. So we'll halt the landings and send our ships back to safety. Precisely, our APA/AKA and LSTs will move back to Ndeni, with a strong ASW escort (i foresee a global sub offensive for tomorrow), while the less valuable ships will be moved to Tulagi, where a strong CAP umbrella (aided by Auki CAP) will be ordered.
Our CVs will move back, while our surface forces will get to Tulagi, leaving behind only a couple of DD divisions and some PTs.
I don't know i Rader will committ his anti-naval air assets once again...maybe he'll do with a limited range...don't know...however we'll keep a decent LRCAP over Rekata, while the rest of our fighters will guard the TLT position...and if my ships coming back from Rekata will act as baits...the better!
 
For what concerns Treasury...i see two viable options...both risky and expensive.
The first implies the will to try to keep Treasury as an active base. I could send there 100 fighters to provide CAP and, at the same time using 200 C-47s to bring there the needed aviation support. I will also need to send at least a DD division to defend the base from his naval bombardments... the clear risk is to lose the whole lot, so to say my fighter squadrons, the paras and whatever i bring there as a reinforcement.
The second option is to provide some decent LRCAP and try to extract with transport planes as much as possible in the next turn...knowing that i will probably be swept to oblivion first, annihilated by LBA bombers and naval bomabrdment secondly and finally butchered in terms of C-47s by his LRCAP over Treasury...
 
mmmm...gotta think about it twice...

[obvert]

All those kates downed were based at Vella La vella...they kept performing ASW duties and got bucthered by my CAP over my fleet at Rekata...

That's a lot of Kates to knock down in random attacks based on proximity to your fleet. Interesting to note those are B5N1 Kates, the early version. He would have built out his remaining engines from the pool that exists at the beginning of the war, about 100 of them. You're just killed almost half of those planes, probably most of the remaining N1s he has. Not that this is incredibly remarkable, but you probably got some of his best naval ASW pilots in those if they had been around since the beginning of the game in those planes.

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: obvert

All those kates downed were based at Vella La vella...they kept performing ASW duties and got bucthered by my CAP over my fleet at Rekata...

That's a lot of Kates to knock down in random attacks based on proximity to your fleet. Interesting to note those are B5N1 Kates, the early version. He would have built out his remaining engines from the pool that exists at the beginning of the war, about 100 of them. You're just killed almost half of those planes, probably most of the remaining N1s he has. Not that this is incredibly remarkable, but you probably got some of his best naval ASW pilots in those if they had been around since the beginning of the game in those planes.

Let's hope so

However i noticed this is a typical and repeated behaviour of Rader...he doesn't seem to care about losing planes and pilots. For example he has wasted hundreds of Jakes placing them in forward bases (like Thousands) just to get bucthered by my CAP...and this trend has been going on since the beginning...


Oh, on a side note, our beloved 79th RAAF Spit VIII squadron at PM collected its first 2 kills, shooting down 2 Rexes last turn...[8D]

[obvert]

I wonder if this game will grind to a sudden halt in 44 because there are no more available japanese pilot names in the database!

[Miller]

ORIGINAL: Erkki

What, Ki-100 2 years and 3 months advanced?!? [&:]

edit: oops, 15 months actually, forget you guys are playing 1943 already. [:D]

I don't understand how that is possible either, I thought the most you could advance a plane is 3-4 months[&:]

[String]

ORIGINAL: Miller

ORIGINAL: Erkki

What, Ki-100 2 years and 3 months advanced?!? [&:]

edit: oops, 15 months actually, forget you guys are playing 1943 already. [:D]

I don't understand how that is possible either, I thought the most you could advance a plane is 3-4 months[&:]

I think he meant franks?

[Erkki]

ORIGINAL: String

ORIGINAL: Miller

ORIGINAL: Erkki

What, Ki-100 2 years and 3 months advanced?!? [&:]

edit: oops, 15 months actually, forget you guys are playing 1943 already. [:D]

I don't understand how that is possible either, I thought the most you could advance a plane is 3-4 months[&:]

I think he meant franks?

Quote from GreyJoy:

Our sweeps performed greatly (25 P-47s and 18 Corsairs), while my P-38s didn't do well... we faced for the first time the Ki-100, along with Tojos, Nicks, Zeros and Oscars...

He probably meant Ki-84a.

[obvert]

He probably meant Ki-84a.

Isn't that due to arrive normally in 1/44? So if he's had it for a month or so it's not more than a few months advanced.

[princep01]

Reek, on the Treasury assault, nice job. Good use of those paras. You are really showing me some things with paras. I've never gotten deep enough into the game to have enough paras to do much with them, so this is informative. I thank you.

Now, regarding the Treasuary attack, I saw that the Japanese got a minus for "preparation". This would seem to confirm your thought that these were refugees from the lower Solomons. Interesting.

Now, about Tulagi. Someday soon, you may actaully need the troops there for OFFENSIVE action. Have you recently considered killing off those 17K starving chumps that remain there? You may be prepping the Tulagi garrison for other activities, but I would just get rid of those pests if you still have troops there prepped for Tulagi.

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: String

ORIGINAL: Miller

ORIGINAL: Erkki

What, Ki-100 2 years and 3 months advanced?!? [&:]

edit: oops, 15 months actually, forget you guys are playing 1943 already. [:D]

I don't understand how that is possible either, I thought the most you could advance a plane is 3-4 months[&:]

I think he meant franks?

No, i mean the Ki-100 Tony...It comes in 10/43 so it's ok...

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: princep01

Reek, on the Treasury assault, nice job. Good use of those paras. You are really showing me some things with paras. I've never gotten deep enough into the game to have enough paras to do much with them, so this is informative. I thank you.

Now, regarding the Treasuary attack, I saw that the Japanese got a minus for "preparation". This would seem to confirm your thought that these were refugees from the lower Solomons. Interesting.

Now, about Tulagi. Someday soon, you may actaully need the troops there for OFFENSIVE action. Have you recently considered killing off those 17K starving chumps that remain there? You may be prepping the Tulagi garrison for other activities, but I would just get rid of those pests if you still have troops there prepped for Tulagi.

Bolton, my master, paras can be usefull in certain circumstances. But imho they need to be helped by the bombers.

About Tulagi...i've already moved out the 2 infantry units (the 37th and the 3rd Marine) that were defending Tulagi. They have been used recently on Auki and will soon be available for next operations. The base is guarded by a sep regiment and by 2 marine def BNs...enough[;)]

I'm not hurry to destroy those 17,000 men...they are harmless after being cut out of any supply for 12 months and after being bombed to death...but untill they are there Rader cannot rebuild his divisions...and that means 17,000 men less that i will find on my way to Japan...

Same for Thousands and Russell. My plan is to enforce a total blocackade and bomb them to starvation...but i won't invade them...need to jump forward


Now...what to do with Treasury?..still undecided....[&:] Any thoughts?

[Erkki]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: String

ORIGINAL: Miller




I don't understand how that is possible either, I thought the most you could advance a plane is 3-4 months[&:]

I think he meant franks?

No, i mean the Ki-100 Tony...It comes in 10/43 so it's ok...

Are you 100% positive it was Ki-100-I "Tony/Hien"? Thats a 3/45 plane. Not a particularly good one, like a heavily armed service rating 1 Ki-61 and as such nowhere as good as Ki-84, in actual combat at least...

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: Erkki

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: String




I think he meant franks?

No, i mean the Ki-100 Tony...It comes in 10/43 so it's ok...

Are you 100% positive it was Ki-100-I "Tony/Hien"? Thats a 3/45 plane. Not a particularly good one, like a heavily armed service rating 1 Ki-61 and as such nowhere as good as Ki-84, in actual combat at least...

This one...and yes, i'm positive it was this one. I have screenshots and combat reports

[Erkki]

Ok. Interesting - you're not seeing any Ki-61s but a plane they upgrade to far in the future if the plane hadnt been accelerated. Looks like Rader has chosen the Ki-100 to be his service rating 1 frontline fighter for the late war instead of Ki-44-IIc or some other design, and that he keeps building both the service rating 1 fighters as well as the high performance service rate 3 ones. You can probably expect to see the N1K2-J soon...

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: princep01




I'm not hurry to destroy those 17,000 men...they are harmless after being cut out of any supply for 12 months and after being bombed to death...but untill they are there Rader cannot rebuild his divisions...and that means 17,000 men less that i will find on my way to Japan...

Same for Thousands and Russell. My plan is to enforce a total blocackade and bomb them to starvation...but i won't invade them...need to jump forward.


Now...what to do with Treasury?..still undecided....[&:] Any thoughts?

Yep, using FT and air transport, he can never pull out his heavy equipment. Even with most all the infantry saved, a infantry division is very weak without heavy support.

Greyjoy, Goodenough and or Kiriwina are good places to take and hold. Milne bay is a great forward naval base and I found holding these two bases support Milne bay and with mines, help block naval bombardments of Milne.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Erkki

Ok. Interesting - you're not seeing any Ki-61s but a plane they upgrade to far in the future if the plane hadnt been accelerated. Looks like Rader has chosen the Ki-100 to be his service rating 1 frontline fighter for the late war instead of Ki-44-IIc or some other design, and that he keeps building both the service rating 1 fighters as well as the high performance service rate 3 ones. You can probably expect to see the N1K2-J soon...

Are you using the betas? There was a bug with one of the mid patches (somewhere around p) where I think the Japanese player could exploit it and rapidly advance plane research. You should ask Rader it he did this.

[jeffk3510]

I see Rader is complaining about ground bombing... hmm, you must be doing something right GJ... Keep it up! I've always thought those who are getting whooped usually start complaining about something.

[soticrandy]

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

I see Rader is complaining about ground bombing... hmm, you must be doing something right GJ... Keep it up! I've always thought those who are getting whooped usually start complaining about something.

bombing and PT boats...good work GreyJoy