The Great Patriotic War (STE78 vs 821bobo)

[jwolf]

I think the Germans need to start pulling back inside the Donets.

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: jwolf

I think the Germans need to start pulling back inside the Donets.

They will need to shorten their line and trade ground against time.

The russians are able to easily move a CV80 stack if attacked from 3 sides and a CV50 stack if attacked from 2 sides.

I've noticed that rifle corps with 2 sapper regiments and a tank regiment are more efficient than rifle corps with 3 sapper regiments. I will build a dozen of medium tank regiments as I have a huge pool.

I also build a 43 engineer-brigade as SU to test the efficiency of this unit. they have 25 more sapper squads than sapper regiments and should be stronger.

[sillyflower]

ORIGINAL: STEF78


I also build a 43 engineer-brigade as SU to test the efficiency of this unit. they have 25 more sapper squads than sapper regiments and should be stronger.

If these are the ones with some labour squads in, they don't do combat: only digging.

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: sillyflower

ORIGINAL: STEF78


I also build a 43 engineer-brigade as SU to test the efficiency of this unit. they have 25 more sapper squads than sapper regiments and should be stronger.

If these are the ones with some labour squads in, they don't do combat: only digging.

I will wheck when I get the turn back...

[STEF78]

Turn 126, 11th november 1943

25th anniversary of 1918's victory... and snow all over the front.

Novgorod
A 3 inf divs stack in woods can't resist. Note that the german mountain divs which were holding the line in front of Baku are now near Leningrad.



Center

Slow advance but we can now advance where we want.

German bombers without fighters are an easy prey.



Southern bulge

Heavy fights east of Rostov and southeast of Kursk. A breakthrough South of Boguchar. a german airbase is mopped up.

[vvs007]

great game and elegant AAR

watching the events more than a year, almost every day to check for updates in the topic
could you give a little more statistics (some heroic pilots, the losses, the famous artillery and etc)?
many thanks

[jwolf]

Some good results against the Luftwaffe. I still think the Germans have to withdraw from the front line positions in the Don Bend. They certainly have the room to consolidate and I don't understand why they aren't doing it.

[chaos45]

At this point shortening the line doesnt help the Germans as much as you would think. As then the Soviets concentrate more as well...and with no combat delay on hexes a massive soviet concentration is extremely hard to stop.

The game is slowly tipping to the point the Germans will just have to start retreat or face multiple army sized encirclement losses if they arent careful

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: GDHF

great game and elegant AAR

watching the events more than a year, almost every day to check for updates in the topic
could you give a little more statistics (some heroic pilots, the losses, the famous artillery and etc)?
many thanks

Thanks for your kind words.

Tell me which statistics you're interested in.

Below some specific datas.

First, my best leaders per size of headquater. I kept Shaposhnikov at Stavka. Not sure if it's the best choice. At least it's historical.

The global win/loss battle is in my favor!



My best air units. Max TOE moved to 40 early december. I'm heavily using tactical bombers



And my best rifle corps. CV is low due to move and fights. Picture is at the end of the turn

[STEF78]

The losses. Game is intense as shown by the losses of the turn (pictures taken after 90% of the fights were done)

Ground losses



And air losses

[STEF78]

And my art unit



Rocket



and tank corps

[vvs007]

thank you very much
where is the best Soviet Marshal - Zhukov?

we look forward to continuing fighting, the more that is approaching liberation of my native city Gorlovka (114;95)[:)]; try to do it without bombers, rocket and art divisions [:-]
gg

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: jwolf
...I still think the Germans have to withdraw from the front line positions in the Don Bend. They certainly have the room to consolidate and I don't understand why they aren't doing it.

I's hard for the german to choose between time and ground... at the moment, Bobo is doing fine but some parts of the front are now really weakening. He will have an headache...

ORIGINAL: chaos45

At this point shortening the line doesnt help the Germans as much as you would think. As then the Soviets concentrate more as well...and with no combat delay on hexes a massive soviet concentration is extremely hard to stop.

The game is slowly tipping to the point the Germans will just have to start retreat or face multiple army sized encirclement losses if they arent careful

It depends on the level of fortification. If the german can prepare a line of level 3 forts with 2 or 3 infs stacked. It can be hard to crack. Unfortunatly for Bobo, I'm now facing in several parts of the front level 0 or 1 forts...

Time is on my side!

[STEF78]

Turn 127, 18th november 1943

Winter campaign is well on with grinding in several parts of the front. I would bet that unless a large withdrawal is ordered, the german line will collapse before mud 1944.

Leningrad
Axis line is strong in this area. My first goal is to reach gulf of Finland in order to separate the germans and the finns.



Center
the line is now weaker. In some places, I'm facing level forts 0 or 1. That's fine! I also like to see 3 inf divs gathering only 33k men



South
The northern flank of the bulge is strongly defended. The germans are progressively giving up Don bend

[EwaldvonKleist]

The funny thing is that you are a quarter of a year behind the curve in the south, but in the North/Center, the shortest route to Berlin, you are historical.
Will be an interesting and tense endgame+AAR (like before).

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: EwaldvonKleist

The funny thing is that you are a quarter of a year behind the curve in the south, but in the North/Center, the shortest route to Berlin, you are historical.
Will be an interesting and tense endgame+AAR (like before).

I thought I was more behind the curve, but it's true. North of Bryansk we are roughly historical. In the South, the frontline should be on the Dniepr. The main difference was Bobo's 1942 campaign. More success, no loss of 6th army.

Below historical frontline.

[vvs007]

The front line is really far away from the historical, but the balance of power is better than historical in your favor:

1.01.44 (USSR vs GERMANY(incl sat))
men 6.4 - 4.9 mio
guns 95.6 - 54 k
AFV 5.3 - 5.4 k !!!
planes 10.2 - 3.1 k

We are waiting for ten Stalin's blows [:)]

[EwaldvonKleist]

Yes, all in all, it is far behind, but I think here the shortest route to Berlin (Smolensk-Minsk-Warsaw) matters. And there, Stef is fine (a little bit better at Leningrad, a little bit worser at Smolensk). The big buldge in the south will have to be ceded to the Soviet once the frontline becomes too long.
Where do you have your numbers fromGDHF?

[vvs007]

to EwaldvonKleist, paper books - "History WW2" (12;1973) russian

[EwaldvonKleist]

Thank you very much GDHF, this is one of the moments when one wants to speak russian.
Well, at my university, one can take russia as a language course. So maybe...
At least there is a similiar work with multiple volumes in my mother language German, called "Das deutsche Reich und der Zweite Weltkrieg", one or two of them were even translated into english.