Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome)

[bigbaba]

great to have an AAR in late 43. continue the good work gentlemen.

[Flaviusx]

Posted in wrong AAR, never mind.

[cpt flam]

turn 115
no more attack from me
the division aboard train is part of a corp arriving from the south

pools
5 570 men (- 5K) 7 forts disbanded
242 200 VEH (+ 3K)
167 512 ARM (- 20K)
1 100 Hiwis

[morvael]

And now for something completely different, a blast from the past: final moments of the German push to Leningrad in 1941, with new map graphics:

[morvael]

...and a winter raid to plunder Kalinin (Torzhok was also raided); those raids (and also poor leaders as well as loss of good units in the Rzhev encirclement) were responsible for 18 months long forced pause to rebuild Kalinin Front into a fighting force.

[cpt flam]

this was good old time [8D]

[cpt flam]

9-2 retreat continue
and partisan warfare

pool
14 600 men (+ 9K) disbanded 18 forts
245 700 VEH (+ 3K)
129 100 ARM (- 38K) 26 INF division change their TOE
4 290 Hiwis

[morvael]

On the screen above you can see a very important rail line (through Rossosh) retaken by the Red Army. Without it all units between southern half and northern half of the front have to go via Stalingrad and that's a very long detour.

[cpt flam]

turn 117 southern part

pool
8 550 men (- 6K) 10 forts disbanded
246 300 VEH
73 310 ARM (- 56K) 22 XX change TOE
4 670 Hiwis

[cpt flam]

crimea entry (or exit rather now !)

[morvael]

I thought Crimea would be worth something, but because of the unconnected rail issue it was only a truck hog. Still, they have been able to draw a significant number of German divisions including some Panzer ones from the main front.

My armament pool was at 346 030 on 10th June, floated around 250 000 for the entire summer and dropped like crazy when the new Soviet rifle squads entered production (-100k in the first September turn, in late September I had only 9k left).

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: morvael

I thought Crimea would be worth something, but because of the unconnected rail issue it was only a truck hog. Still, they have been able to draw a significant number of German divisions including some Panzer ones from the main front.

My armament pool was at 346 030 on 10th June, floated around 250 000 for the entire summer and dropped like crazy when the new Soviet rifle squads entered production (-100k in the first September turn, in late September I had only 9k left).

Wow that's a huge drop, you lose allot of factories?

[cpt flam]

9-16 they continue to push us (I will have to learn other expression)

our pool
3 370 men (- 5K) 3 forts disbanded
252 500 VEH (+ 6K)
36 011 ARM (- 37K) 20 Div "upgraded" and Croat regiment become division
9 380 Hiwis

[cpt flam]

turn 119 same place

pool
27 990 men (+ 24K) 12 forts disbanded
255 800 VEH (+ 3K)
0 ARM (- 36K) 14 XX upgraded & French III become a division
17 400 Hiwis

[morvael]

ORIGINAL: Pelton

Wow that's a huge drop, you lose allot of factories?

Sorry for belated answer. I didn't lose much, though I made two costly mistakes due to not knowing the rules at start. I posted some stats in another thread, I believe I have 70% HI, 80% ARM and 100% VEH. The problem was caused by new rifle squad model and Germans retreating along the front, which put a lot of units out of ZOC (increasing their chance to upgrade squads). My mech corps are at 40% rifle squads now, but ARM pool is back to 120k.

Meanwhile, Axis build tank like crazy now (late October).

[cpt flam]

9-30 I had to make an attack
this to "deliver" 2 division from Orel

losses (axis/russia)
2 210 /4 690 men 60 /90 art 10 /75 AFV 17 /60 AC

pool
55 940 men (+ 27K) disbanded 1 army airbase & 23 forts
259 400 VEH (+ 4K)
0 ARM
17 790 Hiwis

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: morvael

ORIGINAL: Pelton

Wow that's a huge drop, you lose allot of factories?

Sorry for belated answer. I didn't lose much, though I made two costly mistakes due to not knowing the rules at start. I posted some stats in another thread, I believe I have 70% HI, 80% ARM and 100% VEH. The problem was caused by new rifle squad model and Germans retreating along the front, which put a lot of units out of ZOC (increasing their chance to upgrade squads). My mech corps are at 40% rifle squads now, but ARM pool is back to 120k.

Meanwhile, Axis build tank like crazy now (late October).

Yes a tactic I use is to start withdrawing around T-118, the 4 turns before Mud hits.

It causes an arm pt crunch and when mud hits T-122 with lines far from railheads causes allot of trucks to be burnt up.

This will weaken SHC and give GHC some time to slow SHC advances in early summer.

Anything to buy time.

[morvael]

Soviet onmap unit listing as of turn 120:

63 Armies (including 5 Shock)
6 Tank Armies
1 Airborne Corps

124 Rifle Corps (including 42 Guards)
22 Tank Corps (including 18 Guards)
20 Cavalry Corps (including 17 Guards)
4 Mechanized Corps (including 2 Guards)

207 Rifle Divisions (including 43 Guards)
11 Mountain Divisions (including 3 Guards)
3 Guards Airborne Divisions
2 Breakthrough Artillery Divisions
1 Cavalry Division

41 Tank Brigades
6 Mechanized Brigades
4 Naval Infantry Brigades
2 Airborne Brigades

12 Fortified Regions

101 Airbases

[cpt flam]

turn 121 we are leaving Bryansk
no real possibility to attack, they form stacks of corps+ 2 div or bigger

pool
71 890 men (+ 16K) 17 forts disbanded
259 800 VEH
0 ARM 9 INF and 5 Panzer change TOE, a panzergrenadier become panzer
18 110 Hiwis

[morvael]

From turn 126, now that is something I like: