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RE: Macassar falls!

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Watch your unloading of oil and resources there. I'm not sure what happens if you try to unload oil or resources and there's 999,999 in port.

I track my oil/resource levels pretty closely and try to increase the levels in each level. Currently I have 7 months of reserves at each region.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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True Mike, actually I wasn't aware of how much resources and oil I had in Sasebo.
It's usually distributed out, but I've been bringing in all the reserves my ships can carry over the last two months.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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I usually spread the convoys out a bit. You are right though about the movement of resources and oil. Sasebo seems to be the last place the AI moves resources and oil from though.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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Please excuse Pauk San Samurai Przemcio231, he's very touchy regarding issues that concern the welfare of the Empire [:D]


Well the Welfare of the Empire under my Command is assured[:'(][;)]

Any way PzB what are your experiences with G4m2 as those will appear in Production in a month[:)] I plan to start the AAR with Zeta but when we reach 1944 or some action will be taking place[:)]
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RE: Macassar falls!

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As far as I know the G4M2e Ohka carriers doesn't work... They only achieve near misses.
Like so many other wonder weapons...real and imagined [8|]
Must admit that I feel the bugs favor the Allies by a margin though! [:-]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/22/44

Sub/ASW Attacks

Sub attack at 33,50

Japanese Ships
AK Heiei Maru #7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire : empty, slight damage
PG Kaikei Maru
PG Tamo Maru #6
MSW Kaiyo Maru #3
MSW Choun Maru #6
MSW Wa 14
MSW Wa 12
MSW Wa 10

Allied Ships
SS Haddo
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Air Combat

Our training camps are at full capacity again. We're finally receiving numerous
new interceptor units. In a little while we should be able to cause Andy's aviators
a lot of grief again! [8D]

Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 122
J2M Jack x 48
G4M2 Betty x 50
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 144
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 271
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 384
J2M Jack x 26
D4Y Judy x 62
B6N Jill x 36
B7A Grace x 26
G4M1 Betty x 26
G4M2 Betty x 44
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 35
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 108

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 529
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Macassar

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29824 troops, 216 guns, 202 vehicles, Assault Value = 649

Defending force 3907 troops, 10 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 91

Allied max assault: 534 - adjusted assault: 224

Japanese max defense: 51 - adjusted defense: 21

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
596 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Pamakasan - all our strike ac stayed home...have to try again tomorrow!

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1507 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43

Defending force 460 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Japanese max assault: 23 - adjusted assault: 11

Allied max defense: 20 - adjusted defense: 9

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
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RE: Macassar falls!

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I have noticed that I can't draw replacement aircraft and pilots to air units in bases with less than 20k supplies!
It isn't always like this, and it makes me wonder.... Most annoying. Does anyone know the reason for this and whether this
is how it should be?

Got some plans for the last phase of the war: If Andy lands anywhere near Formosa or Okinawa I will pull all my base force units
in China closer to the coast and make it possible to launch massive strikes against the enemy. There aren't that many large aviation
units in the Home Islands, surprisingly few actually. Shouldn't there be more 'fixed' base forces in the major cities?
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RE: Macassar falls!

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ORIGINAL: PzB

I have noticed that I can't draw replacement aircraft and pilots to air units in bases with less than 20k supplies!
It isn't always like this, and it makes me wonder.... Most annoying. Does anyone know the reason for this and whether this
is how it should be?


Lol i noticed this in my pbem, i was pretty sure it wasnt like that pre 1.8, although i think having a Air HQ at the base means you dont have to have 20k supplies.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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Unfortunately Air HQ doesn't have anythign to do with it either...dropped down to 19991 supplies on Clark Field with Air HQ and
suddenly I didn't get any replacements anymore *grumble*

Not long ago I pulled replacement ac from an isolated base in Northern NG with 190 supplies with no Air HQ.
Me thinks this may be an issue...
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RE: Macassar falls!

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Hmmm im pretty sure im drawing supplies from Tarawa with has under 20k, i suppose its kind of realistic, in the sense that an isolated base in Northen NG would not be able to replace pilot or plane losses.

But it obviously doesnt always work like that, as the Allied side can do the same to a newly conquered base thats still has Japanese holdouts and is hundereds of miles from the nearest Allied base, as long as they throw enough supplies at it.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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IIRC if the airgroup is also in range of the HQ (Base HQ I believe) then they can also draw planes and pilots.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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Unfortunately I find no hold in the Air HQ base rule either. Even bases with Air HQs and 19k supplies
refuse to provide replacement ac. In the Palaus Yap got 19500 supplies and Palau got an Air HQ with a range of 5 hexes.
Have to move more supplies in to reinforce my air units.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/23/44

Air Combat

Several strange things happened today: Firstly our old bug were kamikaze ac
joins a ground strike and kills themselves... 15 Zekes, Grace and Jill on kami missions
joined a ground strike on Pamakasan and killed themselves.

Joe, this bug you must fix. Will send you a mail if you don't read this.

Day Air attack on Pamakasan , at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 22
N1K1-J George x 13
B6N Jill x 7
B7A Grace x 8
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses - vely funny [8|]
A6M5 Zeke: 19 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
B6N Jill: 7 destroyed
B7A Grace: 8 destroyed
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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First combat missions for the Peggy bomber: 1 got damaged by a Hellcat.

Day Air attack on 4th USMC Para Battalion, at 24,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 16
G4M2 Betty x 20
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 18
Ki-67 Peggy x 15

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed
Ki-67 Peggy: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
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This is the kind of attacks I like: 16 Grace from the West of Timor hits an enemy fast transport TF! [8D]

Day Air attack on TF at 33,76

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Arunta
DD Stockham
APD Gregory, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD Rathburne
APD Clemson, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Ground Combat

Nice little morale victory today! We recaptured Pamakasan and captured 500 US
Marine paras! Even though Andy is trying to draw out my reserves, I'm still in favor
of the immediate counter-attack doctrine. Hit back before the enemy can re-group and
prepare solid defenses.

Ground combat at Macassar

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30198 troops, 215 guns, 218 vehicles, Assault Value = 652

Defending force 3077 troops, 2 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Allied max assault: 578 - adjusted assault: 290

Japanese max defense: 29 - adjusted defense: 15

Allied assault odds: 19 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
303 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
73 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Ground combat at Pamakasan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1501 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 360 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese max assault: 52 - adjusted assault: 88

Allied max defense: 14 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pamakasan base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
534 casualties reported
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Macassar

Enemy Carriers in the Java Sea

Bad weather covered Soerabaja/Pamakasan and the enemy carrier TF today. Perfect timing
for once. Instead of sacrificing my naval bombers I spread them out, disband TFs and order
all other ships to move away. Soerabaja got 120 fighters, Palembang 200. Let Andy grit his
teeth on our defenses if he wish to.

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RE: Macassar falls!

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Hi John,
 
Maybe you misunderstood what I mean:
 
I believe if an Air unit is in range of the BASE HQ then it will receive replacements. For example if a base is assigned to China Exp Force and the air units are in range of China Exp. Force Base HQ then they will receive replacements.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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I have a area HQ, Southern Area Army, and a base which is inside its command radius, but under 20k Supplies and i could only draw some pilots.

I was wrong on Tarawa i have over 20k supplies there, until Robs bombers hit it anyway..
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RE: Macassar falls!

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Hm, the strange thing is that I have seen air units loose and obtain their ability to receive replacements
in the same bases with the same HQs for a long time - and I've not moved their Base HQs. Thinking of China here, very
static stand off.

In this game ALL air units in bases with less than 20k supplies can currently not receive replacements. Don't think
this should be the case as I have concentrated my Base HQs in tight defensive boxes by now. Southern Area Army
has a range of 8 hexes!
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RE: Macassar falls!

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I agree with you. Unless a base has 20k supply, an air unit can't receive replacement aircraft. I'm at a low point in China and no base has 20k supply. I can't get any replacement aircraft anywhere in China.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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Hm i thought it was somthing i was doing wrong, seems its a new feature. I Kept on asking myself whether it was that i needed 3x or 4x the amount of the supply, this is ridiculous to expect the Japanese player keep 20k supplies in every base with a squadron or so of planes.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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ORIGINAL: Manual, 15.2

Air units will automatically gain replacements under certain circumstances if aircraft our available
in the replacement pool and the air unit has been set to Accept Replacements. To get
replacement aircraft to flow automatically into an air unit, there must be planes in the pool and
one of the following cases must be true (the first true will take effect):
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  • The air unit is located at a base and the base has over 20000 supplies. Supplies will be
    expended at the base and the unit will receive damaged planes from the pool (they may
    repair before the next orders phase during the repair phase).
  • The air unit is located at a base and the HQ that the base is assigned to is within transfer
    range of the air unit’s aircraft type and the HQ is located at a base that has over 20000
    supplies. Supplies will be expended at the HQ’s base and the unit will receive damaged
    planes from the pool.
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RE: Macassar falls!

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Hmm, never remember it being like that, ive always remembered it being somthing along the lines of having to have 3x or 4x the required supplies.

Meh.....
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RE: Macassar falls!

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That's how I thought it should be VSWG. It's just a bit strange that Ulithi with more than 20k supplies
and the Southern Area HQ can't provide replacements for my air groups at Yap with 19.5 supplies. Have to double
check next turn.

The problem isn't so much supplies as the inability to MOVE supplies into a base.

As I believed he would, Andy moved his carrier TF north into the Java Sea.
I counter by placing 48 Zeke FBs on kami attack in a nearby base. Any further incursion will be met by a
heavy CAP and suicide attacks!!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/24/44

Invasions

TF 1036 troops unloading over beach at Wotje, 82,79

Allied ground losses:
620 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Andy hit oil facilities at Tarakan...not sure why: I would never move my tankers
that close to Balikpapan!

Day Air attack on Tarakan , at 33,61

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 139

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 destroyed

Oil hits 27
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We finish the second APD that was hit yesterday...

Day Air attack on TF at 34,78

Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
APD Gregory, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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CVEs in the area....

Day Air attack on TF at 32,75

Japanese aircraft
B7A Grace x 3

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
FM-2 Wildcat x 70

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A Grace: 1 destroyed
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Leaky CAP cost us 13 Oscars... Andy moves his carrier TF to the middle of Batavia and Palembang.
Hi finds an empty cargo TF that didn't reach Palembang.

Day Air attack on TF at 21,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 13

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 27
F4U-1D Corsair x 27
SB2C Helldiver x 38
TBM Avenger x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Yamaoka Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.22, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ch 17
AK Sanju Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Sansho Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Oyashima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 21,56

Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 10
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 22

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 3 destroyed
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Ground Combat

Andy finally invades Wotje! The place has had no supply for a year and I'm tired of it being bombed....
Perhaps its fall will release my 9 pilots trapped there with its damaged ac fragment [8|]

Ground combat at Macassar

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30107 troops, 213 guns, 216 vehicles, Assault Value = 716

Defending force 557 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Allied max assault: 593 - adjusted assault: 309

Japanese max defense: 12 - adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 309 to 1

Japanese ground losses:
77 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
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Looks like Banjarmasin is next! With 3-4 forts it won't hold for long.

Ground combat at Banjarmasin

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31781 troops, 383 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 964

Defending force 24386 troops, 175 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 385

Japanese ground losses:
208 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
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Wotje's 9 forts delays its fall for a day!

Ground combat at Wotje

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4513 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 305

Defending force 4220 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 65

Allied max assault: 302 - adjusted assault: 21

Japanese max defense: 32 - adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 9)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Macassar
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RE: Macassar falls!

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That's how I thought it should be VSWG. It's just a bit strange that Ulithi with more than 20k supplies
and the Southern Area HQ can't provide replacements for my air groups at Yap with 19.5 supplies. Have to double
check next turn.
I think Yap is assigned to Southeast Fleet, not Southern Area HQ. You might want to check that.
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