You should be looking 3 months in advance and tasking ground troops to the appropriate places.
Right now you are still backing up but it doesnt hurt to start targeting islands and bases when most troops start targeted on the east coast.
I am reading both AAR's so I dont want to comment on the actual battles. Maybe I will stop reading J3's so I can help you out later in the war.
Wargmr - you are right, no arguments. One of my biggest deficiencies as an Allied player is efficiently shuttling troops and planes from the West Coast to outlying bases, but strangely my best attributes are the setting up shipping lanes and ASW planes. Getting the right amount of "lift" to a port at one time is a lot harder than it looks at first glance! I can get CS TF's made quickly and identifying what they are and where they are going is pretty easy to me. Adding in the troops and the escorts is always a tricky adventure [:-]
Now the big reveal - The 3 month strategic plan is to establish/build up bases from Palmyra/X-Mas Is to Pago Pago and then to Suva in support of Larry's defense of Australia (or wherever he chooses)
I'm willing to turn over whatever troops Larry wants to him - but with the PP buyout between commands its a crippler for the Allies early on. Why do it? It was a concession to John3rd about playing two different players and it more realistically portrays the workings of how the "allies" were or were not "Allied".
Pearl - I resupply by forming 2 CS Transport convoys from San Fran to Pearl using about 15 Transmarine Class xAKs with 2 to 3 PC/PG as escorts. Use two or three waypoints and click the button on the bottom to have them return the same way. As you get more of this class, add them to the convoys. Use the game files I sent you to see how I've done it. In my 2/44 game, there are now 30 ships per TF and Pearl is swimming in supplies.
You are expanding the port to 8 before going back to just fort building, right?!? I build her forts up to 7.
NY59giants,
Yep you are on the money as usual - I already have one CS convoy set up with 12kt cargo (didn't pay attention to type just yet) between S.F. & P.H.
I usually try to NOT use P.H. as my primary port to the Western bases, it seems to be a sh*t magnet for Jap subs and surface raiders when I do that. I often pick the southern route - just to make the IJN travel farther and expose his AKE's at lesser bases for when he resupplies.
Yes the higher the port size the better the facilities right? That was my reasoning so far.
I'm afraid for Larry that he isn't/hasn't pulled many ships or troops back yet and it may be too late for any significant effect. It's not a complaint - Larry hasn't played as the Allies so he isn't familiar with the tactics, it's a good opportunity to learn...
I've been issue-ing orders for the ships to flee for their lives and they started moving and then J3 sank them. I've got some left and
they are still heading south but they have to pass by Balikpapan and I'm afraid that J3 has some airpower there and those ships don't
have a good defense against them. And I don't have any airpower in the area to do LRCAP. I haven't been sitting on my hands.
Larry,
It's not about sitting on your hands - its what the Allies had to do in pulling back from day one, to make any appreciable difference. As I said above -its not a criticism! You are generally on a historical path, and how can I complain when you are not experienced at playing as the Allies??? I've done the Allied side around 25 times to your one - and you see all the advice I still get AND STILL NEED?
You noted that I pulled all the supply I could to Manila and sir robin'd myself into a hole, right? You could have done a similar thing with Singapore and Sorbeaja... The bases are toast agains a superior player! It didn't/doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the game, if you learned something then it was worth it!
I'm ok with your play and its going to be all right in time... we are just going to be getting a butt whippin for the next six months...[8D] That fact is indisputable [:D] I'm learning too and probably will be learning forever with this game... don't let it get you down bud!
Luzon - when playing with stacking limits, you cannot put most of the Allied army into Bataan without overstacking. Manila is the only base that everybody can fit. The drawback is that Bataan falls quickly and opens you up to BB TF hitting you at Manila. Its late March and I'm still holding out at Manila.
I didn't know about the stacking limits here. Forget what I said.
John just sent the turn, so your on the clock...[:D]
Teaser... John says this turn may be considered an allied one! (I'm going to wait...I'm going to wait...aarrgghh!!!!)
I've been working on my moves for about an hour now. I see you're sending some more troops to Kodiak. Good deal. We need
that. J3 has been blocking my Brisbane ->Pearl route for a long time now. Is there nothing I can do except go around him?
His is going to be the most world-wide anticipated obituary in the history of the world, that I will tell you. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I've got a couple of AP's carrying supplies from either Colombo or Cape Town I don't remember which right now. Anyway, supplies are
finally starting to reach Perth. I've got about three dozen convoys on the way still.
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I thought it might be a good idea to construct a sacrificial TF to soak off some of those Kates and their torpedoes. I'm going to sail
these bad boys out of harbor and into harm's way. Maybe J3 will try to sink them instead of my DD's and so on.
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His is going to be the most world-wide anticipated obituary in the history of the world, that I will tell you. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I notice you have 7 FP groups at Pearl Harbor. Is it possible to consolidate them into fewer groups?
Probably I could withdraw some of them but most of them came off of the damaged and sunk BB's. I remember that someone wrote I could move them onto a CV and make them really large for training groups, but I'd have to go back and re-read that. Not sure I want to reduce the amount of groups either, the SOC's are proving really adept at low level bombing of shipping... they are plentiful and inexpensive - so I'm thinkin they can stay there for right now until I get my major priorities implemented first...
Thanks for the input though, and am I missing anything obvious here? [&:]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 28, 41
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Trying to make it costly for J3 here... Not working out so far!
ASW attack near Midway Island at 158,91
Japanese Ships
AK Sakito Maru
xAK Kinsyu Maru
xAK Hague Maru
xAK Atlantic Maru
xAK Nanman Maru
xAK Africa Maru
PB Nagata Maru
Allied Ships
SS Thresher, hits 3
Mini-KB is still doing their nefarious deeds down south, relief is on the way though...
Morning Air attack on TF, near Manihiki at 162,162
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Manihiki at 162,162
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
D3A1 Val x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAP Bloemfontein, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
xAP Republic, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
Morning Air attack on TF, near Aitutaki at 162,172
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
B5N2 Kate x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
xAK Liberty Glo, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 7000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP BombNo Japanese losses
Another FP bomb hit...
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 73,86
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
OS2U-3 Kingfisher x 2
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAK Tamashima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x OS2U-3 Kingfisher bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 29, 41
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John said this is the Allies turn, what do you think?
Submarine attack near Nauru Island at 126,127
Japanese Ships
xAK Nitiai Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS S-23
I happily noticed there was Catalina attacks on J3's TF, I never saw the invasion TF coming to Palmyra until these AK's were hit and lost troops. I'm sending a SCTF to Palmyra to intercept it.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 168,133
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
PBY-5 Catalina x 5
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAK Yamakaze Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Taito Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PBY-5 Catalina bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 168,133
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Allied aircraft
PBY-5 Catalina x 5
Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
xAK Shinkyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Tuyama Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x PBY-5 Catalina bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb
I left a calling card for John to express my displeasure for dropping in unannounced! [;)]
Morning Air attack on Umnak Island , at 169,51
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
SBD-2 Dauntless x 12
Day one of the Manila Seige is a minor success for the Allies, he has a lot more where the 33rd Div came from! [:(] The list of defenses are just to show my Sir Robin tendencies! Everyone into the rabbit hole!
Ground combat at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 12747 troops, 120 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 437
Defending force 57832 troops, 756 guns, 791 vehicles, Assault Value = 1664
Defending units:
2nd PA Constabulary Regiment
11th PA Infantry Division
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
1st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion
51st PA Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
71st PA Infantry Division
21st PA Infantry Division
2nd/45th PS Inf Battalion
14th PS Engineer Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
194th Tank Battalion
3rd/101st PA Battalion
Far East USAAF
North Luzon Force Corps
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
USAFFE
Cavite USN Base Force
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion
Clark Field USAAF Base Force
PAF Aviation
Manila USAAF Base Force
Bataan USN Base Force
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
South Luzon Force Corps
803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion
Naval Support - Early in the war when you land your troops at at base with no or a very small port size (2 or less) you need to have Naval Support to speed up the process (lessen time exposed to John's warships or being spotted by his subs). This will be found in two types of American LCU - USN BF or "x" USN Port Svc (there are 6 of them - A, B, C, D, E, F). I would include them in your Amphib TF that your send to bases in eastern Pacific.
Here's a quick question for you experts out there: The Dominion Monarch is scheduled to withdraw in early 42 and it's got bou cou
damage. Do I need to fix the Dominion Monarch before it can be withdrawn? Can it withdraw still damaged? It's parked at Darwin
right now and Darwin has no repair yard so it looks like it's going to take about 115 days just to get the minor damages fixed. What todo.
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I'm willing to turn over whatever troops Larry wants to him - but with the PP buyout between commands its a crippler for the Allies early on. Why do it? It was a concession to John3rd about playing two different players and it more realistically portrays the workings of how the "allies" were or were not "Allied".
That's an expensive concession!
I can understand paying PPs for units to cross national boundaries as a normal HR.
The Japanese had a similar lack of an 'alliance' - the bickering and in-fighting between the IJA and IJN was just as disruptive.
I would have countered with John not being able to operate IJN planes from IJA aviation support units, and IJA planes from Navy avaition bases. Just my view. It's your game so play to your rules.
Here's all the convoys loading at Cape Town or on their way to Perth. It's a lot of traffic and most of it is supplies.
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Larry, you might want to think about setting up convoys between the east coast of the USA and Capetown for both fuel and supplies.
I can't see much getting past his units in the Pacific so you are going to be relying on the CT route for fuel and supplies, and you will be surprised just how quickly you can m/t Capetown
ORIGINAL: Encircled
Larry, you might want to think about setting up convoys between the east coast of the USA and Capetown for both fuel and supplies.
I've already got about 5 ships plying the water between Pearl and Brisbane. It's a sort of experiment, see how long it takes etc. And
J3 is sitting in the middle of the shipping lanes w/ at least one CV and he's sinking ships left and right.
ORIGINAL: Encircled
I can't see much getting past his units in the Pacific so you are going to be relying on the CT route for fuel and supplies, and you will be surprised just how quickly you can m/t Capetown
Yeah, I've done a rough calculation and it's looking like Cape Town is going to be empty sometime between April and March of '42. So
yeah, I'll have to set up other routes.
His is going to be the most world-wide anticipated obituary in the history of the world, that I will tell you. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Just as a data point I usually have over 200 ships in the EC-to-CT route in early 1942. xAKs haul fuel OK, just not as efficiently as tankers. Run them all at Full; as long as they leave port not at 0 fuel they won't ever run dry in transit. This is a decent early use of those xAKLs you don't need in the DEI yet.
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