The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)

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My troops look to alll reach the x3 terrain blockade point just outside Sian. I hope these troops can hold for a few bloody attacks, but who knows at this stage with Allied firepower as it is. They're digging in now.

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This is probably my best IJN fighter group, which has been defending at Hakodate and on Hokkaido throughout. A lot of golden boys here, and the Allies will find it difficult to get a good VP score if I can keep them in N1K5s.

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Resources and supplies are dropping quickly now. At this rate I think I'll be out by the end of 45.

Hard lessns to learn when you see 45 every 4-5 years! Makes it tough to learn and get it right. This time I'm suffering for resources, not fuel. Maybe the key is that it'll always be something. There is no perfect Japanese endgame economy. [;)]
Well, I think you are correct: you will be short something before the others … I think the key is that it isn't much before you would be short of most of the others as well.

It seems now like my fuel will be good until the end. Especially with less ships moving around. The Northern strategy cut off a lot of resources early and I didn't really look at that early enough to build a bigger pool.

Resources also take a big hit from Manpower bombing as they're usually the largest group of points at any big base on the home islands, and thus burn up first.
Unless of course you have more fuel, then it burns fastest! [;)]

Yeah, if you had monitored your resources earlier you might have mitigated your current situation a bit. Maybe you end up with another 100,000 supply tops. Not really going to impact it much more than that. In other words, once the allies are able bomb the HI, bad things happen. Nothing new there.

You're in really good shape considering the date here. Sure, you run out of resources, so what? The plan is to get into '45 before running out of fuel/resources and then you finish the war easily on your HI/Supply reserves. You're 9/45. You got this easily.


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Well, I think you are correct: you will be short something before the others … I think the key is that it isn't much before you would be short of most of the others as well.

It seems now like my fuel will be good until the end. Especially with less ships moving around. The Northern strategy cut off a lot of resources early and I didn't really look at that early enough to build a bigger pool.

Resources also take a big hit from Manpower bombing as they're usually the largest group of points at any big base on the home islands, and thus burn up first.
Unless of course you have more fuel, then it burns fastest! [;)]

Yeah, if you had monitored your resources earlier you might have mitigated your current situation a bit. Maybe you end up with another 100,000 supply tops. Not really going to impact it much more than that. In other words, once the allies are able bomb the HI, bad things happen. Nothing new there.

You're in really good shape considering the date here. Sure, you run out of resources, so what? The plan is to get into '45 before running out of fuel/resources and then you finish the war easily on your HI/Supply reserves. You're 9/45. You got this easily.


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He has still not bombed either Tokyo or Osaka. Can't figure that out. A few strikes to each of those and I'd be running on fumes for sure. It's interesting what the Allies can't see and don't know unless they've been on this side.

I'm beginning to withdraw all excess air units and I've turned off replacements for units on the Home Islands long ago. Might even withdraw some engineers and other less needed units now. Anything to save.
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[font="Times New Roman"]September 14-17, 1945[/font]
The Allies turn their 4Es on the bases I nKorea, including the big one at Fusan. Taking out a level 9 airbase next to the Home Islands should be dangerous, and the Allies do suffer some losses, but their mix of sweeps and B-29s massed in one day is too much for the staunchest of defenses. These were not our top groups. A lot of training groups and obsolete fighters. Fusan is demolished and the Allies burn 350+ planes to about 200+ of their own lost. Yuck.

All troops are moving back in order, and there is no place the Soviets can halt the process to cut them off before they reach Korea. That's good at least.

The FR-1 Fireball makes it appearance. Wow.
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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 41,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 2
A7M2 Sam x 24
N1K5-J George x 26
Ki-84r Frank x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 9 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 44,900 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 16
N1K5-J George x 18
Ki-84r Frank x 5
Ki-100-II Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 1
A7M2 Sam x 10
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak


Manpower hits 1
Fires 16298

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Ground combat at Heijo (103,47)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3150 troops, 0 guns, 245 vehicles, Assault Value = 3741

Defending force 9009 troops, 117 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 229

Allied adjusted assault: 69

Japanese adjusted defense: 212

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), leaders(+), preparation(-)
fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 45 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 40 (28 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
259th Tank Brigade
258th Tank Brigade
1197th SU Regiment
171st Tank Brigade
5th Guards Tank Corps
338th Guards SU Regiment
335th Guards SU Regiment
480th Guards SU Regiment
378th Guards SU Regiment
214th Tank Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
61st Tank Division
395th Guards SU Regiment
339th Guards SU Regiment
1019th SU Regiment
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
73rd Tank Brigade
257th Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
125th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
478th Guards SU Regiment
74th Tank Brigade
927th SU Regiment
72nd Tank Brigade
479th Guards SU Regiment
1012th SU Regiment

Defending units:
137th Division
100th Field AA Battalion
19th JNAF AF Unit



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 15, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 18 NM, estimated altitude 45,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 35
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 6
Ki-100-I Tony x 19
Ki-100-II Tony x 8
Ki-102b Randy x 41

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 70 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 5
P-51D Mustang x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak


Manpower hits 3
Fires 8428

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 110,45 (near Rashin)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 39357 troops, 599 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1284

Defending force 34362 troops, 285 guns, 81 vehicles, Assault Value = 997

Allied adjusted assault: 506

Japanese adjusted defense: 1339

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1004 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 99 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2147 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 205 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 29 (1 destroyed, 28 disabled)


Assaulting units:
59th Rifle Division
97th Rifle Division
264th Rifle Division

Defending units:
12th Division
111th Division
9th Border Defense Fortress
1st Infantry Regiment
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
31st RF Gun Battalion

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Ground combat at Heijo (103,47)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 116444 troops, 1090 guns, 6243 vehicles, Assault Value = 4320

Defending force 1151 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Allied adjusted assault: 4605

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 4605 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Heijo !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1553 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 132 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2


Assaulting units:
378th Guards SU Regiment
73rd Tank Brigade
165th Tank Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
75th Tank Brigade
1019th SU Regiment
257th Tank Brigade
335th Guards SU Regiment
171st Tank Brigade
214th Tank Brigade
259th Tank Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
478th Guards SU Regiment
72nd Tank Brigade
258th Tank Brigade
339th Guards SU Regiment
1197th SU Regiment
395th Guards SU Regiment
927th SU Regiment
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
479th Guards SU Regiment
480th Guards SU Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
61st Tank Division
209th Tank Brigade
210th Tank Brigade
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
338th Guards SU Regiment
125th Tank Brigade
1012th SU Regiment

Defending units:
100th Field AA Battalion
19th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Tsingtao (95,47)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16879 troops, 278 guns, 400 vehicles, Assault Value = 470

Defending force 6646 troops, 93 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 122

Allied adjusted assault: 410

Japanese adjusted defense: 101

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
612 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 48 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 24 (3 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
93rd Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
IX Corps Artillery

Defending units:
13th Ind.Mixed Regiment
22nd Special Base Force
11th RGC Ind. Brigade
Ching Tao Special Base Force

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 17, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 16
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 39
Ki-100-I Tony x 37
Ki-100-II Tony x 33
Ki-102b Randy x 53

Allied aircraft
FR-1 Fireball x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 3 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 23 NM, estimated altitude 40,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 33
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 65
Ki-100-I Tony x 30
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 42,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 30
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 53
Ki-100-I Tony x 28
Ki-102b Randy x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 4 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 11
N1K5-J George x 12
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 31
Ki-100-I Tony x 34
Ki-100-II Tony x 26
Ki-102b Randy x 50

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 44,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 11
N1K5-J George x 10
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 2
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 14
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 26
Ki-100-I Tony x 31
Ki-100-II Tony x 17
Ki-102b Randy x 47

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 80
F4U-4 Corsair x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed
Ki-84b Frank: 6 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 8
N1K5-J George x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 2
Ki-84a Frank x 8
Ki-84b Frank x 15
Ki-100-I Tony x 20
Ki-100-II Tony x 6
Ki-102b Randy x 30

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 18
B-29-25 Superfort x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 1 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 1 damaged
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
Ki-100-I Tony: 3 destroyed on ground

Ki-100-II Tony: 2 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground
J1N1-Sa Irving: 3 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 6 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-II KAI Helen: 8 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 18 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 73

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Fusan , at 103,55

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 3
N1K5-J George x 1
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4
Ki-84a Frank x 6
Ki-84b Frank x 10
Ki-100-I Tony x 6
Ki-100-II Tony x 1
Ki-102b Randy x 13

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-I Tony: 6 damaged
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-102b Randy: 7 damaged
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-II KAI Helen: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed on ground
J1N1-Sa Irving: 4 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground
A6M5d-S Zero: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III KAI Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 4 destroyed, 26 damaged

Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 13000 feet
Airfield Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Wow! FR-1's really cut up your units!

I've never had it cut up my units like this … must be the climb rate?
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Wow! FR-1's really cut up your units!

I've never had it cut up my units like this … must be the climb rate?

These weren't the best groups I have, firstly, but it's also that I've setup for low-layered CAP to focus on frustrating the P-47/P-51 high sweeps. The planes that can fly fast with high maneuver at low altitudes (like the Spit and Corsair) do much better. I think the Fireball is in this category but I'd have to look at the stats.
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[font="Times New Roman"]September 18-20, 1945[/font]
The Allied sweeps are tough right now with the addition of better Corsairs, Fireballs, Bearcats, plus now the P-51H. Some have trouble one turn or another, but overall he's mixing it up enough to get about 3:1 with 2/3 of the sweeps. I'll not be able to defend the air in Korea except occasionally.

The B-29s try a very high raid on Nagaoka which yields very few hit for the number of bombers involved and also results in the loss of a handful to the Nf, which seem able to get up in time to 25k with their radar.

Bombardments at Keijo have been devastated by the defensive counterfire so far, but the Soviets have more moving in. All retreats are going steadily toward Kanko, but shouldn't all reach there for another 10-12 days. Until then I'll have about 3.5k AV at Keijo in 1-2 days, 3k AV at Genzan with another 1k AV in each of the two x3 terrain hexes between, which are hard to reach from the West side of the peninsula.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 19, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Keijo , at 103,50

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 37,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 11
Ki-102b Randy x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed


No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Nagasaki/Sasebo , at 102,58

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 43,700 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 48
J7W1 Shinden x 38
N1K5-J George x 46
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 1

Allied aircraft
FR-1 Fireball x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
FR-1 Fireball: 3 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 40,300 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 36
J7W1 Shinden x 16
N1K5-J George x 47
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 49
Ki-84b Frank x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 65
Ki-102a Randy x 29
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 123

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
J7W1 Shinden: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 5 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet
18 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet
16 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet
15 x F4U-1D Corsair sweeping at 39300 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 29
J7W1 Shinden x 13
N1K5-J George x 36
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 41
Ki-84b Frank x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 54
Ki-102a Randy x 22
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
F8F-1 Bearcat x 37

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F8F-1 Bearcat: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F8F-1 Bearcat sweeping at 10000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 24
J7W1 Shinden x 11
N1K5-J George x 35
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 39
Ki-84b Frank x 7
Ki-84r Frank x 50
Ki-102a Randy x 22
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 84

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 4 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
13 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
13 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
13 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet
5 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 21
J7W1 Shinden x 8
N1K5-J George x 29
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 35
Ki-84b Frank x 6
Ki-84r Frank x 40
Ki-102a Randy x 19
Ki-102b Randy x 12

Allied aircraft
P-47N Thunderbolt x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-47N Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-47N Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 42,600 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 16
Ki-83 x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 22
Ki-100-II Tony x 17

Allied aircraft
P-51H Mustang x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51H Mustang: 6 destroyed

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23106 troops, 602 guns, 697 vehicles, Assault Value = 749

Defending force 53676 troops, 483 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 1437

Japanese ground losses:
285 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 19 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
IV Indian Corps
4th Field Artillery Battalion
86th Medium Regiment
85th Medium Regiment
77th Coast AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
Tenth US Army
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
I Corps Artillery
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
251st Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
87th Medium Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
30th Division
9th Mongol Cavalry Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
89th Division
1st Amphibious Brigade
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
22nd RF Gun Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Keijo (103,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 105045 troops, 901 guns, 5931 vehicles, Assault Value = 5150

Defending force 105245 troops, 982 guns, 389 vehicles, Assault Value = 2567

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 46 (20 destroyed, 26 disabled)


Assaulting units:
165th Tank Brigade
378th Guards SU Regiment
171st Tank Brigade
259th Tank Brigade
1019th SU Regiment
257th Tank Brigade
82nd Tank Battalion
214th Tank Brigade
209th Tank Brigade
480th Guards SU Regiment
1197th SU Regiment
927th SU Regiment
10th Mechanized Corps
335th Guards SU Regiment
210th Tank Brigade
5th Guards Tank Corps
258th Tank Brigade
206th Tank Brigade
338th Guards SU Regiment
61st Tank Division
125th Tank Brigade
72nd Tank Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
73rd Tank Brigade
75th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
479th Guards SU Regiment
478th Guards SU Regiment
74th Tank Brigade
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
339th Guards SU Regiment
1012th SU Regiment

Defending units:
79th Division
122nd Division
112th Division
128th Division
124th Division
Hachijo-jima Naval Guard Unit
320th Division
96th Division
Manchukuo Guards Brigade
40th JNAF AF Unit
30th Mortar Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Air Division
27th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
33rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
Kwantung Army
10th Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
58th Army
86th Field AA Battalion
22nd Field AA Machinecannon Company
1st Field Artillery Regiment
46th Air Defense AA Battalion
31st Mortar Battalion
17th Naval Construction Battalion
29th RF Gun Battalion
17th Area Army
138th JAAF AF Bn

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Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 28
P1Y2-S Frances x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 20

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 5
B-29B Superfort x 33

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 21 damaged

Manpower hits 9
Fires 5110


Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 25000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 22
P1Y2-S Frances x 7
Ki-102c Randy x 17

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 5840

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 25000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Night Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 22
P1Y2-S Frances x 4
Ki-102c Randy x 14

Allied aircraft
B-29B Superfort x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29B Superfort: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Manpower hits 1
Fires 6570

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 25000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 30
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 33
Ki-84r Frank x 31

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 9 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 6 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 7 destroyed

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For what it's worth, the Ki-94-II is now researching. If made, this will be a very limited run of production. It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too, so it'll be a moot point.

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It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...
Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes [:D]
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.
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ORIGINAL: obvert
It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...
Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes [:D]
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.

The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.
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ORIGINAL: obvert
It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...
Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes [:D]
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.

You totally lost me here. Maybe I'm just reading this before having my second cuppa Joe. [&:]

EDIT: wait! I see my typo now. Got it! [:D]
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ORIGINAL: GetAssista
ORIGINAL: obvert
It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too...
Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes [:D]
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.

The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.

Yeah. The difference between August and September is already being felt in terms of types and quantity of airframes available. When the B-17G groups get in the action I fear it'll get a lot tougher. [:(]
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For what it's worth, the Ki-94-II is now researching. If made, this will be a very limited run of production. It'd be cool to use and see how tit works, but the Allies will have jets by then too, so it'll be a moot point.

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They definitely will not stand up to P80As.

In my Ironman game the AI got them early so I had to face them with lesser planes, but the AI also got so many models beyond the KI-94-IIs that they really didn't stand out.
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Those work best when in pairs I believe, and usually you don't need planes [:D]
Also, the Allies will not be a hindrance if you play your cards right.

The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.

Yeah. The difference between August and September is already being felt in terms of types and quantity of airframes available. When the B-17G groups get in the action I fear it'll get a lot tougher. [:(]

I think it was you who made a statement recently somewhere that the Allies will never get an air frame that can maneuver with the more maneuverable Japanese planes. I immediately thought, "Oh yeah, wait until he gets a look at the FR-1. Then I actually looked up the maneuver rates of some of the Japanese air frames and was immediately sobered. Even the Fireball, which has the highest low level maneuver ratings of any Allied air frame, doesn't come close to matching that of the Japanese air frames.

However, even though it doesn't achieve the maneuver ratings of the Japanese air frames, the FR-1 is a tough customer with excellent speed and climb rate. The build rate is fairly low allowing a small number of squadrons to be converted to it.
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ORIGINAL: obvert

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The Allies are halfway there already: the Fireball was a piston-jet hybrid.

Yeah. The difference between August and September is already being felt in terms of types and quantity of airframes available. When the B-17G groups get in the action I fear it'll get a lot tougher. [:(]

I think it was you who made a statement recently somewhere that the Allies will never get an air frame that can maneuver with the more maneuverable Japanese planes. I immediately thought, "Oh yeah, wait until he gets a look at the FR-1. Then I actually looked up the maneuver rates of some of the Japanese air frames and was immediately sobered. Even the Fireball, which has the highest low level maneuver ratings of any Allied air frame, doesn't come close to matching that of the Japanese air frames.

However, even though it doesn't achieve the maneuver ratings of the Japanese air frames, the FR-1 is a tough customer with excellent speed and climb rate. The build rate is fairly low allowing a small number of squadrons to be converted to it.

The low-layered CAP is kind of like the MiG-17 tactics in the Vietnam war against the USAAF. Low and slow, but with a lot of bait and shoot teams.

Spits are the ultimate tool against this tactic since they can do it all; speed, maneuver and firepower. Just not always the range the Allies need.
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Here is a look at the three new USN airframes in relation to the Spit VIII, which is the best for mid-level sweeps against the low-layered CAP. The Fireball certainly has the best manoeuvre to combat this tactic, matched with its good speed and durability. It's guns are suspect, with only the 4 x 50cal MG, wing mounted.

The F4U-4, which being a speed upgrade, has reduced manoeuvre from the F4U-1D, which has been the best sweeper at mid-altitudes.

The Bearcat is very good all around, and has done well so far.

I'm lucky the Fireball comes in low production numbers!


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[font="Times New Roman"]September 21-22, 1945[/font]
The Allies begin to attempt a cull of Japanese fighters in Central China at Wuchang. This base and Hankow are used together, but it won't be long before the bombers come and I'll need to evacuate. That's really fine though now as I've done what I need to ensure units get into the x3 to try and form blocks in the mountains surrounding the Central Plains.

The Allies begin a slow march across the SRA taking out Soerabaja. This area has only stragglers now from other captured bases, and I'll attempt to make Balikpapan a last stand base since it has plentiful supply and must be invaded amphibiously.

All ships now moving toward Babeldaob and up through to the Home Islands. The vast majority will make it and deliver the goods right up until the beginning of October it looks like. That's icing on the economic cake for sure. [8D]

Troops have now moved into Genzan, and some appear to be moving across country to the hexes between Genzan and Keijo. My forces are there but I need another week to really flecsh those blocking points out. They should get 1k AV each to start, then another 1k AV each once the troops coming from Mukden arrive shortly thereafter. I've got tanks racing from the Rashin area to fill in as well now, and I'll be sending a few free IDs and tank brigades from Honshu to provide emergency reserve in Korea. I'll also begin to send in some small naval guards to hold the unoccupied coastal hexes to dissuade any 'Inchon' style landings.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 21, 1945
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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 6
N1K5-J George x 11
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5
Ki-84r Frank x 14
Ki-100-II Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 21
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 9
Ki-83 x 20
Ki-84r Frank x 30
Ki-100-II Tony x 12

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 4 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 7 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 3
N1K5-J George x 29
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 8
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-100-II Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 8 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Wuchang , at 84,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 3
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 8
Ki-100-II Tony x 6

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 6 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 4
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 7
Ki-83 x 18
Ki-84r Frank x 23
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 3 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on 10th Division, at 106,44 (Tunghua)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
Pe-2 x 27

Allied aircraft losses
Pe-2: 13 damaged
Pe-2: 5 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Pe-2 bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Nagaoka , at 114,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 14
Ki-102b Randy x 7

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 17000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 6
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 10
Ki-83 x 27
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 28

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 65

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 4 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 5 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
4 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38L Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet

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Ground combat at Soerabaja (56,104)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30074 troops, 171 guns, 668 vehicles, Assault Value = 1085

Defending force 8512 troops, 100 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 147

Allied adjusted assault: 460

Japanese adjusted defense: 73

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 6)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2063 casualties reported
Squads: 39 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 74 disabled
Guns lost 34 (14 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Allied ground losses:
475 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Assaulting units:
4th Australian/A Division
X Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
785th Tank Battalion
767th Tank Battalion
102nd(Sep) Infantry Regiment
2nd Australian Division
779th Tank Battalion
6th Infantry Div /19
198th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Yokosuka 4th SNLF
21st Ind. Engineer Regiment
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF /6
Maraisha JNAF Base Force
1st JNAF Coy
18th JAAF AF Bn
10th Area Fleet
41st JNAF AF Unit
7th Naval Const Bn /2

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Ground combat at Genzan (105,48)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 10623 troops, 504 guns, 286 vehicles, Assault Value = 1236

Defending force 124590 troops, 1507 guns, 613 vehicles, Assault Value = 3296

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 19 (8 destroyed, 11 disabled)


Assaulting units:
76th Tank Brigade
275th Rifle Division
77th Tank Brigade
203rd Tank Brigade
262nd Rifle Division
310th Guards Mortar Regiment
110th/355th AA Battalion
181st Mortar Regiment
3rd Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division

Defending units:
23rd Division
139th Division
10th Ind.Mixed Regiment
121st Division
80th Ind.Mixed Brigade
137th Division
49th Infantry Regiment
136th Division
3rd Ind.Tank Brigade
25th Division
77th Ind.Mixed Brigade
34th Tank Regiment
123rd Division
312th Division
133rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Eiko-wan Fortress
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Area Army
91st Field AA Battalion
7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
13th Mortar Battalion
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
7th Field AF Construction Battalion
42nd Air Defense AA Battalion
131st IMB Artillery Battalion
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
24th RF Gun Battalion
23rd Field AA Machinecannon Company
22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Regiment
17th Mortar Battalion
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
16th Field AA Machinecannon Company
48th JAAF AF Bn
32nd RF Gun Battalion
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
34th JAAF AF Bn
15th Mortar Battalion
19th Field AA Machinecannon Company
15th JNAF AF Unit
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Chosen JNAF Base Force

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[font="Times New Roman"]September 23-24, 1945[/font]
The Allies close Hankow after numerous effective sweeps and bombing strikes.

Somehow also they try for Keijo fields but sweeps seem not to fly. The B-29s arrive first and it's a massacre! Shot down 30+ today. Nice.

The Allies continue to sweep in Hokkaido and suffer 1:1 altogether against our top IJN groups.

Tension falls but Genzan bombardments yield horrible results so far for the Allies, which is a great sign for the defending possibilities here in spite of the massive firepower advantage the Allies will have.
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Morning Air attack on Madras Police Battalion, at 81,33 , near Lanchow

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K5-J George x 5
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 24
Ki-84r Frank x 20
Ki-100-II Tony x 23

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 4 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 5 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x F4U-4 Corsair sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 1
Ki-83 x 11
Ki-84r Frank x 18
Ki-100-II Tony x 9

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 5 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 1
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-83 x 8
Ki-84r Frank x 12
Ki-100-II Tony x 5

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 12
Thunderbolt II x 1
P-51D Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-83: 1 destroyed
Ki-84r Frank: 3 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 12000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Hankow , at 85,50

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 3
Ki-83 x 3
Ki-84r Frank x 4
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 8
Thunderbolt II x 15
A-20G Havoc x 3
B-24J Liberator x 15
P-51D Mustang x 18
PBJ-1J Mitchell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-83: 3 damaged
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed on ground
L2D2 Tabby: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 3 damaged
Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed by flak
Thunderbolt II: 3 destroyed
A-20G Havoc: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 5 damaged
PBJ-1J Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PBJ-1J Mitchell bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 41
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 16
Ki-84b Frank x 34
Ki-84r Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 72

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-43-IV Oscar: 2 destroyed on ground

Ki-84b Frank: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Ki-84b Frank: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-84r Frank: 2 damaged
Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 9 destroyed, 45 damaged[&o]

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 7th Base Force, at 83,41 (Sian)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 18

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 15 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 72 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K5-J George x 17
Ki-43-IV Oscar x 1
Ki-84b Frank x 13
Ki-84r Frank x 1

Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42801 troops, 874 guns, 1010 vehicles, Assault Value = 1984

Defending force 53771 troops, 482 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 1415

Allied adjusted assault: 593

Japanese adjusted defense: 4153

Allied assault odds: 1 to 7

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1552 casualties reported
Squads: 65 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 25 (3 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1120 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 87 (14 destroyed, 73 disabled)


Assaulting units:
3rd Cavalry Regiment
33rd Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
40th Infantry Division
5th Indian Division
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
Tenth US Army
85th Medium Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Field Artillery Battalion
XI Corps Artillery
251st Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
I Corps Artillery
87th Medium Regiment
86th Medium Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
9th Mongol Cavalry Division
89th Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
30th Division
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Amphibious Brigade
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd RF Gun Battalion
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Tientsin (95,41)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 95799 troops, 1319 guns, 4510 vehicles, Assault Value = 6110

Defending force 23858 troops, 122 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 746

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Allied adjusted assault: 2568

Japanese adjusted defense: 2717

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)
preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1391 casualties reported
Squads: 23 destroyed, 156 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 25 (2 destroyed, 23 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1237 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 205 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 37 (1 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Vehicles lost 70 (10 destroyed, 60 disabled)


Assaulting units:
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
5th Australian Division
710th Tank Battalion
172nd Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
6th Rifle Division
762nd Tank Battalion
52nd Rifle Division
37th Infantry Division
54th Engr-Sapper Bde
33rd Tank Battalion
243rd Rifle Division
43rd Tank Brigade
766th Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
735th SU Regiment
1st Guards Airborne Division
19th Guards Rifle Division
50th Tank Brigade
355th Rifle Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
XV Indian Corps
461st Mortar Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
77th Heavy AA Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
XIV US Corps
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
53rd Army
239th/376th AA Battalion
152nd Cannon Brigade
134th Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion

Defending units:
69th Division
91st Division
7th NCPC Infantry Brigade

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Ground combat at Genzan (105,48)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 43686 troops, 1057 guns, 783 vehicles, Assault Value = 2184

Defending force 124558 troops, 1489 guns, 598 vehicles, Assault Value = 3317

Allied ground losses:
290 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (7 destroyed, 18 disabled)


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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 16
N1K5-J George x 40
Ki-100-II Tony x 4

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 14
N1K5-J George x 35
Ki-100-II Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 9
N1K5-J George x 25
Ki-100-II Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
P-38L Lightning x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 3 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-38L Lightning: 3 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 35
N1K5-J George x 17
Ki-100-II Tony x 7

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 4 destroyed
N1K5-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed

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Afternoon Air attack on Hakodate , at 119,53

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 13
N1K5-J George x 15
Ki-100-II Tony x 3

Allied aircraft
P-51D Mustang x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K5-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-100-II Tony: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
P-51D Mustang: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x P-51D Mustang sweeping at 22000 feet
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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 65291 troops, 1373 guns, 1300 vehicles, Assault Value = 1851

Defending force 52202 troops, 479 guns, 97 vehicles, Assault Value = 1307

Japanese ground losses:
339 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
40th Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
33rd Infantry Division
I Corps Cmbt Engineer Regiment
5th Indian Division
86th Medium Regiment
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
4th Field Artillery Battalion
I Corps Artillery
Tenth US Army
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
IV Indian Corps
85th Medium Regiment
87th Medium Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
XI Corps Artillery
251st Field Artillery Battalion
2nd USMC Field Artillery Battalion
77th Coast AA Regiment
71/72/80 Mortar Rgt /2

Defending units:
89th Division
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
72nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st Amphibious Brigade
30th Division
16th RGC Temp. Division
128th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd RF Gun Battalion
9th Mongol Cavalry Division
12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
55th JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Tientsin (95,41)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 152537 troops, 2470 guns, 3166 vehicles, Assault Value = 6358

Defending force 22029 troops, 120 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 556

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 2952

Japanese adjusted defense: 853

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tientsin !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2855 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 231 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 22 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 47 (18 destroyed, 29 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1607 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 200 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 43 (2 destroyed, 41 disabled)


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Ground combat at Genzan (105,48)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 43811 troops, 1083 guns, 774 vehicles, Assault Value = 2145

Defending force 114524 troops, 1363 guns, 658 vehicles, Assault Value = 2905

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
243 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Vehicles lost 27 (14 destroyed, 13 disabled)

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[font="Times New Roman"]September 25, 1945[/font]
The Allies had been steadily building up at Keijo, but I hadn't realised how much until this turn. I knew the base would be safe for a while with its heavy urban defensive terrain and level 6 forts, and I've also been getting as much as possible into the hex. The Allies decided to test their luck without any ground, naval or air bombardments. They did reduce forts to 5, but in spite of getting 10k AV+ [X(][X(] of very good late war Soviet troops into the base, they ended up getting a 1:11 with massive casualties.

Almost 800 Allied devices were destroyed outright, with another 2,000+ disabled. This is about the best I could have hoped for here, and even with reduced forts, it will be tough in the next few for the Allies without a lot of prep time and bombardments. That should give time to strengthen nearby positions and dig in.
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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 35
Ki-84b Frank x 5

Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x F6F-5 Hellcat sweeping at 21000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Genzan , at 105,48

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 15
Ki-84b Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
F4U-4 Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-4 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x F4U-4 Corsair sweeping at 21000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M5 Jack x 5
Ki-102a Randy x 35

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-102a Randy: 2 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
Corsair IV: 3 destroyed


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Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 65350 troops, 1373 guns, 1300 vehicles, Assault Value = 2264

Defending force 52367 troops, 479 guns, 98 vehicles, Assault Value = 1312

Japanese ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Keijo (103,50)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 352260 troops, 5536 guns, 11047 vehicles, Assault Value = 10292

Defending force 150749 troops, 1583 guns, 427 vehicles, Assault Value = 3794

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 1947

Japanese adjusted defense: 21661

Allied assault odds: 1 to 11 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1514 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 117 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 39 (1 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
7932 casualties reported
Squads: 354 destroyed, 279 disabled
Non Combat: 46 destroyed, 704 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 161 (74 destroyed, 87 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1348 (283 destroyed, 1065 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
1019th SU Regiment
257th Tank Brigade
159th Rifle Division
209th Tank Brigade
335th Guards SU Regiment
345th Rifle Division
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
927th SU Regiment
479th Guards SU Regiment
61st Tank Division
209th Rifle Division
1197th SU Regiment
82nd Tank Battalion
5th Guards Tank Corps
371st Rifle Division
378th Guards SU Regiment
292nd Rifle Division
10th Mechanized Corps
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
45th Engr-Sapper Bde
210th Tank Brigade
34th Rifle Division
339th Guards SU Regiment
333rd Guards SU Regiment
22nd Engr-Sapper Bde
214th Tank Brigade
73rd Tank Brigade
259th Tank Brigade
1012th SU Regiment
66th Rifle Division
393rd Rifle Division
165th Tank Brigade
258th Tank Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
206th Tank Brigade
277th Engineer Battalion
8th Engr-Sapper Bde
72nd Tank Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
338th Guards SU Regiment
218th Tank Brigade
171st Tank Brigade
480th Guards SU Regiment
75th Tank Brigade
478th Guards SU Regiment
192nd Rifle Division
94th Rifle Division
125th Tank Brigade
3rd NKVD Division
192nd OM Gun Battalion
15th Army
119th Hvy.Howitzer Brigade
26th/42nd Gd.Mortar Regiment
263rd Howitzer Regiment
183rd Mortar Regiment
54th Guards Mortar Regiment
433rd Hvy Howitzer Regiment
1916th AA Regiment
465th Mortar Regiment
1648th AA Regiment
147th PVO AA Battalion
267th Cannon Regiment
1637th Howitzer Regiment
1133rd Howitzer Regiment
32nd Guards Mortar Regiment
115th/129th AA Battalion
177th Howitzer Regiment
56th Rifle Corps
9th/42nd AA Battalion
610th AT Gun Regiment
1632nd AT Gun Regiment
1123rd Cannon Regiment
26th Guards Mortar Brigade
1121st Cannon Regiment
5th Army
390th Cannon Regiment
950th Artillery Regiment
45th Howitzer Regiment
1194th BM Howitzer Regiment
100th OM Howitzer Battalion
42nd Cannon Regiment
215th Howitzer Regiment
52nd Cannon Regiment
39th Guards Mortar Regiment
182nd Howitzer Regiment
413th Howitzer Regiment
501st Artillery Regiment
87th Howitzer Regiment
1233rd Cannon Regiment
20th Guards Mortar Brigade
1140th Cannon Regiment
1589th AA Regiment
1628th AT Gun Regiment
78th/186th PVO AA Battalion
1st Far East Front
273rd Cannon Regiment
386th Howitzer Regiment
2nd Red Banner Army
67th Guards Mortar Regiment
43rd/44th AA Battalion
190th/398th PVO AA Battalion
2nd/307th Gd.Mortar Regiment
1912th TD Regiment
4th/152nd PVO AA Battalion
1192nd BM Howitzer Regiment
145th Howitzer Regiment
1590th AA Regiment
76th Cannon Regiment
1120th Cannon Regiment
1636th AT Gun Regiment
59th/721st AA Battalion
120th/401st AA Battalion
177th Mortar Regiment
36th Army
550th BM Howitzer Regiment
1124th Cannon Regiment
28th/70th AA Battalion
1131st Hvy Howitzer Regiment
1139th Cannon Regiment
472nd Mortar Regiment
15th Guards Cannon Brigade
202nd Lt.Artillery Brigade
53rd Mortar Brigade
199th BM Howitzer Regiment
56th Hvy.Mortar Brigade
1125th Cannon Regiment
10th/132nd PVO AA Battalion
72nd/74th Gd.Mortar Regiment
178th Mortar Regiment
147th Howitzer Regiment
402nd Engineer Battalion
Trans Baikal Front
1138th Cannon Regiment
283rd Guards Mortar Regiment
187th Cannon Regiment
22nd/24th AA Battalion
953rd Artillery Regiment
61st Anti-Tank Brigade
424th Hvy Howitzer Regiment
470th Mortar Regiment
162nd/390th PVO AA Battalion
1915th AA Regiment
3rd Mongolian Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
122nd Division
79th Division
160th Division
Manchukuo Guards Brigade
Combined 8th SNLF
Hachijo-jima Naval Guard Unit
107th Division
96th Division
39th Ind.Mixed Regiment
Kure 7th SNLF
112th Division
320th Division
134th Division
128th Division
124th Division
127th Div /1
17th Naval Construction Battalion
Kwantung Army
12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
31st Mortar Battalion
17th Area Army
30th Mortar Battalion
33rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
27th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
58th Army
1st Field Artillery Regiment
46th Air Defense AA Battalion
10th Mortar Battalion
86th Field AA Battalion
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Field Artillery Regiment
29th RF Gun Battalion
40th JNAF AF Unit
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
22nd Field AA Machinecannon Company
53rd Air Division
138th JAAF AF Bn

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Japanese forces are doing very well after the attack at Keijo.

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