
Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
The Vals finally found the important ships toward the end of the day, and knocked 3 x 250kg into Northampton plus one into Boise. Haven't seen the final damage yet. I hope they can still get out and away. Fingers crossed.


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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
Some Cats tried a torpedo attack on the Haruna and Furataka, but no luck. Damn!


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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
Vincents all the way from NZ gave it the old college try, but no luck.


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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
Some Beasts did their job though and put another CL in jeopardy.


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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
I haven't been following too closely, but it appears that you're going all out to try to cripple the IJN surface force right off the bat?
I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct?
Very interesting gameplay.
I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct?
Very interesting gameplay.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
Finally, up North the Japanese try for Kiska, where a small portion of a US regiment sits waiting. We'll see what they've got tomorrow.
The IJN CVs look to be supporting. The US CVs are still lurking, thinking, looking for a decent opportunity. Best kept in the dark, under a storm cloud, far over the horizon for now.

The IJN CVs look to be supporting. The US CVs are still lurking, thinking, looking for a decent opportunity. Best kept in the dark, under a storm cloud, far over the horizon for now.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
ORIGINAL: paullus99
I haven't been following too closely, but it appears that you're going all out to try to cripple the IJN surface force right off the bat?
I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct?
Very interesting gameplay.
Well, I had a plan to use the Kbs known position at PH for a week to move the USN CVs to raid Cent Pac and then on to the DEI to hit oil and delay some invasions. It turned bigger than that when he stayed longer than expected. I extracted the USN from PH and ran everything West. It was going well until I made a poor choice to roll the dice and stay one extra day in the Macassar straits in the hope of extracting the PoW and hitting his injured ships at Balikpapan. i didn't spot several TFs arriving, and got caught. A week later and two CVs under. [:(]
Still battling though, and although that is a massive negative, about 100 points of oil has been taken off, numerous IJN ships severely damaged or sunk (for a larger tithe of Allied ships unfortunately), but we're still fighting here and hopefully delaying next level moves in several ways.
It's been fun, and I've learned a ton. I'm not cavalier about the Allied forces and obvious advantage of massive later replacements, but think the value of the goal here is more important than a late 42 goal of moving forward in the Pacific.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
I think you'll be fine. Those early DD losses will hurt Lowpe and that may influence his task force compositions moving forward. Perhaps some future invasion task forces will be under escorted and provide you plenty of opportunities to interdict.
I think the losses you've sustained are worth it. You've already started the attrition of the Japanese surface forces far sooner than I'm sure Lowpe would like.
I think the losses you've sustained are worth it. You've already started the attrition of the Japanese surface forces far sooner than I'm sure Lowpe would like.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate.
Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see?
No messages. Just a hit. No extras. [:(]
I'd be surprised if she even needed yard time, then. Typically those kinds of hits on BBs result in a couple points of System and maybe a point or two of major flooding, and a handful of minor flooding (maybe).
RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: paullus99
I haven't been following too closely, but it appears that you're going all out to try to cripple the IJN surface force right off the bat?
I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct?
Very interesting gameplay.
Well, I had a plan to use the Kbs known position at PH for a week to move the USN CVs to raid Cent Pac and then on to the DEI to hit oil and delay some invasions. It turned bigger than that when he stayed longer than expected. I extracted the USN from PH and ran everything West. It was going well until I made a poor choice to roll the dice and stay one extra day in the Macassar straits in the hope of extracting the PoW and hitting his injured ships at Balikpapan. i didn't spot several TFs arriving, and got caught. A week later and two CVs under. [:(]
Still battling though, and although that is a massive negative, about 100 points of oil has been taken off, numerous IJN ships severely damaged or sunk (for a larger tithe of Allied ships unfortunately), but we're still fighting here and hopefully delaying next level moves in several ways.
It's been fun, and I've learned a ton. I'm not cavalier about the Allied forces and obvious advantage of massive later replacements, but think the value of the goal here is more important than a late 42 goal of moving forward in the Pacific.
Honestly, it may be a net benefit to you as you'll be less prone to succumbing to unnecessary risks until you get the Essexes [;)].
RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon
I think you'll be fine. Those early DD losses will hurt Lowpe and that may influence his task force compositions moving forward. Perhaps some future invasion task forces will be under escorted and provide you plenty of opportunities to interdict.
I think the losses you've sustained are worth it. You've already started the attrition of the Japanese surface forces far sooner than I'm sure Lowpe would like.
Thanks Joe. I hope you're right. A lot of DD have been sunk, and that will hurt. I hope too that the need to add supply to fix more damaged oil could reduce options for both next level plans and delay R & D spending. We'll see!
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
The ship names displayed in animations and combat reports are always, always, always 100% accurate.
Whether that torpedo did any damage is another matter [;)]. What damage messages did you see?
No messages. Just a hit. No extras. [:(]
I'd be surprised if she even needed yard time, then. Typically those kinds of hits on BBs result in a couple points of System and maybe a point or two of major flooding, and a handful of minor flooding (maybe).
She did take two earlier, so I'm hoping she needs some yard time!!
I've got a good 10 subs in the area and vectoring in, so hopefully I can tell a bit by how fast she moves and where, and get them in to try for another 1-2. [:)]
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: paullus99
I haven't been following too closely, but it appears that you're going all out to try to cripple the IJN surface force right off the bat?
I guess, based on what you know you've got for mid-war reinforcements, you're not all that concerned with your own losses, correct?
Very interesting gameplay.
Well, I had a plan to use the Kbs known position at PH for a week to move the USN CVs to raid Cent Pac and then on to the DEI to hit oil and delay some invasions. It turned bigger than that when he stayed longer than expected. I extracted the USN from PH and ran everything West. It was going well until I made a poor choice to roll the dice and stay one extra day in the Macassar straits in the hope of extracting the PoW and hitting his injured ships at Balikpapan. i didn't spot several TFs arriving, and got caught. A week later and two CVs under. [:(]
Still battling though, and although that is a massive negative, about 100 points of oil has been taken off, numerous IJN ships severely damaged or sunk (for a larger tithe of Allied ships unfortunately), but we're still fighting here and hopefully delaying next level moves in several ways.
It's been fun, and I've learned a ton. I'm not cavalier about the Allied forces and obvious advantage of massive later replacements, but think the value of the goal here is more important than a late 42 goal of moving forward in the Pacific.
Honestly, it may be a net benefit to you as you'll be less prone to succumbing to unnecessary risks until you get the Essexes [;)].
It's true I won't be tempted to fight he KB directly until late 43 now! As in my previous Allied game it's going to be scrappy and lots of little harassing moves for a while.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
It's true I won't be tempted to fight he KB directly until late 43 now! As in my previous Allied game it's going to be scrappy and lots of little harassing moves for a while.
Yup, much more sensible. I was doing really well in my current game till Nov '42 when I hung around an invasion when I should have gone.
4 CVs, 1 Modern BB, 1 Old BB down later and I'm back to harassing attacks for a while!
RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
I hate the "don't fight until '43" mindset, but in this case it is warranted. Fabian tactics.
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ORIGINAL: Anachro
I hate the "don't fight until '43" mindset, but in this case it is warranted. Fabian tactics.
It's not don't fight so much as "don't do anything stupid."
RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Anachro
I hate the "don't fight until '43" mindset, but in this case it is warranted. Fabian tactics.
It's not don't fight so much as "don't do anything stupid."
Or more like, "don't do anything else stupid."
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
If you know where the KB is day to day and not a week or more ago you can hunt the Mini-KB and sink it. Then he has to split the KB until he gets new CVLs and the Converted liners as Medium CVs to form the new mini-k. It slows his operations or puts one or the other at risk. If you try to ambush the mini-KB and guess wrong you will be treading water until the Essexs show up in force.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
Haven't been following this AAR since its opening day moves. I'm looking to get hold of Obvert. He hasn't posted since 5/20 (in this AAR) and hasn't responded to a PM sent on 5/23.
Does anyone here have any additional information about his status?
Does anyone here have any additional information about his status?

RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)
No. [:(]ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Haven't been following this AAR since its opening day moves. I'm looking to get hold of Obvert. He hasn't posted since 5/20 (in this AAR) and hasn't responded to a PM sent on 5/23.
Does anyone here have any additional information about his status?
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