The Accidental War Obvert vs Lowpe
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adarbrauner
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RE: Soviets Activated....
the good divisions of the 25th Army, which had been destroyed in southern Malaya; where are there now?
for sure you managed to extricate a good part of them, and had some months to reconstitute; they ain't good as they were but still, where are them, they don't cost PPs...
what did he invade Balik with?
Could you elaborate a risky, desperate, defense and counter attack plan?
for sure you managed to extricate a good part of them, and had some months to reconstitute; they ain't good as they were but still, where are them, they don't cost PPs...
what did he invade Balik with?
Could you elaborate a risky, desperate, defense and counter attack plan?
RE: Soviets Activated....
3-1 attack here shatters the tank regiment, the 15cm artillery is 36 miles into their march to reinforce, and the 65th brigade is still three days away...forts knocked down to 1.
Looks grim here.
Can't catch Soviet tanks in western Manchuko.
The Soviets have another heavy push coming out of China...Soviet tanks and motorcycle corp shatter a tank regiment there.
Balikpapen invasion continuing to drop troops and bombard.

Looks grim here.
Can't catch Soviet tanks in western Manchuko.
The Soviets have another heavy push coming out of China...Soviet tanks and motorcycle corp shatter a tank regiment there.
Balikpapen invasion continuing to drop troops and bombard.

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RE: Soviets Activated....
ORIGINAL: adarbrauner
the good divisions of the 25th Army, which had been destroyed in southern Malaya; where are there now?
for sure you managed to extricate a good part of them, and had some months to reconstitute; they ain't good as they were but still, where are them, they don't cost PPs...
what did he invade Balik with?
Could you elaborate a risky, desperate, defense and counter attack plan?
There is still a lot of troops north of Singers. Most haven't been evacuated.
Rebuilt troops seem to need PP to repurchase.
Ground combat at Balikpapan (64,97)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3412 troops, 48 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 302
Defending force 6430 troops, 61 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 70
Assaulting units:
6th KNIL Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
Roodenburg Cdo
Marinier Battalion
Defending units:
8th Tank Rgt /4
30th JNAF AF Unit
6th Field Construction Battalion
21st Air Flotilla /3
2nd Base Force
47th Field AA Battalion
44th Field AA Battalion
20th Port Unit
10th Port Unit
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /1
There is no possibility of a counter offensive anywhere.
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adarbrauner
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RE: Soviets Activated....
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
There is no possibility of a counter offensive anywhere.
On the sea, and on the air, yes;
could you wrap up something? the alternative is the opening of negotiations.
RE: Soviets Activated....
Lots of fight left in Japan, even after the economy crashes.
Why negotiate...Obvert is having tons of fun![:)] I am too, but not as much>[;)]
Why negotiate...Obvert is having tons of fun![:)] I am too, but not as much>[;)]
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RE: Soviets Activated....
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Lots of fight left in Japan, even after the economy crashes.
Why negotiate...Obvert is having tons of fun![:)] I am too, but not as much>[;)]
You are an amazing player!!!

RE: Soviets Activated....
Concur with Wargmr. Thank you for the unique look of two experienced players dealing with early (Soviet) onset.
RE: Soviets Activated....
Thanks guys, got a turn in the inbox, and nothing good will come of it for Japan. I will be a day late in Luzon, Balikpapen will fall, Cam Ranh Bay might fall with a huge number of support troops, Soviets and Chinese will continue to infiltrate.
And the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions cannot catch the retreating Soviet Armor, and if they do they get so far away from the rail lines...
And the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions cannot catch the retreating Soviet Armor, and if they do they get so far away from the rail lines...
RE: Soviets Activated....
Lots of bad things happened for Japan...beaten back in Luzon. The 15cm artillery arrives just in time to retreat. Not sure if they came out of reserve no pursuit mode to fight...65th Brigade will now probably be caught in open terrain by marauding Stuarts.
Balikpapen falls...
Last port on Malaya falls...
Cam Ranh Bay holds but forts knocked down...
Lots of Soviet attacks in western Manchuko...they are here in strength. More Japanese units cut off
2nd Tank Division runs pell mell into 14 Soviet units. 1st Tank on their way...plus other. We will see how the Type 1 Medium tank can hold up.
More later...
Balikpapen falls...
Last port on Malaya falls...
Cam Ranh Bay holds but forts knocked down...
Lots of Soviet attacks in western Manchuko...they are here in strength. More Japanese units cut off
2nd Tank Division runs pell mell into 14 Soviet units. 1st Tank on their way...plus other. We will see how the Type 1 Medium tank can hold up.
More later...
RE: Soviets Activated....
Sept 12,1942
1st and 2nd Tank Divisions will launch an attack against a Soviet Corp backed with depeleted armor but full artillery here...time to see how well the Type 1 Medium Tanks can do.
Cam Ranh Bay survives another deliberate attack...Allies pushing forward on Luzon, and ABDA fleet approaching Manado...

1st and 2nd Tank Divisions will launch an attack against a Soviet Corp backed with depeleted armor but full artillery here...time to see how well the Type 1 Medium Tanks can do.
Cam Ranh Bay survives another deliberate attack...Allies pushing forward on Luzon, and ABDA fleet approaching Manado...

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RE: Soviets Activated....
By this time, the large size of the Soviet forces shouldn't be surprising. [;)]
RE: Soviets Activated....
Sept 13, 1942
To the west the Soviet push is all tank units including divisions...pretty classic lawrence of arabia stuff, here, massive Soviet armored columns coming out of the Gobi Desert backed with hordes of Chinese. I don't have anywhere near the number of units to stop them.
Here, Japan is attempting an encirclement but very doubtful I can pull it off.
Japanese armor does very well...

To the west the Soviet push is all tank units including divisions...pretty classic lawrence of arabia stuff, here, massive Soviet armored columns coming out of the Gobi Desert backed with hordes of Chinese. I don't have anywhere near the number of units to stop them.
Here, Japan is attempting an encirclement but very doubtful I can pull it off.
Japanese armor does very well...

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RE: Soviets Activated....
An object lesson in how you have to read the report to get the real meaning...
Ground combat at 98,35 (near Tolun)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 15284 troops, 225 guns, 814 vehicles, Assault Value = 659
Defending force 31247 troops, 379 guns, 479 vehicles, Assault Value = 743
Japanese adjusted assault: 310
Allied adjusted defense: 1393
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
887 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 46 (4 destroyed, 42 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 61 (21 destroyed, 40 disabled)
Assaulting units:
1st Tank Division
2nd Tank Division
5th Air Defense AA Regiment
Defending units:
82nd Tank Battalion
33rd Tank Battalion
205th Tank Brigade
187th Rifle Division
260th Rifle Brigade
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
32nd VVS Base Force
Trans Baikal Front
46th/302nd AA Battalion
147th PVO AA Battalion
82nd VVS Base Force
129th Engineer Battalion
102nd Engineer Battalion
84th VVS Base Force
Ground combat at 98,35 (near Tolun)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 15284 troops, 225 guns, 814 vehicles, Assault Value = 659
Defending force 31247 troops, 379 guns, 479 vehicles, Assault Value = 743
Japanese adjusted assault: 310
Allied adjusted defense: 1393
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 4
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
887 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 20 (1 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 46 (4 destroyed, 42 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 61 (21 destroyed, 40 disabled)
Assaulting units:
1st Tank Division
2nd Tank Division
5th Air Defense AA Regiment
Defending units:
82nd Tank Battalion
33rd Tank Battalion
205th Tank Brigade
187th Rifle Division
260th Rifle Brigade
3rd Mongolian Tank Regiment
32nd VVS Base Force
Trans Baikal Front
46th/302nd AA Battalion
147th PVO AA Battalion
82nd VVS Base Force
129th Engineer Battalion
102nd Engineer Battalion
84th VVS Base Force
RE: Soviets Activated....
Another tank attack a little further to the west...heavy artillery for Japan so important.
Ground combat at Tatung (93,37)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 18657 troops, 261 guns, 1939 vehicles, Assault Value = 1085
Defending force 16836 troops, 121 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 515
Allied adjusted assault: 717
Japanese adjusted defense: 529
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Squads: 37 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 69 (4 destroyed, 65 disabled)
Assaulting units:
111th Tank Division
61st Tank Division
70th Tank Battalion
171st Tank Brigade
9th Armored Car Brigade
Defending units:
4th NCPC Infantry Brigade
138th Infantry Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Mixed Brigade
24th/A Division
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
Ground combat at Tatung (93,37)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 18657 troops, 261 guns, 1939 vehicles, Assault Value = 1085
Defending force 16836 troops, 121 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 515
Allied adjusted assault: 717
Japanese adjusted defense: 529
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Squads: 37 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 69 (4 destroyed, 65 disabled)
Assaulting units:
111th Tank Division
61st Tank Division
70th Tank Battalion
171st Tank Brigade
9th Armored Car Brigade
Defending units:
4th NCPC Infantry Brigade
138th Infantry Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Mixed Brigade
24th/A Division
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
RE: Soviets Activated....
Bad news...wait to you see where they retreated too!


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RE: Soviets Activated....
I had forgotten about that! It is land, just use the '1' hotkey. [:D]ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Not much land here...
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RE: Soviets Activated....
9/14/42
IJA wipes out an American tank unit...Stuarts I think. Feels good. We strafed them first, then bombarded them, and finally attacked. Really, nothing to get excited about as the tanks pursued ill advisedly and could not be supported by the rest of the Allied forces on Luzon.
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12378 troops, 109 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 310
Defending force 43 troops, 0 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 276
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 276 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
3rd Ind Engineer Regiment
48th/A Division
6th Naval Construction Battalion
7th Port Unit
56th Const Co
4th Field Construction Battalion
14th Army
13th Air Flotilla
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
48th Field AA Battalion
52nd Div /4
Defending units:
194th Tank Battalion
IJA wipes out an American tank unit...Stuarts I think. Feels good. We strafed them first, then bombarded them, and finally attacked. Really, nothing to get excited about as the tanks pursued ill advisedly and could not be supported by the rest of the Allied forces on Luzon.
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12378 troops, 109 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 310
Defending force 43 troops, 0 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1
Japanese adjusted assault: 276
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 276 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
65th Brigade
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
3rd Ind Engineer Regiment
48th/A Division
6th Naval Construction Battalion
7th Port Unit
56th Const Co
4th Field Construction Battalion
14th Army
13th Air Flotilla
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
48th Field AA Battalion
52nd Div /4
Defending units:
194th Tank Battalion
RE: Soviets Activated....
Really, nothing to get excited about
It's a victory! Take it!! [:D]





