Sailing in harms way: InHarmsWay (J) vs Andav (A) Scen2

[InHarmsWay]

PaxMondo, It is October 25th 1942. I have a total of 12 George factories currently. Current date for production start is July '43. Currently researched 56% toward a June date. The remaining factories (all size 30) are repaired to: 29 / 28 / 27 / 25 / 23 / 23 / 22 / 22 / 21 /20.

I am hoping that I will get a third factory to 30 here in a week!

Frank research is a dozen factories as well. one is size 22 of 55. I liked your previous idea of making that a zero factory day one. The 11 remaining size 30 factories are currently at: 22 / 22 / 17 / 16 / 16 / 16 / 15 / 14 / 14/ / 14 / 0 (yes, just switched a zero factory over). I think the Tojo will be really long in the tooth by the time the Frank shows up. I wonder if it is feasible to get a stopgap plane researched, I think not as it would just dilute the research I am doing...

The most important factory that I am worried about is my Sam production: Currently I have 14 factories researching, as follows: 16 / 13 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 7 / 6 / 6 / 4 / 2 / 2 / 0. I really wished I had put more factories into Sam's earlier!!! I think I started with 9 or 10, and ramped them up a few months ago.

[PaxMondo]

PaxMondo, It is October 25th 1942. I have a total of 12 George factories currently. Current date for production start is July '43. Currently researched 56% toward a June date. The remaining factories (all size 30) are repaired to: 29 / 28 / 27 / 25 / 23 / 23 / 22 / 22 / 21 /20.

I am hoping that I will get a third factory to 30 here in a week!

Barring the absolute worst luck, you should have 1 - 3 more factories fully repaired within 10 days. That would be a total of 3 - 5 kicking out RnD points, which will then in a few weeks accelerate the rest of those factories to complete. So, by Dec 1, good chance that you will have 5-7 fully repaired RnD centers ... every 15-20 days you advance another month PLUS every 30 days the calendar moves a month.

If 5 are fully repaired by Dec 1, every 20 days you gain a month, and using your 7/43 start date:
Dec1 - 7/43
Dec20 - 6/43
Jan10 - 5/43
Jan30 - 4/43
Feb20 - 3/43
Mar 1 you get George.

The rest of the factories WILL repair before 1 Mar, so you reasonable chance to get George before 1 Feb ...

Frank research is a dozen factories as well. one is size 22 of 55. I liked your previous idea of making that a zero factory day one. The 11 remaining size 30 factories are currently at: 22 / 22 / 17 / 16 / 16 / 16 / 15 / 14 / 14/ / 14 / 0 (yes, just switched a zero factory over). I think the Tojo will be really long in the tooth by the time the Frank shows up. I wonder if it is feasible to get a stopgap plane researched, I think not as it would just dilute the research I am doing...

You look to be another 2 months or so before you get a factory to finish repairing. Lucky would be that the two at 22 now keep repairing fast. the odds are it will be one of the 16 or 15 that will finish up first. Then another month for the 2nd and the 3rd a month after that. So my guess for you is something like this:

1Mar43 - 4/44 ; 3 facts
1Apr43 - 3/44; 4 facts
25 May43 - 2/44; 4 facts
20 May43 - 1/44; 4 facts
10Jun43 - 12/43; 5 facts
28Jun43 - 11/43; 6 facts
15Jul43 - 10/43; 7 facts
30Jul43 - 9/43; 7 facts
mid Aug 43 Frank start

The most important factory that I am worried about is my Sam production: Currently I have 14 factories researching, as follows: 16 / 13 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 7 / 6 / 6 / 4 / 2 / 2 / 0. I really wished I had put more factories into Sam's earlier!!! I think I started with 9 or 10, and ramped them up a few months ago.

Sam arrives 9/45. This one is still pretty far out. most likely you are still 5 - 7 months away from your first to fully repair, and it could be longer. Look at it this way, this far out your "lucky" factory will repair 2 or 3 per month. with 12, you should get 2 or 3 lucky factories each month. Your 16 needs to get lucky 3 more times, your 6 would need 5 more times. As you say, if you had had 14 from 7Dec41, you would likely have all 14 now above 10 .. that's a big deal.

[PaxMondo]

How about an update? Please???

[InHarmsWay]

PaxMondo! Apologies, life has been busy and the war slow... I have neglected my duty to bring news of the ever victorious Japanese Army and Navy to the wider world!
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Gentle readers, the last month or two have been a breather on most fronts. Since it has been a while, I will update with some maps showing the status. Below is the current status in Burma. I have gone over the the strategic defensive as I did not want to get into a attrition war outside of my supply lines. Mistake in not continuing to hold on in India? I think the jury is still out on that...

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A couple things I am thinking at the moment. I feel that Adm Wa will not pursue into the open area and on to Taung Gyi in the short term. I feel his first move will be to retake Ceylon to open up the Indian ocean to him again. I pulled a raid with KB a few months ago and caught an unknown large ground unit(s) on transports. This is where I am hoping to ambush him... again...

The western China area is quiet near Paoshan. He has moved a few shells of former divisions forward hoping I will attack and kill them for him so the teleport to Chungking.

[InHarmsWay]

Down under, Admiral Wa seems to be more posturing than a full attack. I think he is wanting me to commit more units here? but not really sure of his overall strategy. I am holding him at Katherine after a brief retreat from his 4E bombers and 2E bombers. We have had a few CAP battles and sweeps, and I am bombing selected units every 3-5 days, to avoid any CAP on his part. My guess is he is constrained from a supply situation here. The one attempt trying to turn my flank at Port Hedland near Broome on the west side was met with a counter landing.

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I do want to hold this area hopefully through mid '43, banking mainly on the inability of the allies to get supplies up to keep an offensive going.

One item of note, there has been at least 1-2 very pesky Dutch subs that have combined to sink at least 6 transport near Darwin the past few weeks. Highly annoying.

[InHarmsWay]

Ah China, both my hope and frustration! China went so well until I realized the mistakes I had made (and I am sure there are more that I have made that I am not aware of...)

Currently after two hugely costly attacks at Chungking, the forts are at 4. I have probably 10-15 various brigades and rgmts that were completely trashed in the first attack that they are still only half built back. I do have a core of divisions that I will launch another attack in about a week. Currently several units have been moved out of Chungking to rest and to avoid overstacking. I am hoping by year end to take Chungking and from there finish mopping up the rest of the cities that have been isolated.

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I have about 20 arty units continuously bombarding Chungking, and ~150 Sally/Helens bombing as well. This is gradually driving down his AV, while mine goes up. A couple things I have learn for the betterment of future Japanese expansions are:

1. Use Divisions to attack at Chungking. Do not use division sized units when holding down secondary isolated cities such as Sian, Changsha, etc... Use your smaller ~10-200 AV units for that garrison work. This also includes the larger garrisons such as Shanghai and Peiping.
2. Do not have on upgrade whenever a division is divided into 3rds to help with recovery.... Colonel Murphy will show up and only upgrade one of the three sub units, and will a issue secret order for the other two to never upgrade again...
3. Bomb Chungking early, as soon as you can sweep it, in order to minimize the amount of forts that can be built. Lvl 6 was nasty. I had ~8000 AV and went to 1100 AV after the attack...
4. Watch your leaders like a hawk before the attack. Swapping out bad leaders is key.

All that said, I do wonder how China can be take before June/July given all the morass and slow movement there... thoughts here are welcome! They say hindsight is 20/20, but in this respect my hindsight is still crap and would like to know the forums thoughts on this!

[PaxMondo]

PaxMondo! Apologies, life has been busy and the war slow... I have neglected my duty to bring news of the ever victorious Japanese Army and Navy to the wider world!

Correct!! We eagerly await news of the ever-victorious JFB!!!

Mistake in not continuing to hold on in India? I think the jury is still out on that...

This is ALWAYS a tough call, and almost always better to err on the side of caution as it is easy to lose a lot of LCU's to quasi-permanent internment camps. Having said that, you should generally be able to hold onto your gains in India and continue to bleed the allies into mid-43 at least. What will drive you out are US forces (both air and land) arriving in theatre. The catch is a tricky AFB will not reveal these forces until the hammer drops. The JFB counter to this is recon, recon, recon. Particularly deep recon.

Not being able to see all your force distribution, nor the recon results in India, I can't really tell you if you bailed early or not. BUT, still, you are on the safe side. Catch is that you forgo a lot of resources/supply/HI, but that is the game. Not holding India too long means that you have to be careful with AC builds in '43. Don't over build your intermediate AC's; you need to save enough to build your final AC's in volume. Meaning Ki-84a .vs. Ki-84r; N1K .vs A7M. etc. Also watch engine builds. Same thought. Need to save enough to be able to build the Ha-45/43 in the late war .... conversely, you almost cannot have too many Ha-45's .... so when you get it, build it. build BIG.


PS: A common JFB strategy is to try and lure the over-anxious AFB into a Bay of Bengal trap. If successful, and the AFB falls into it, you can keep overall control into '44 which is to your advantage. The myriad counters to this include a feint into BoB and landings in Aleutians/Marshalls with your response out of place.

[PaxMondo]

Down under, Admiral Wa seems to be more posturing than a full attack. I think he is wanting me to commit more units here? but not really sure of his overall strategy. I am holding him at Katherine after a brief retreat from his 4E bombers and 2E bombers. We have had a few CAP battles and sweeps, and I am bombing selected units every 3-5 days, to avoid any CAP on his part. My guess is he is constrained from a supply situation here. The one attempt trying to turn my flank at Port Hedland near Broome on the west side was met with a counter landing.


I do want to hold this area hopefully through mid '43, banking mainly on the inability of the allies to get supplies up to keep an offensive going.

One item of note, there has been at least 1-2 very pesky Dutch subs that have combined to sink at least 6 transport near Darwin the past few weeks. Highly annoying.

This is the flip side of India, beware the AFB luring you into a trap. He will want you to commit more forces and then strand them. So, only stay for as long as you think you can control the local seas (Timur, Arafura, and Banda). Once you get to the point where you are not sure, bail, leaving behind only those forces that you are ok with losing.

[PaxMondo]

Ah China, both my hope and frustration! China went so well until I realized the mistakes I had made (and I am sure there are more that I have made that I am not aware of...)

Currently after two hugely costly attacks at Chungking, the forts are at 4. I have probably 10-15 various brigades and rgmts that were completely trashed in the first attack that they are still only half built back. I do have a core of divisions that I will launch another attack in about a week. Currently several units have been moved out of Chungking to rest and to avoid overstacking. I am hoping by year end to take Chungking and from there finish mopping up the rest of the cities that have been isolated.

First your losses are typical. Neikiang is where you recover, make sure LOTSA HQ's there and supply and build the base up as far as you can (not forts though). Cycle units in and out. Attack whenever you have enough to drop the forts another level. Use air bombardment on the AF to prevent fort re-building. When you get forts down to 2-3, that's when you can start to look at the killer attack and take it.

I have about 20 arty units continuously bombarding Chungking, and ~150 Sally/Helens bombing as well. This is gradually driving down his AV, while mine goes up. A couple things I have learn for the betterment of future Japanese expansions are:

1. Use Divisions to attack at Chungking. Do not use division sized units when holding down secondary isolated cities such as Sian, Changsha, etc... Use your smaller ~10-200 AV units for that garrison work. This also includes the larger garrisons such as Shanghai and Peiping.
2. Do not have on upgrade whenever a division is divided into 3rds to help with recovery.... Colonel Murphy will show up and only upgrade one of the three sub units, and will a issue secret order for the other two to never upgrade again...
3. Bomb Chungking early, as soon as you can sweep it, in order to minimize the amount of forts that can be built. Lvl 6 was nasty. I had ~8000 AV and went to 1100 AV after the attack...
4. Watch your leaders like a hawk before the attack. Swapping out bad leaders is key.

All that said, I do wonder how China can be take before June/July given all the morass and slow movement there... thoughts here are welcome! They say hindsight is 20/20, but in this respect my hindsight is still crap and would like to know the forums thoughts on this!

Ground bombardments - I don't use them much, but that is me. I know others do. My concern is the supply usage and I am knocking on CK's door in Mar when my supply is still very shaky.
Air bombardments - definitely, but again only enough to keep the AF damaged. Air bombardment is also $$$$$ on supply, so I watch the damage carefully and manage the air groups assigned.

As to how to get it in Jun/Jul, simple, you have to reach it in Mar or earlier. I know some can do it in Feb, but I'm not that good. There are 2 routes, via Sian or via Kweiyang. The advantage of Kweiyang is that it will also open up your LOS to Malay/Burma.

Concentrate your forces and move forward. Use smaller units (rgmt/bde) to pin CHI units that you bypass and need to prevent them from interdicting your LOS. Use Air bombardment on pinned units to wear them down and keep them in place.

Get Chengtu first and then circle back to CK. By isolating CK from the rest of CHI, you limit its supply. Also, you help your units recover by having more bases nearby.

Bring the BIG hammer, everything you can and be inventive. CK should be after Singers/HK/DEI. I don't go into India until I have CK ... and yes, send some of those units into the CK furball. I frequently will send MANY.

Be sure the units are prepped for CK, and at least one Command HQ. Better to have 2 in range and fully prepped for CK. BIG bonus that you want.

Leave the clear hex east of CK open, allow the CHI forces to retreat there. Often this will allow you to take CK 2 - 10 turns earlier, and BONUS, clear is a lot lower def bonus than CK, so the, mop up is easier and cheaper.

Good Luck!!!

[InHarmsWay]

All great comments, and will help future wars immeasurably. Now just to survive to '45 in this one...

In good news, George research now has 3 fully repaired factories (with engine bonus), and just accelerated and are now at June '43.... I do think I can get Georges in Jan '43! Judys have replaced half of the Vals in the KB DB units, and Jills will roll off the assembly line in less than a month. KB will be marginally more deadly...

One glimmer of hope, and that really is what it is... is that ships sunk are still reporting three allied CV from the June clash. Adm Wa confirmed one CV but has been cagy on anything else. Here is the list of capital ships lost...

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Question for the gentle readers out there... how long does it take for reported sinkings become confirmed sinkings? I feel I got one CV for sure, likely one additional CV a bit later (due to sudden carrier based planes reported with ground losses), and I would be ecstatic if I got a third!. Would change my strategy and I would again get aggressive before the first Essex shows up

[BBfanboy]

Admission of a major warship being sunk varies greatly - a few weeks to over 6 months as I recall.

[PaxMondo]

Admission of a major warship being sunk varies greatly - a few weeks to over 6 months as I recall.

Yeah, the best confirmation is in the aircraft loss report for that day. If you see 3x90 = 270 carrier aircraft lost that day, bingo. otherwise, don't believe it.

[InHarmsWay]

All, so here is the listing of plane losses to date, sorted by ground losses. From this, I am starting to think I got 2 CVs, maybe a third. Note two different types of fighters, 21 F4F-3A and 19 F4F-4. To me, that means two CVs. Now, the question is would both CV have that many planes on their decks when they went under? In total it looks like a bit over 100 carrier planes lost to ground losses. From what I remember, most?? of these ground losses did not show up until several days later. Tracker shows an allied plane loss spike of 107 frames on June 27th, which does align with the reported June 26, 1942 loss of Yorktown.

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[PaxMondo]

Ooohhhh, looking at those numbers ... I would say one CV for sure. 2nd only a maybe. The two different fighters suggests a 2nd depleted airgroup CV .... but I would hate to hang my hat on it. In either case, it hardly matters to you. It means he still has a significant carrier threat and you need to be cautious with any break-up of the KB. Excluding the british CV's he can still pull together at least 3 CV's => 270 AC. You need the entire KB to really beat that. Anything less than 4 of your CV's you will be at a disadvantage in numbers .... and if he can put 4 CV's together ... that's 360 AC ... then
at least 5 CV KB.


KB is 81+ 3*72 + 71 + 63 => 431 If you add all of your CVL's you can get another 108 AC

[InHarmsWay]

Yes, that is my thinking as well and why I have not really gotten that crazy. I caught the Lexington on about June 22nd ish, and the large number of dead CV planes occurred around the 27th. That leads me to the hopeful thought I got 2 CV's.

Speaking of crazy, my initial thoughts were to attempt a landing up in the Aleutian islands, maybe Attu or somewhere around there. Pro's includes having the chance of regaining the initiative, killing some nice base forces, pushing back the front lines in the north. Cons include losing alot of troops, ships, and focusing the allies on that theater. Last war, I lost the north area, and that is how Adm Wa came at me in the HI.... A key part of my strategy is for him to not be able to do that easily.... Currently I dont think the reward outweighs the risk on this idea... it is close to the USA and I would likely get a quick response. KB would have to be there to support and that would leave open a landing in the DEI or Ceylon.

In other news, I now have 4 George factories researching. If I can get a fifth, there is an outside chance of getting George by year end!! The engine bonus means with that 5th one, I accelerate every 10 days.

Off to the Desert Southwest for the Labor day weekend. Last trip of the summer! War will continue shortly!

[PaxMondo]

Yes, that is my thinking as well and why I have not really gotten that crazy. I caught the Lexington on about June 22nd ish, and the large number of dead CV planes occurred around the 27th. That leads me to the hopeful thought I got 2 CV's.

And you may very well have gotten 2. Until the VP's add up though, I would hold off counting that chicken and leave it as an egg ....

Speaking of crazy, my initial thoughts were to attempt a landing up in the Aleutian islands, maybe Attu or somewhere around there. Pro's includes having the chance of regaining the initiative, killing some nice base forces, pushing back the front lines in the north. Cons include losing alot of troops, ships, and focusing the allies on that theater. Last war, I lost the north area, and that is how Adm Wa came at me in the HI.... A key part of my strategy is for him to not be able to do that easily.... Currently I dont think the reward outweighs the risk on this idea... it is close to the USA and I would likely get a quick response. KB would have to be there to support and that would leave open a landing in the DEI or Ceylon.

Adak is the most commonly contested island in the Aleutians. If you have it, you basically close the door to Hokkaido. Once the allies own it in strength, the door to Hokkaido is always open and you really need to keep a significant reaction force ready in that area.

In other news, I now have 4 George factories researching. If I can get a fifth, there is an outside chance of getting George by year end!! The engine bonus means with that 5th one, I accelerate every 10 days.

Off to the Desert Southwest for the Labor day weekend. Last trip of the summer! War will continue shortly!

Enjoy!!! It is still hot here.

[PaxMondo]

Any update?

[InHarmsWay]

It has been quiet, but there are a few updates. The last turn I sent the ever victorious Army to once again attack at Chungking. Forts have now fallen to Lvl 3 and I almost got a 2-1 attack. Below is the latest attack: I was happy to see, most of my Divisions attacking were not completely trashed, so I will rest for a week and attack again. Hoping to reduce forts again and maybe get a 2-1 attack. Note the assault was so so close to a 2-1, and I had the bad luck of storms over Chungking that day so no air attacks went in. Oh well, Lady Luck is a very fickle mistress!

Also it looks like I will get the George before year end. How many built by then is still up for grabs. I have 5 factories researching, and with the engine bonus, that means a new month every 10 days! Currently it is at June. I fully expect more factories to come online in the next few weeks as well.

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 147193 troops, 1727 guns, 1469 vehicles, Assault Value = 4908

Defending force 165579 troops, 320 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3250

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 3397

Allied adjusted defense: 1705

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: HQ(+)

Japanese ground losses:
14762 casualties reported
Squads: 44 destroyed, 910 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 85 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 279 disabled
Vehicles lost 99 (4 destroyed, 95 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
12539 casualties reported
Squads: 332 destroyed, 594 disabled
Non Combat: 251 destroyed, 680 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 35 (21 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
116th Division
22nd Division
11th Tank Regiment
41st Division
10th Tank Regiment
110th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
34th Division
19th Ind. Engineer Regiment
3rd Division
9th Tank Regiment
35th Division
15th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Ind.Mixed Brigade
26th Engineer Regiment
13th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Ind.Mixed Brigade
13th Division
39th Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
5th Tank Regiment
104th/A Division
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
23rd Army
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
12th Army
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
13th Army
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion

Defending units:
50th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
64th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
20th Chinese Corps
15th Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
33rd Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
31st Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
42nd Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
9th Prov Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Corps
61st Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Corps
25th Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
30th Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
83rd Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
11th Construction Regiment
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
2nd Group Army
20th Chinese Base Force
20th Group Army
26th Group Army
25th Group Army
39th Group Army
China Command
7th War Area
Lusu War Area
35th Group Army
Central Reserve
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
57th AT Gun Regiment
99th Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
10th Group Army
4th War Area
6th War Area
14th Group Army
1st Group Army
1st Chinese Cavalry Corps
13th Construction Regiment
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
8th Group Army
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps
7th Group Army
3rd War Area
Jingcha War Area
32nd Group Army
8th Construction Regiment
5th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
86th Chinese Corps
22nd Group Army
CAF HQ
1st Chinese Base Force
16th Group Army
33rd Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment

[PaxMondo]

You're very close here.

Keep the air bombardments on the AF to prevent him from building forts.

Get your worst hit units out of the hex over to Neikiang where hopefully you have a LOT of HQ's and supply. put them in rest mode, they should heal up quick.

Keep hitting him until you get forts 1/0, then make your final push.


Remember, he is getting reinforcements now ... units that you killed earlier are coming back at 1/3 strength for free. so, you gotta work fast.

PS: you already have Chengtu, correct? If not, you will have to do this all over again .... not fun.

[InHarmsWay]

I do not have Chengtu! It is isolated as well, and Adm Wa has a relatively large group of land units there. hmmmm.... Hopefully I can pivot after taking Chungking in time. Here is the current status of the Chinese front. All of the Chinese cities have units trapped in them. Would it be better to try and take Chengtu now before the final attack on Chungking? I think I may be able to take it in the next two attacks. Almost had a 2-1 and my forces will recover while his will not. That gives me a month to get to Chengtu and take that city. I believe he has 1000-1200 AV there currently.

What I may do us start moving part of the arty up there to soften it up...

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