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ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Well, I would guess some of the appeal in using them tactically is a result of an inability to use them strategically in the daytime, or at least a perception of an inability.

Really? I honestly don't think so. I think he is enamored with tactical use of these airframes and has 'forgotten' or been dissuaded from a meaningful strategic bombing campaign because of this competing application, not due to daylight resistance to strategic bombing.
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ORIGINAL: Wuffer
Palembeng is the most important hex, not Tokyo.

But let us keep in mind that this's a picked up one. And that I'm talking too much. :-))

I understand the spirit of your note, but find fault with this analogy. Palembang is the most important hex...until it's not. If a Japanese player is still in the act of pulling fuel and oil from Palembang, then it is useful-perhaps ultimately useful. If they cannot import fuel and oil from Palembang, then it ceases to be the most important hex in the game thereafter.

Which is it? It depends on the gameplay and the timing of the game. Currently, it's probably a very important hex-because Obvert is still-almost inexplicably-able to import fuel and oil from it. But when the Allied cordon is complete-perhaps soon, then there will be limited to no value for the Japanese any longer. And then Tokyo / Osaka will reclaim the throne.

Also, with all the engine and airframe production factories, HI, LI and so forth in Tokyo, it's conclusive destruction would be catastrophic to the Japanese war effort at this stage. Maybe moreso than Palembang's relevance as we go into late 1945-early 1946.
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: Wuffer
Palembeng is the most important hex, not Tokyo.

But let us keep in mind that this's a picked up one. And that I'm talking too much. :-))

I understand the spirit of your note, but find fault with this analogy. Palembang is the most important hex...until it's not. If a Japanese player is still in the act of pulling fuel and oil from Palembang, then it is useful-perhaps ultimately useful. If they cannot import fuel and oil from Palembang, then it ceases to be the most important hex in the game thereafter.

Which is it? It depends on the gameplay and the timing of the game. Currently, it's probably a very important hex-because Obvert is still-almost inexplicably-able to import fuel and oil from it. But when the Allied cordon is complete-perhaps soon, then there will be limited to no value for the Japanese any longer. And then Tokyo / Osaka will reclaim the throne.

Also, with all the engine and airframe production factories, HI, LI and so forth in Tokyo, it's conclusive destruction would be catastrophic to the Japanese war effort at this stage. Maybe moreso than Palembang's relevance as we go into late 1945-early 1946.

My guess about why he hasn't run strikes on Tokyo and Osaka is a perception that they'e very well defended. The lack of night strikes though I can't explain.

His recon would have shown the number guns there, and he would have probably concluded that all of those are AA. They are, actually.A lot of the fighter trainers are there in both as well, and that would look like a massive CAP. He hasn't even swept either to see what the CAP looks like in the 14 months he's been in range.

My thinking is he will hit them both with nukes.
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[font="Times New Roman"]August 6, 1945[/font]
On the 6th the Allies tried another (good) small tactical night strike on Palembang. Only 16 hit but they take out 20+ airframes on the ground (in thunderstorms).

During the day phase the sweeps are still thwarted yb the strong day CAP. I might get a small NF unit in here as this is still an important base, the only real defensive location in the DEI I might be able to maintain for a while longer.

The Allies also send a tank unit across into Singers. It's nearly obliterated, but in case he's coming with the rest tomorrow I won't strike back.
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Night Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed on ground
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-83: 4 destroyed on ground
H8K2-L Emily: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 7
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 18
Ki-102b Randy x 14

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 5 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 7
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 16
Ki-102b Randy x 14

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 3 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 7
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 2 destroyed

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1680 troops, 0 guns, 139 vehicles, Assault Value = 70

Defending force 111584 troops, 811 guns, 704 vehicles, Assault Value = 2366

Allied adjusted assault: 0

Japanese adjusted defense: 12947

Allied assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 100 (74 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd USMC Tank Battalion

Defending units:
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Tank Regiment
49th Tank Battalion
Yokosuka 4th SNLF /2
3rd INA Azad Regiment
65th Naval Guard Unit
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
44th Naval Guard Unit
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st INA Subhas Regiment
4th Raiding Regiment
80th Garrison Battalion
4th INA Nehru Regiment
65th Brigade
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
33rd Division
26th Tank Regiment
Sasebo 8th SNLF
7th Indpt SNLF Coy /1
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Amphibious Brigade
120th Div /2
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
2nd South Seas Det.
Kure 3rd SNLF
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
1st RF Gun Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
12th Base Force
17th JAAF AF Bn
87th JAAF AF Bn
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Air Division
29th Army
89th JAAF AF Bn
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
3rd Air Division
5th Field AF Construction Battalion
18th Area Army
25th Army
201st JAAF AF Bn
9th Air Division
40th JAAF AF Bn
5th INA Regiment
43rd Const Co
Southern Fleet
30th JAAF AF Bn
93rd JAAF AF Bn
13th Ind.Hvy.Art. Regiment
28th JAAF AF Bn
105th JAAF AF Bn
41st JAAF AF Bn
91st JAAF AF Bn
Maraisha JNAF Base Force
80th JAAF AF Bn
111th Naval Construction Battalion
94th JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn /1

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[font="Times New Roman"]August 7, 1945[/font]
This turn is pertinent to the night bombing discussion. The Allies launch a medium sized night strike on Kagoshima. It's without NF since it's a smaller industrial centre and my bleeding night CAP didn't make it over. The Allies only have 40 B-29s actually strike, but those get 50k+ fires going. A few resource points are taken off by day but more will go soon as fires burn.

There are some smaller bases with no night CAP cover in the Home Islands. I do this for two reasons;

1. I don't like either the VP loss ratio in using day fighters on night CAP and I don't like the pilot exp gain for his bomber pilots if I do. They do shoot down loads of Nf as well, but a much smaller ratio to bombers shot down.

2.I do want to max Nf protection of bases with huge resource, HI, LI and airframe production centers.

I've decided to set more at Nagasaki and surrounding bases on a bleed and increased range for others around the HI now as well. I'll also be bringing back most of the fighters in China as I can't do much there with supply dwindling.
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Night Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 14

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 21
Fires 10700


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 5
Fires 50825


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Babeldaob at 91,96, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Chitose Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
PB Eifuku Maru
PB Fukui Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
PB Ikuta Maru, Shell hits 1
PB Shinko Maru, Shell hits 4
PB Shinkyo Maru, Shell hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Sansei Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAKL Amakasu Maru, Shell hits 1
xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Shinrei Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAKL Hinode Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAKL Kennichi Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Okuni Maru
xAKL Yanagigawa
xAKL Misaki Maru, Shell hits 4, on fire
TK Shinetsu Maru, Shell hits 21, and is sunk

xAKL Fukuyo Maru
SC Ch 63, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Wizard, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Wrangler

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards

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Still hanging on with the industry. Supply is going down, but slowly.

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@ Andre

I agree! Completely. :-)

In other news, I still remember when my friend came back with a very special book from then Eastern Berlin, A. Suetin's 'Chess Strategy for Advanced' (translated, no clue if it's available in english). One of this books that really could change a life, written by a true soviet pro trainer in a no-nonsense style.
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ORIGINAL: obvert
My thinking is he will hit them both with nukes.

I think the question came up here several months ago, but I don't recall if there was a finite answer. Does CAP / can CAP intercept a nuclear strike? That would be an unwelcome discovery if that's the case. [8D]
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ORIGINAL: obvert
The Allies also send a tank unit across into Singers.

Obvert,

How have you found the various RF gun companies / battalions in the anti-armor defensive role? It seems to me that Singapore would benefit from such a defensive unit (or two or three...) with the imminent threat of an armor attack.
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: obvert
The Allies also send a tank unit across into Singers.

Obvert,

How have you found the various RF gun companies / battalions in the anti-armor defensive role? It seems to me that Singapore would benefit from such a defensive unit (or two or three...) with the imminent threat of an armor attack.

They've been great so far in Burma and the recent battle at Nanning. At Singers though I just have the embedded 47m guns, and there is no hope of getting more in. [:(]
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The A-bomber always gets through:

Morning Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 77 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
A6M5 Zero x 11
A7M2 Sam x 19
A7M3-J Sam x 94
J2M5 Jack x 4
J7W1 Shinden x 5
N1K1 Rex x 57
N1K5-J George x 36
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 12
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 19
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 9
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 21
Ki-79a Nate x 28
Ki-84a Frank x 11
Ki-84b Frank x 5
Ki-94-II x 48
Ki-95 x 12
Ki-100-II Tony x 13
Ki-119 x 74
Ki-201 Karyu x 4
BF109 T-2 x 24

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

ATOMIC BOMB hits 1
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My experience as well that the Atomic bomb mission gets through. Held off on it for the longest time due to fear of interception. When I pulled the trigger the lone squadron went in with no interception.
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That's wonderful news. [:(]
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There are reports of Tokyo glowing in the dark. Can you give us some details from your side?
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter

My experience as well that the Atomic bomb mission gets through. Held off on it for the longest time due to fear of interception. When I pulled the trigger the lone squadron went in with no interception.

I think its hardcoded to get through. I imagine in real life the Japanese radar was not good enough to pick up a raid by only 2 or 3 B29s and they did not have enough fuel left to put up standing patrols just in case by August 45.
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ORIGINAL: Miller
ORIGINAL: HansBolter

My experience as well that the Atomic bomb mission gets through. Held off on it for the longest time due to fear of interception. When I pulled the trigger the lone squadron went in with no interception.

I think its hardcoded to get through. I imagine in real life the Japanese radar was not good enough to pick up a raid by only 2 or 3 B29s and they did not have enough fuel left to put up standing patrols just in case by August 45.

Wasn't it at day?

They detected it but assumed that it was a regular recon mission, not worth the fuel to intercept.
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

There are reports of Tokyo glowing in the dark. Can you give us some details from your side?

Sorry for the lack of updates. Summer called me into the garden to finish the work I've been meaning to do there for about a year. Getting close now so tapering off and getting back into this.

I'll give some short updates on the last few weeks to get to current.
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[font="Times New Roman"]August 8-12, 1945[/font]
Interesting few days.

The most important development is that the Allies crossed over at Singers. In spite of continuous bombing, low supply and some disrupted troops, the Japanese devastate the Allied armies. The Allies lose 1,783 devices with another 4k + disabled to only 211 destroyed for Japan and only around 1k+ disabled. It's a smashing blow to Allied hopes of getting this base easily or soon as the forts also did not go down during the shock over which only achieved a 1:5. A few more of these and the Singers defense might even pay for itself in VPs but certainly will in time gained. That was 446 to the Japanese and only 35 to the Allies.

The Allies keep poking Palembang, just enough to work down the service 3 fighters. I'll have to relent soon and move out to recover. The DEI will not be tenable once Palembang is no longer a viable airbase. I don't have the infrastructure to continue in other bases as most support and other units have been moved out. It's fine though as Java resources have gone to only 200k and should be gone soon and the fuel/oil situation should now last well into 46 with nearly 5k fuel and 300k oil in reserve and most of that in or transiting to Japan.

During all of these five days of turns there have been no more Strat bombing attempts after the recent hit on Kagoshima that was quite successful. A bit surprised. Although I've also experienced trouble getting strikes to fly in the north, so maybe it's weather. I've had bombers set to hit Voroshilov airfields where the Soviets have a gaggle of fighters sitting, and they won't fly.

The Soviets keep marching forward but haven't encountered our lines yet.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 8, 1945
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TF 423 encounters mine field at Fusan (103,55)

Allied Ships
SS Sawfish, Mine hits 1

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Night Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y2-S Frances x 4

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Voroshilov , at 112,45

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 44,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 23
Ki-83 x 15

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 5
Ki-83 x 10
Ki-84r Frank x 14
Ki-102b Randy x 8

Allied aircraft
Mosquito FB.VI x 16
Spitfire VIII x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Mosquito FB.VI: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed


Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing from 2000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 plane(s) with no ordnance
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 266556 troops, 3515 guns, 4118 vehicles, Assault Value = 6972

Defending force 111576 troops, 811 guns, 703 vehicles, Assault Value = 2354

Allied adjusted assault: 1934

Japanese adjusted defense: 10913

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
9949 casualties reported
Squads: 111 destroyed, 408 disabled
Non Combat: 19 destroyed, 369 disabled
Engineers: 32 destroyed, 142 disabled
Guns lost 216 (32 destroyed, 184 disabled)
Vehicles lost 80 (17 destroyed, 63 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
33018 casualties reported
Squads: 525 destroyed, 2046 disabled
Non Combat: 99 destroyed, 563 disabled
Engineers: 312 destroyed, 898 disabled
Guns lost 457 (52 destroyed, 405 disabled)
Vehicles lost 390 (73 destroyed, 317 disabled)


Assaulting units:
193rd Tank Battalion
20th Indian Division
236th Combat Engineer Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
268th Motorised Brigade
81st (West African) Division
Lushai Brigade
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
82nd (West African) Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
11th (East African) Division
2nd British Division
26th Indian Division
475th USA Regiment
16th Chindit Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
XXXIV Corps Engineer Battalion
27th Infantry Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
1st Garrison Brigade
7th Australian Division
18th British Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
17th Motorised Division
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
32nd Infantry Division
25th Indian Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
6th Australian Division
45th Indian Brigade
8th Indian Division
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
56th Heavy AA Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
3rd Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
181st Field Artillery Regiment
III Indian Corps
2/11th Field Regiment
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
134th Medium Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
XXXIV Indian Corps
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
2nd South Seas Det.
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
3rd INA Azad Regiment
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
44th Naval Guard Unit
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
2nd Amphibious Brigade
Yokosuka 4th SNLF /2
1st INA Subhas Regiment
33rd Division
Sasebo 8th SNLF
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Kure 3rd SNLF
7th Indpt SNLF Coy /1
4th Tank Regiment
49th Tank Battalion
65th Brigade
65th Naval Guard Unit
26th Tank Regiment
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
80th Garrison Battalion
4th Raiding Regiment
120th Div /2
4th INA Nehru Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
12th Base Force
Southern Fleet
94th JAAF AF Bn
1st RF Gun Battalion
91st JAAF AF Bn
13th Ind.Hvy.Art. Regiment
111th Naval Construction Battalion
29th Army
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
5th Field AF Construction Battalion
17th JAAF AF Bn
4th Air Division
5th INA Regiment
105th JAAF AF Bn
28th JAAF AF Bn
43rd Const Co
89th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Air Division
Maraisha JNAF Base Force
9th Air Division
30th JAAF AF Bn
201st JAAF AF Bn
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
18th Area Army
93rd JAAF AF Bn
80th JAAF AF Bn
25th Army
40th JAAF AF Bn
41st JAAF AF Bn
87th JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn /1

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Submarine attack near Aogashima at 115,70

Japanese Ships
E No.81
E No.71
E No.69

Allied Ships
SS Hackleback, hits 25, and is sunk

SS Hackleback is located by E No.81
E No.81 attacking submerged sub ....
SS Hackleback forced to surface!

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Night Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
P1Y2-S Frances x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-83: 2 destroyed on ground
E13A1b Jake: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
352 Ku S-3/C with P1Y2-S Frances (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Raid is overhead

Some CAP have air radar

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Sub attack near Chichi-jima at 114,73

Japanese Ships
xAK Syoto Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage
SC Ch 28
SC Ch 19
xAK Shoho Maru
xAK Nitiren Maru
xAK Shinsei Maru
xAK Konan Maru
xAK Genzan Maru
xAK Tensyo Maru
xAK Yamagiku Maru
xAK Kosei Maru
E No.63
PB Teimei Maru
PB Sensan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Seahorse

SS Seahorse launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Syoto Maru
Seahorse diving deep ....

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 11487 troops, 471 guns, 491 vehicles, Assault Value = 4385

Defending force 104123 troops, 784 guns, 686 vehicles, Assault Value = 1883

Japanese ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sendai at 121,60

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 5

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
DD Retivyj
DD Ryanyj

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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Night Naval bombardment of Iwaki at 116,59 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-100-II Tony: 9 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-Sa Irving: 13 damaged
Ki-102b Randy: 3 damaged

20 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD Raziashchij
DD Rezkij
DD Rekordnyj
DD Redkij, Shell hits 1
DD Revnotsnyj
DD Reshitelnyj
DD Retivyj
DD Rezhvyj
DD Rastoropnyj
DD Ryanyj

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 34
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 1

DD Raziashchij firing at Iwaki

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Singkep at 49,88

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 8
Spitfire VIII x 14
Thunderbolt II x 7
TBM-3 Avenger x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Konzan Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
E No.8, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

xAK China Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x TBM-3 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sandakan at 70,88

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 31
D4Y4 Judy x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y4 Judy: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Wrangler, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sandakan at 70,88

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 56
D4Y4 Judy x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y4 Judy: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Wrangler, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
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The Bear is coming.

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[font="Times New Roman"]August 13-15, 1945[/font]
[font="Trebuchet MS"]TOKYO NUKED!!![/font]

A pic below of the damage from the hit on the 14th. Looks very light, although VPs accumulated to about 3k+ from the previous turn. Much less devastating than I'd feared. No air factories harmed that I can see, although I guess some factories must have been destroyed to have such a large VP count. I'd have to look at a before and after to work it out, but feel fine about it so may not take the time. [:)]

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Morning Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 78 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 38
N1K5-J George x 22
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-84a Frank x 8
Ki-84b Frank x 44
Ki-102b Randy x 33

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

ATOMIC BOMB hits 1

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Where will he use the other one?
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Sub attack near Daito Shoto at 102,73

Japanese Ships
xAK Sakido Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
E Hasu
AV Kiyokawa Maru
xAK Taijima Maru
xAK Takaoka Maru
E Takashima
E Iki

Allied Ships
SS Darter, hits 32, heavy damage

SS Darter launches 6 torpedoes at xAK Sakido Maru

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12211 troops, 511 guns, 522 vehicles, Assault Value = 4716

Defending force 105593 troops, 776 guns, 684 vehicles, Assault Value = 1966

Japanese ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Agrihan at 115,82, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
E No.69, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
E No.71, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
E No.81, Shell hits 8, and is sunk


Allied Ships
DD Stoddard

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TF 745 encounters mine field at Fusan (103,55)

Allied Ships
SS Tang, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-102b Randy x 9

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Sub attack near Ulithi at 97,87

Japanese Ships
TK Eiyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Ogura Maru #1
TK Hakko Maru
TK Hishi Maru #2
PB Kyo Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS Sand Lance

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Morning Air attack on Kushiro , at 123,53

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 44,530 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-83 x 41

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 11
F6F-5 Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-83 sweeping at 41530 feet

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Sub attack near Ulithi at 97,87

Japanese Ships
PB Sozan Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Hishi Maru #2
PB Kyo Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS Sand Lance

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Ground combat at Praboemoelih (48,92)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 473 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 28

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 15

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Praboemoelih !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
50th Indian Para Bde /2

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[font="Times New Roman"]August 16, 1945[/font]
On the 16th the Allies go back for another night strike on the industry of Nagasaki. It's moderately successful again in spite of NF presence and some losses to the B-29s. He also uses some of the beasts to hit fields here, but from 28k!! [X(] They actually do get hits on the airfield and destroy a handful of airframes on the ground.

Big sweeps follow the next day, but somehow the CAP gets the upper hand even against the Corsairs, which are usually the mop-up crew. No day strikes followed, which was good since the sweeps eventually wore out the CAP.
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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 10
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 14
Ki-102c Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak


Manpower hits 1
Fires 360

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 8
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 11
Ki-102c Randy x 9

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 26
Fires 11200


Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 8
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 11
Ki-102c Randy x 9

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 28000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 8
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 10
Ki-102c Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 5
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 8
Ki-102c Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged

Manpower hits 22
Fires 25800

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 4
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 6
Ki-102c Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Manpower hits 11
Fires 32250

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 1
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 3
Ki-102c Randy x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 4 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Manpower hits 1
Fires 25755

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 52
J7W1 Shinden x 46
N1K5-J George x 89
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 14
Ki-100-II Tony x 11

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 50
J7W1 Shinden x 45
N1K5-J George x 85
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 14
Ki-100-II Tony x 10

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 48,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 41
J7W1 Shinden x 42
N1K5-J George x 74
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 12
Ki-100-II Tony x 8

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 33
J7W1 Shinden x 36
N1K5-J George x 58
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-100-II Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 47,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 25
J7W1 Shinden x 26
N1K5-J George x 40
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-100-II Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 3 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 16
J7W1 Shinden x 16
N1K5-J George x 31
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 7 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 23
J2M5 Jack x 5
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-84r Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 10
B-29-25 Superfort x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
H8K2 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed
B-29-25 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged


Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 17
J2M5 Jack x 4
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-84r Frank x 13

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt I x 16
B-29-25 Superfort x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 damaged
P1Y2-S Frances: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt I: 1 destroyed
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
J7W1 Shinden x 8
N1K5-J George x 23
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-100-II Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 7 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 7
J7W1 Shinden x 7
N1K5-J George x 10
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 12
J2M5 Jack x 4
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 6

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 2
J7W1 Shinden x 2
Ki-100-II Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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A good day in the air, as B-29s hit in the North and the South and a gaggle of Allied sweepers downed.

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[font="Times New Roman"]August 17-19, 1945[/font]
Some night strikes at Nagasaki that were moderately affective, but NF did their job.

Soviets push forward, nearing the edge of Japanese controlled areas. I'll begin pulling back further soon.

Bombing continues to cripple Singapore. I think the base will begin to crumble soon. I've been getting a few pieces out to protect other bases in the DEI for later, since they'll have supply at least. I'm gearing up for the general pullback of all air groups and transports/tankers. The KB will also head back to the Home Islands beginning sometime around the turn of Sept. Dan is too careful and there are no opportunities worth using it for here. Better get it back while I can. Supported by LBA it could still be effective there, maybe.

Still some para drops in the SRA and some bombing at Palembang means I'll likely abandon that airfield. The KB is resting near Balikpapan defending that airspace while tankers pull.
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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 5

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak


Manpower hits 1
Fires 5862

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 5
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 6
Ki-102c Randy x 3

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 10 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 28000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 2
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 1
Ki-102c Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged

Manpower hits 31
Fires 60919


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 13
J2M5 Jack x 6
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-84r Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire VIII: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Spitfire VIII sweeping at 8000 feet *

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 12255 troops, 511 guns, 522 vehicles, Assault Value = 4291

Defending force 106058 troops, 767 guns, 681 vehicles, Assault Value = 2012

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 13
J2M5 Jack x 5
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-84r Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 40,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 6
J2M5 Jack x 1
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-84r Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Corsair IV sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Waingapu at 64,113

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 8 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Redoubt
DD Bristol
DD Hogue

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K2 Emily: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
P1Y2-S Frances: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1b Jake: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 52

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23612 troops, 529 guns, 1305 vehicles, Assault Value = 4363

Defending force 105858 troops, 765 guns, 676 vehicles, Assault Value = 2001

Allied adjusted assault: 670

Japanese adjusted defense: 5663

Allied assault odds: 1 to 8 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
442 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 55 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 35 (10 destroyed, 25 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1140 casualties reported
Squads: 54 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 96 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 27 (6 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 141 (6 destroyed, 135 disabled)


Assaulting units:
255th Indian Tank Brigade
18th British Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
Provisionl Tank Brigade
11th (East African) Division
81st (West African) Division
8th Indian Division
26th Indian Division
Gardner's Horse Regiment
7th Australian Division
82nd (West African) Division
150th RAC Regiment
2nd British Division
25th Indian Division
6th Australian Division
9th Australian Division
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1st Indian Medium Regiment
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
21st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
12th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
168th Field Artillery Regiment
III Indian Corps
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
134th Medium Regiment
181st Field Artillery Regiment
8th Mahratta AT Gun Regiment
134th (East Ang) Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
56th Heavy AA Regiment
3rd Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
3rd West African AA Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
88th Medium Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
XXXIV Indian Corps
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
3rd (Special Force) Division

Defending units:
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
26th Tank Regiment
1st INA Subhas Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
120th Div /2
65th Naval Guard Unit
3rd INA Azad Regiment
29th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd INA Gandhi Regiment
4th INA Nehru Regiment
44th Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 8th SNLF
27th Ind.Mixed Brigade
Kure 3rd SNLF
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Amphibious Brigade
4th Raiding Regiment
65th Brigade
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF
49th Tank Battalion
33rd Division
2nd Raiding Rgt /1
2nd South Seas Det.
Southern Fleet
91st JAAF AF Bn
25th Army
5th INA Regiment
94th JAAF AF Bn
80th JAAF AF Bn
105th JAAF AF Bn
30th JAAF AF Bn
41st JAAF AF Bn
3rd Mortar Battalion
9th Air Division
29th Army
7th Indpt SNLF Coy /1
40th JAAF AF Bn
4th Air Division
1st RF Gun Battalion
9th Ind. Engineer Regiment
43rd Const Co
13th Ind.Hvy.Art. Regiment
87th JAAF AF Bn
93rd JAAF AF Bn
89th JAAF AF Bn
111th Naval Construction Battalion
28th JAAF AF Bn
5th Field AF Construction Battalion
Yokosuka 4th SNLF /2
80th Garrison Battalion
18th Area Army
12th Base Force
17th JAAF AF Bn
Maraisha JNAF Base Force
3rd Air Division
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
201st JAAF AF Bn
23rd JAAF AF Bn /1

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Ground combat at Liaoyuan (105,40)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 79902 troops, 888 guns, 3624 vehicles, Assault Value = 2174

Defending force 3019 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 95

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied adjusted assault: 1422

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 1422 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Liaoyuan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4015 casualties reported
Squads: 121 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 90 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
8th Gd.Motorcycle Regiment
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
927th SU Regiment
735th SU Regiment
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
5th Guards Tank Corps
1197th SU Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Manchukuo Distr/A Division
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