The Accidental War Obvert vs Lowpe

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Best I can figure is that with realistic R&D OFF, if you turn off repairs it will stop R&D from repairing. I was under the impression that there nothing the player could do to stop r&d, and I globally shut down repairs to conserve supplies.

Well, I guess I did conserve supplies.![;)]

You don't get R&D from a partially disabled factory.

Alfred

Fixed my meaning.

[Lowpe]

Nov 4th, 1942

Harbin will fall tomorrow, there is only 120 AV there of junky garrison troops. Soviet troops moved faster than I could. I think I might be able to take it back...but probably not worth the effort given the dire straits that the Empire is in.


China has fallen pretty much. Allies have Hanoi to Lang Son so Hong Kong won't be long for the Empire either.

After a 70 day hiatus, Jack, George and Frank r&d restarted. That isn't so good.

Japan will run out of resources shortly, then oil, then fuel.

[adarbrauner]

Just a thought.

Time to give up, or maybe to get an understanding with opponent for a different more balanced match?

Maybe even a reload to some months before?

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Just a thought.

Time to give up, or maybe to get an understanding with opponent for a different more balanced match?

Maybe even a reload to some months before?

Never give up![:D]

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Never give up![:D]

BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!

[adarbrauner]

I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

[jwolf]

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: jwolf

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner
I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

Well, on second consideration, maybe some sushi can really be that bad [:D]

[Capt. Harlock]

ORIGINAL: jwolf

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

Actually, it is not difficult at all. What justification did the Soviets have when they actually did declare war? Stalin would cheerfully have invented a story about Japanese spies and saboteurs landing along with the supplies if he felt he could gain territory -- and it looks like the Soviets are gaining lots of territory in this game.

[Lowpe]

Nov 5th, 1942

I have no clue how Obvert does this, but it has happened the entire game, my absolute inability to move SR troops into a contested hex. Very frustrating.

Normally, you can rail into a contested hex (with hexside control), but you cannot rail out of a contested hex.

[Lowpe]

Harbin holds, thanks to level 4 forts and probably not an entire attack by the Soviets. Plus I thru away about 10 bombers hitting those troops, but probably the saving grace was a partial Soviet attack with lots in pursuit mode.

I have about 4,000 AV moving in on Harbin, and hope to be able to deliver some kind of set back to the Soviets here.

Ground combat at Harbin (109,39)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 44634 troops, 820 guns, 1829 vehicles, Assault Value = 1810

Defending force 8799 troops, 71 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 145

Allied adjusted assault: 262

Japanese adjusted defense: 407

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
803 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 20 (12 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 44 (9 destroyed, 35 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
300 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Assaulting units:
72nd Tank Brigade
3rd Rifle Division
73rd Tank Brigade
77th Tank Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
75th Tank Brigade
12th Rifle Division
36th Motor Rifle Division
185th Cannon Regiment
629th Cannon Regiment
390th Cannon Regiment
114th Hvy Howitzer Regiment
282nd/382nd AA Battalion
1140th Cannon Regiment
42nd Cannon Regiment
624th Cannon Regiment
10th/132nd PVO AA Battalion
147th Howitzer Regiment
411th Howitzer Regiment
1120th Cannon Regiment
1141st Cannon Regiment
262nd/264th PVO AA Battalion

Defending units:
5th Garrison Unit
4th Army
21st Fld AA Gun Co
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
88th JAAF AF Bn
4th Air Defense AA Regiment
209th JAAF AF Bn

[Lowpe]

Here is the ground combat at Tsinian by the paratroopers.

Ground combat at Tsinan (93,44)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 664 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Defending force 1562 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Allied adjusted assault: 22

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
86 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
202nd Airborne Bde /1

Defending units:
7th Manchukuo Inf Brigade

[Lowpe]

Looking at the bleak industrial picture of Japan, there is only 6K oil on Honshu, with really no prospects for getting more back except the occasional drib and drab from southern SRA.

Resources are tricky too, in that I greatly expand LI in the beginning of the game, and never conquered the resources to supply it. There is about 660K resources on Honshu, HOkkaido is sucked dry, but Sakhalin has 2.4 million. Of course getting that back is a priority, and moving the IJN surface fleet to the Kuriles will become a necessity.

The KB will have to watch over Brunei and Samah.

[Canoerebel]

I think you know how much we readers appreciate you soldiering on (without complaint!), detailing the hurt in your AAR faithfully.

Do you think it's as hopeless as it seems? What is your guesstimate as to how long Japan can make it?

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

ORIGINAL: jwolf

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner
I Wonder if Japan would have opened negotiations under such circumstances

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

Well, on second consideration, maybe some sushi can really be that bad [:D]

It gave Stalin gas... REALLY bad gas!

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I think you know how much we readers appreciate you soldiering on (without complaint!), detailing the hurt in your AAR faithfully.

Do you think it's as hopeless as it seems? What is your guesstimate as to how long Japan can make it?

Allies are approaching 2-1 in VP; I think I might be able to keep most of Korea. China is lost. I doubt I could even keep any of the port bases, as the Japanese bombardments in general are poor, and the surface fleet has to move to protect the Kuriles to keep the resource flowing into Honshu.

Honshu is strong, and the KB is around to mess with major invasions.

My guess is the Allies win in mid 43 or sooner depending upon their tactics. There has been no strategic bombing yet of Honshu, and when that starts the fall will accelerate greatly. Just the mere threat of it has weakened Japan. Although I did manage to shoot down 8 B24 and 6 Liberator II last turn but during the daytime....a night bombing of Japan this early would definitely cause Japan to crumble.

I have no reserves, except restricted troops on Honshu. No port is safe for repairs. Minimal oil.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

ORIGINAL: GetAssista

ORIGINAL: jwolf

It is difficult to conceive what would be historically plausible in an alternate world where the delivery of a crate of sushi led to a Soviet declaration of war.

Well, on second consideration, maybe some sushi can really be that bad [:D]

It gave Stalin gas... REALLY bad gas!

We would have happily imported that gas!

[Canoerebel]

Thanks, Jeff. That's a great synopsis. It really helps me understand your situation. Continue fighting, good man!

[Lowpe]

Nov 6th, 1942

Harbin doesn't get attacked today, I think the Soviets want to eliminate retreat paths and or wait for the big motorized division to the west to arrive back in Harbin. 4,000 IJA AV is moving on Harbin from three directions, hopefully I can get there.

British, Dutch, Commonwealth troops are flowing like a river from Lang Son into China proper.

[witpqs]

I have friends from Harbin. [:)]