Rumble in the Southwest witpqs-A vs Andav-J 2011-11-29 to 2017-02-08

[witpqs]

So that portion would change to:

[witpqs]

1944 September 21

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:
Surat Thani

There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:



Our subs were locked out.

Quiet in China.

Surat Thani is ours. Both pockets near Chiang Mai are taking damage.

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Ground combat at Surat Thani (51,68)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 40813 troops, 714 guns, 789 vehicles, Assault Value = 1667

Defending force 11937 troops, 119 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Allied adjusted assault: 979

Japanese adjusted defense: 121

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Surat Thani !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4319 casualties reported
Squads: 109 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 112 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 60 (55 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 46 (46 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
26th Indian Division
20th Indian Division
18th Cavalry Regiment
Gardner's Horse Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
254th Armoured Brigade
5th Indian Division
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
11th/A Division
11th/C Division
32nd Field AA Battalion
29th Army
112th Infantry Regiment
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment


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Ground combat at 60,51 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21897 troops, 394 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 479

Defending force 10075 troops, 37 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 186

Allied adjusted assault: 440

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 110 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1186 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 86 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
29th Division


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Ground combat at 59,53 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12827 troops, 145 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 322

Defending force 8853 troops, 12 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 166

Allied adjusted assault: 209

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 29 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)
morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
329 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
22nd (East African) Brigade
1st Burma Brigade
2nd Burma Brigade
2/15 Punjab Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
14th LRP Brigade

Defending units:
53rd Division


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All of our units are pursuing SE of Surat Thani. Other units will rail in as they exit. The attacks on the pockets near Chiang Mai will continue tomorrow.

And still maneuvering against trapped units north of Saigon.

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Ground combat at 62,66 (near Pakse)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3033 troops, 46 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 1908 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne/C Division

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division


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Either three or all four infantry divisions at Haiphong will cross the river tomorrow. A second unit, with guns only, has appeared at our crossing hex NE of Hanoi. Our artillery will arrive tomorrow and all units will attack the day after. I suspect that this is an effort to use the Empire's best AT weapons so artillery and infantry support will be massive.

Ternate is secured!

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Ground combat at Ternate (78,102)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4381 troops, 178 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 99

Defending force 3107 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Allied adjusted assault: 78

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 78 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
318 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
31st Infantry Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
205th Field Artillery Battalion
871st Aviation Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
12th Garrison Unit



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Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Ternate

Finally!!!

It's starting to look like I might have enough attack transport to lift all of the Nago and Naha invasion forces at the same time. It'll be tight, but I think we can do it. Loading will be during the first week in October, with about a 1 week journey to Okinawa.

Indochina.

[witpqs]

Malay Peninsula & Sumatra.

[JocMeister]

Its a long jump without Luzon! Good luck!

PS. I found it really difficult to stage a full fledged bombing campaign from the Okinawas. And I could easily rotate units in and out from level 9 AFs on Luzon. You really need a level 9 AF within normal B29 range from the HI. Even better would be one within B24 range.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Its a long jump without Luzon! Good luck!

PS. I found it really difficult to stage a full fledged bombing campaign from the Okinawas. And I could easily rotate units in and out from level 9 AFs on Luzon. You really need a level 9 AF within normal B29 range from the HI. Even better would be one within B24 range.

Thanks - but it will be a bit before they can load up and shove off.

I think that Formosa will provide size 9 airfields even closer than Luzon. I agree that the area covered by the Okinawa operation is not super airfield territory. I think only Naha can go to size 8; everything else is smaller to one degree or another (I think, the details slip my mind). But it does provide a lot of airfields in a good spot. Good to some degree for bombing the Home Islands, but also for really cutting the SLOC west of Japan and for supporting the invasion of the HI. Once the other airfields are built up to handle fighters, recon, search, and anti-shipping duties, Naha could be dedicated to B-24s. Maybe even another airfield. That would spread out the CAP.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: witpqs
Thanks - but it will be a bit before they can load up and shove off.

I think that Formosa will provide size 9 airfields even closer than Luzon. I agree that the area covered by the Okinawa operation is not super airfield territory. I think only Naha can go to size 8; everything else is smaller to one degree or another (I think, the details slip my mind). But it does provide a lot of airfields in a good spot. Good to some degree for bombing the Home Islands, but also for really cutting the SLOC west of Japan and for supporting the invasion of the HI. Once the other airfields are built up to handle fighters, recon, search, and anti-shipping duties, Naha could be dedicated to B-24s. Maybe even another airfield. That would spread out the CAP.

Yeah, Formosa is real nice. Lots of 50 VP multipliers for the Allies too. [:)]

It will be a very tight fit on Okinawa. I severely overstacked my bomber bases on many, many occasions. I would look at Formosa and/or Luzon. Not only do you need big AFs you will need a big port pretty soon. You will need to ship in about 1 million supply per month once things really take off. And for that you need a big port close at hand! Manila is very nice to have with its repair yard. [:)]

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

It will be a very tight fit on Okinawa. I severely overstacked my bomber bases on many, many occasions. I would look at Formosa and/or Luzon. Not only do you need big AFs you will need a big port pretty soon. You will need to ship in about 1 million supply per month once things really take off. And for that you need a big port close at hand! Manila is very nice to have with its repair yard. [:)]

I think witpqs plans to take Pescadores along with Formosa - big port, airfield and shipyards![:)]

[witpqs]

And Hong Kong!* [:D]



* When I get there...

[witpqs]

I've put up a new version of that LCU invasion planning tool. Only made changes to the headers and to the documentation. In the doc file there is a summary of the unload rates noted in the manual.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByVleYydeDVcQW5NVFc4V0g1Qkk

Four files, but the .py file is optional (only if you want to see the source code).

[Drakanel]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

And Hong Kong!* [:D]



* When I get there...

Let's make things simple. You plan to present us a global map with only green dots. Right? [:D]

[HansBolter]

Shanghai for the win!

[witpqs]

1944 September 22

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:



Our subs were invisible.

Quiet in China.

Both progress and tough slogging near Chiang Mai.

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Ground combat at 60,51 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21787 troops, 393 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 468

Defending force 8955 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 88

Allied adjusted assault: 276

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 69 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
401 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
29th Division


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Ground combat at 59,53 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12807 troops, 145 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 321

Defending force 8533 troops, 8 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 134

Allied adjusted assault: 166

Japanese adjusted defense: 7

Allied assault odds: 23 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
457 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
391 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
2/15 Punjab Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
2nd Burma Brigade
22nd (East African) Brigade
1st Burma Brigade
14th LRP Brigade

Defending units:
53rd Division


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Who ARE those guys?? The two Bn against the 53rd Division will stand down, and one Bde is near ready to. Trying to keep too many disabled squads from being in combat because those are the ones most likely to be destroyed. At least the 53rd Division is totally surrounded and can be worn down as slowly as need be. The 29th Division is still moving but is disintegrating much faster.

The crossing east of Haiphong went quite well.

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Ground combat at 62,66 (near Pakse)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3033 troops, 46 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 1872 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne/C Division

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division


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Ground combat at 69,57 (near Haiphong)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 48479 troops, 754 guns, 438 vehicles, Assault Value = 1457

Defending force 9231 troops, 42 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Allied adjusted assault: 1572

Japanese adjusted defense: 331

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
3821 casualties reported
Squads: 103 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 67 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 21 (15 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
390 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
7th Australian Division
81st Infantry Division
2nd Australian Division

Defending units:
13th Ind.Infantry Brigade
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
58th Infantry Regiment


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Now our hand has been shown it seems DAW HQ has ordered a withdrawal from in front of Lang Son. Our main body, NE of Hanoi, will clear the small blocking force tomorrow, then move SE down the road and attack east into Lang Son. The four divisions that just crossed the river will march east, two trying to get behind Lang Son and two will move through the jungle to Pakhoi. It will not be quiet in China much longer.

The invasion of Sandakan is boarding at Beaufort. There might be a starving armoured units there, but the Torres Strait Bn is equal to the task.

A batch of 10x CVE that have just finished AA upgrades is leaving Pearl Harbor for Guam. A batch of 9x CVE is about a week away from Pearl Harbor for their upgrades.

Indochina.

[witpqs]

Malay Peninsula & Sumatra.

[witpqs]

Intel screen.

[Rafid]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Who ARE those guys??

Look on the bright side: You prefer fighting that kind of division isolated and out of supply in the middle of nowhere, instead of e.g. on Okinawa.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Rafid

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Who ARE those guys??

Look on the bright side: You prefer fighting that kind of division isolated and out of supply in the middle of nowhere, instead of e.g. on Okinawa.

Oh, yeah, that's for sure! Might have been some like them on Truk. Not good for timetables, casualty counts, device pools, supply, air ops losses... [:D]

[witpqs]

1944 September 23

The Empire captured:


The Allies captured:


There were Imperial amphibious or airborne operations at:


There were Allied amphibious or airborne operations at:


Imperial Naval Bombardments


Allied Naval Bombardments:



Our subs had no action again.

Quiet in China, but over China was a different story. P-51B and P-47 D25 sweeps of Canton took down between 3 and 4 times as many enemy planes as were lost.

More progress near Chiang Mai.

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Ground combat at 60,51 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21714 troops, 393 guns, 242 vehicles, Assault Value = 461

Defending force 8511 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Allied adjusted assault: 346

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 86 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
291 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
23rd Indian Division
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
29th Division


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Ground combat at 59,53 (near Chiang Mai)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10769 troops, 114 guns, 49 vehicles, Assault Value = 288

Defending force 8179 troops, 7 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 100

Allied adjusted assault: 174

Japanese adjusted defense: 4

Allied assault odds: 43 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
778 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 56 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
2/15 Punjab Battalion
2nd Burma Brigade
2/17 Dogra Battalion
22nd (East African) Brigade
1st Burma Brigade
14th LRP Brigade

Defending units:
53rd Division


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The 81st West African Division has made contact with the ex-Sabang Imperials and will attack tomorrow. South of Surat Thani the Sherman V equipped 18th Cavalry Rgt is first to catch the withdrawing enemy units there and will attack alone tomorrow to get the ball rolling.

Our main body is on the move.

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Ground combat at 62,66 (near Pakse)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3025 troops, 46 guns, 18 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Defending force 1870 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Assaulting units:
11th Airborne/C Division

Defending units:
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
33rd Division


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Ground combat at 68,55 (near Hanoi)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 67731 troops, 1153 guns, 1775 vehicles, Assault Value = 2567

Defending force 558 troops, 21 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Allied adjusted assault: 1382

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 1382 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 20 (20 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 44 (44 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 34 (11 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Assaulting units:
192nd Tank Battalion
31st Infantry Division
706th Tank Battalion
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
2/4th Armoured Regiment
5th Australian Division
2/6th Armoured Regiment
775th Tank Battalion
4th Armoured Brigade
124th Cavalry Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st Australian Division
96th Infantry Division
711th Tank Battalion
671th Tank Destroyer Battalion
9th Australian Division
2/1st Med Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
1st Medium Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment
251st Field Artillery Battalion
134th (East Ang) Regiment

Defending units:
13th Tank Regiment
17th RF Gun Battalion


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The main body will head SE to the hex between Hanoi and Lang Son, then into Lang Son. Smaller units will free Lao Cai and keep the two IJA infantry Rgts withdrawing in that direction from getting comfortable.

Recon shows that Probolinggo, our chosen entry point onto Java, is empty. The 44% prepared 1st Australian Para Bn will begin dropping there tomorrow from a small group of 12x C-47 transports. Ships are scrambling to go pickup other units but so much transport being thrown into the Okinawa operation has limited available options.

Indochina.

[witpqs]

Malay Peninsula & Sumatra.

[witpqs]

Today's air losses.

[Lowpe]

Coupe de main south of Lang Son! Oh my![X(]