Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)

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This turn was nothing like I envisioned...

17 Aug 43

Sub War

The I-6 was pummeled into oblivion near Vaitupu. Apparently, some DDs returned.

There seems to be a line of subs running east-west about 4 hexes north of Kavieng. I caught a Dutch sub over there, hitting her with a DC. I'm going to send some DDs to search the area. The Allied subs that been taking a pounding near Truk seem to have relocated to safer waters here. I'll bet Ted is trying to catch KB when it sorties south to tag some Allied ships.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

I had sent 2 DDs in to harass (and hopefully damage/sink) some of those APAs to make life easier for the bombers later in the day. Well, they steamed to Namatanai and found the US CV TF that is still functional. CVs Gettysburg and Hornet and CVLs Independence (smoking) and Princeton were escorted by 4 fast BBs, 3 CLAAs, 3 CLs and 10 DDs. They got out of there without a shot being fired by either side. They got to within 6k yards and didn't shoot a torpedo or fire a gun. [8|] Well, I have a feeling I know what's going to happen come sunrise.

Well, the seas south of Rabaul and Namatanai seemed to have exploded with Allied TFs today. Ted must have gotten a whiff of my carriers and I saw the APAs I was after fleeing to the SW. That CVE TF is still a few hexes SSW of Rabaul. Still sitting at Namatanai was the US CV TF. Assuming they had full loads of aircraft, they had 96 Hellcats, 72 Dauntlesses and 72 Avengers. I had 136 Zeros, 28 Judies, 36 Jills and 18 Kates. I got off the first (and only Japanese) attack, composed of 27 Judies, 27 Jills and 9 Kates, escorted by 79 Zeros. They ran into a buzz saw of Hellcats, 94 of them, along with 4 P-47s who wanted to join in the fun. Doing the math, you can see that the US carrier fighters were on some pretty darned high CAP! [X(] Bad for my attack, but not so bad for my CAP. Anyway, my Zeros shielded the bombers as well as they could. I lost 23 of 94 Zeros before the Hellcats broke through. The Hellcats didn't have a lot of time to ravage my bombers, shooting down 7 (of 27) Judies, 4 (of 27) Jills and 2 (of 9) Kates. Then my bombers went to work, mainly missing, with a few notable exceptions.

The BB South Carolina ate 2x 500kg bombs. One bounced but the other penetrated. She'll need some yard time. BB North Dakota took 2 torpedoes (from Kates! [:D]) leaving her burning and heavily damaged. I suspect she'll survive. Finally, The CV Gettysburg took a single 500kg bomb, causing an ammo storage explosion. I doubt she sinks but unless it's FOW, she'll need a repair yard too.

Flak took 15 of my bombers.

Then, it was the Allied turn to attack KB. The first attack was 30 SBDs and 32 Avengers, no fighter escort, against 56 Zeros. One Avenger made it to my ships only to get shot down attempting to launch against Hiei.

The next attack, the only one escorted, was 7 Avengers and 16 Hellcats vs. 39 Zeros. At a cost of 1 Zero, they shot down 7 Hellcats and all the Avengers. The next 3 attacks were 18 Dauntlesses, 8 Avengers and 8 Avengers. All were shot down. In the final attack 6 of 8 Avengers got through, but missed. Banzai!

Remember the small cargo convoy that was going to try for Rabaul? Well, 3 of the 4 ships were sunk from 3 attacks totaling 26 SBDs and 8 Avengers at the limit of their range. The remnants of that TF are headed back to Truk. That actually was a good thing. Many of those bombers would have probably made it through to my fleet. I'd much rather lose 3 xAKs than carriers.

Including planes written off, I lost a total of 55 planes and 53 pilots. KB has operational, 112 Zeros, 14 Judies, 27 Jills and 16 Kates. My estimate of the remaining Allied planes is 87 Hellcats, 23 Dauntlesses and 13 Avengers. Plus, a CV has a big hole in its deck and 1-2 BBs are out of the battle.

Initially, I was going to send KB back to Truk, but changed my mind. We both are relatively flush with fighters, but neither has enough bombers to break through the other's CAP. I'm moving my carriers to a point 8 hexes north of Namatanai, just to see what happens tomorrow. If the US CV TF heads south, I'll slide back down to see if there are any cripples I can clean up. If not, I'll wait it out for awhile.

The Allied bomber force trashed Kavieng, with a few going after Rabaul. None of my airfields are able to launch aircraft.

SRA
Burma


Nothing to report.

China

Arty bombardment of Chungking, killing 19 steps. Gonna be awhile.

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Arty bombardment of Chungking, killing 19 steps. Gonna be awhile.

Ya think???[:D]
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Remember the small cargo convoy that was going to try for Rabaul? Well, 3 of the 4 ships were sunk from 3 attacks totaling 26 SBDs and 8 Avengers at the limit of their range. The remnants of that TF are headed back to Truk. That actually was a good thing. Many of those bombers would have probably made it through to my fleet. I'd much rather lose 3 xAKs than carriers.

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The last battle make me think. How far could one take the fighters-heavy carrier strategy?

Suppose you do a fighters-only sweep over the enemy CVs, and follow that up with 20% fighters/80% strike planes? Would it be worthwhile?
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Suppose you do a fighters-only sweep over the enemy CVs,

Don't think sweeps are allowed over TF's at sea. Anyone?
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ORIGINAL: rustysi
Suppose you do a fighters-only sweep over the enemy CVs,

Don't think sweeps are allowed over TF's at sea. Anyone?
If not, include 1 DB or FB.
I admit this sounds crazy.
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ORIGINAL: Zorch

ORIGINAL: rustysi
Suppose you do a fighters-only sweep over the enemy CVs,

Don't think sweeps are allowed over TF's at sea. Anyone?
If not, include 1 DB or FB.
I admit this sounds crazy.
That would be escort, not sweep, with associated differences in odds ....
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Where has Mike S gone to?
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The Major gets busy betimes ...

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I understand.... but I'm Jonesin' here!!!![:D]

At any rate, hope all is well and looking forward to whenever he may make it back.

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I just realized that I owned a comb when you started this game. [:D]
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I just realized that owned a comb when you started this game. [:D]
Oh No! You don't have it anymore? How in the world will your ships avoid torpedoes now! (badabum-tish). [:'(]
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I just realized that I owned a comb when you started this game. [:D]

Now that's funny!!! [:D]
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Morning Guys! I'm here and have been all along. Ted has been in the process of preparing to sell his house then putting it on the market, so he's been MIA a lot. I have two turns to upload. While waiting for turns, I've been messing around with Forge of Freedom. I got that game when it came out (a decade or so ago). I tried it and it made no sense whatsoever. I tried again a few years later and figured some of it out but still couldn't get too far. Finally, it clicked. It's a really neat game once you figure it out. Anyway, back to the "real" game. [;)]
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18 Aug 43

Sub War

The I-26 caught a convoy north of Rangiroa and torpedoed an xAK. That's a stopover point for convoys but has been dry lately.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

The Allied bomber sorties were split between Kavieng's troops and an SNLF a hex north of Namitanai. Unexciting. Actually, it's nice because it allows my airfields in the area to repair, but they're all pretty beat up right now.

There is a TF of AKAs sitting at Namitanai right now. KB1 (Akagi, Kaga, Zuikaku) will be in range tomorrow (to the north) and a surface fleet of CA Ashigara, 2 CL, 3 DD will visit overnight. There are a few other miscellaneous TFs in the area including a CVE TF south of Rabaul. This is the fighter heavy TF. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

My elite Tojo sentai shot down a few more British 2E bombers over Warazup. 1 & 2 Tank Divisions, 5 ID and a HQ are enroute and will arrive in a few days to oust the Chindits.

China

Nothing to report.

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The Ki-84r R&D advanced to 8/45 (will be operational 2/44).

Not a lot today. Tomorrow will be a bit more exciting.
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Not a lot today. Tomorrow will be a bit more exciting.
Welcome back Mike!


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So that's probably faster than CB's method (are you listening dude?)

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19 Aug 43

Sub War

There was a supply convoy headed to Dutch Harbor. They had to run the gauntlet of Japanese subs and the I-159 took out an xAKL while the I-38 sank xAK Walter Luckenbach. The only damage to our ships was a .30 cal hit on I-159 causing 1 point of sys damage. [:D]

Down in the Balikpapan pass, the Hake was hit by a DC.

5 Fleet
4 Fleet


Nothing to report.

SE Fleet

The cruiser raiding force (1 CA, 2 CL, 3 DD) caught the supply fleet at Namatanai in the early morning hours and did a pretty nice job. When it was all said and done, our ships took no damage and an AKA was confirmed sunk with heavy damage to 3 of the other 5 AKAs and varying amounts of damage to the 3 escorting DDs. For all you Japanese CL haters, ALL of the torpedo hits were from Kinu. [:D] Every weapon in the Japanese arsenal has a use.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Namatanai at 107,125, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Ashigara
CL Yura
CL Kinu
DD Ayanami
DD Sagiri
DD Yugiri

Allied Ships
DD Wilson, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Conyngham, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
DD Preston, Shell hits 2
AKA Bellatrix, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AKA Fomalhaut, Shell hits 29, heavy fires, heavy damage
AKA Betelgeuse, Shell hits 4, on fire
AKA Alchiba, Shell hits 7
AKA Algorab, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AKA Titania, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage

I heard multiple sinking sounds after the battle and throughout the day so I figure other ships also went down but there was no confirmation.

When the sun rose, KB saw US TFs all out of range scattering to the south and SW. KB is going to head a few hexes to the SE tomorrow to se if they can catch some damaged ships (or anything else for that matter).

Finally, the Allied air force focused almost exclusively on the Japanese SNLF just north of Namatanai. The losses were minimal and it allowed the airfields in the area to repair a bit:

Manus: 81-59-2
Kavieng: 83-97-77
Rabaul: 49-100-52
Talasea: 0-97-50

I’m still pretty confident that this region will never recover.

Finally, a group of YMS entered Rabaul harbor to clear mines. They got 75 mines but paid the price:

TF 305 encounters mine field at Rabaul (106,125) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
33 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships

YMS-217, Shell hits 3, on fire
YMS-216, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-128, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-273, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-272, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-138, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

3rd Base Force firing at YMS-217
YMS-217 firing at 3rd Base Force
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-216
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-128
YMS-128 firing at 3rd Base Force
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-273
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-272
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-138
75 mines cleared

Rabaul is down to 42 mines remaining.

SRA

Nothing to report.

Burma

Nine British 2E bombers were shot down over Warazub today. My Panzer Army is still crawling down the track toward Warazub.

China

Another bombardment of Chungking netted only 6 destroyed squads. Not worth the supply expenditure. I think I’m just going to go with deliberate assaults periodically with daily bombing with ~135x 2E bombers. The bombers usually do much better.

Of course, the bombers didn’t fly today. I wonder if weather was the culprit for the dismal bombardment?

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Reinforcements:
521 Ku K-1 – IJN 2E bombers, training
521 Ku K-1 – IJN DB, training

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19 Aug 43

Finally, a group of YMS entered Rabaul harbor to clear mines. They got 75 mines but paid the price:

TF 305 encounters mine field at Rabaul (106,125) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
33 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships

YMS-217, Shell hits 3, on fire
YMS-216, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-128, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-273, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-272, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
YMS-138, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

3rd Base Force firing at YMS-217
YMS-217 firing at 3rd Base Force
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-216
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-128
YMS-128 firing at 3rd Base Force
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-273
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-272
3rd Base Force firing at YMS-138
75 mines cleared

Rabaul is down to 42 mines remaining.
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So that's probably faster than CB's method (are you listening dude?)

Wha?

That response was from March, had to find it again. I was referring to eliminating aircraft fatigue on CV's. Looks like you can do it faster by unloading from a disbanded CV. They eliminate almost all fatigue with one day of repair, as opposed to 'replacing' the A/C which may take days to repair. Try it, see what ya think.
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