American Front (US PO) test

[Veers]

ORIGINAL: Silvanski

ORIGINAL: Veers

Those wide open Prairies, eh? [:D]

With enemy units you only spot at the last moment

Pretty much the opposite of what you'd expect. [:D] Too bad we dont have location variable theatre recon.

[Silvanski]

Location dependant recon... hmmm that would be nice!

4 May 1915 and the Japs captured Frisco... the link-up with CS units was perfectly timed. The US is railing units south from Washington state.

[Silvanski]

The arrival of ANZAC units in Vancouver and a partial withdrawal of US troops to the San Francisco area made things easier for the Entente... and the Russians are showing some spirit at last!

[Veers]

ANZAC, Canadian, American, British, and Russian troops, all fighting in NA. Seems it would give the CP a much better chance of winning in Europe. What is the chance of a CP victory in Europe in the scenario?

[Silvanski]

Not sure abt the odds of a CP victory in Europe. The Japanese were entered via a TO, well worth the 20 pts drop in my VP... btw VP is now 58 and a draw... still.
Anzacs I believe come available if the US loses Pearl Harbor , that's a variable early in the scenario.

[Silvanski]

Movie of turns 37-41
I gain in the west but lose in the east.

[Silvanski]

Here's a sitrep which shows some of the things which have happened so far...

[Silvanski]

18 May 1915
CS raiders briefly occupied Kansas City, enough to destroy the industry and make the US supply/replacements suffer.
I'm getting pushed back in Virginia.

[Silvanski]

25 May 1915
Virginia

[Silvanski]

Turns 41-44
You'll note small gains in Canada, but the Toronto kessel was lost.

[THW]

ORIGINAL: Veers

ANZAC, Canadian, American, British, and Russian troops, all fighting in NA. Seems it would give the CP a much better chance of winning in Europe. What is the chance of a CP victory in Europe in the scenario?

The potential outcomes are;

17.5% chance of a Central Power victory in Europe in 1917
17.5% chance of a Central Power victory in Europe in 1918
30% chance of an Entente victory in 1918
35% chance of a draw in 1918

So the Germans have a slightly greater chance of winning in Europe than the Entente. The Entente victory is based on a successful operation in the Dardanelles (possible, just botched in this timeline), leading to the knocking out of Turkey, Bulgarian neutrality and increased pressure on Austria-Hungary. When the latter collapses, the Germans are unable to continue alone. Whether this is all realistic or not is a bit moot; this is alternate history after all.....

Regardless of what happens in Europe, the ANZACs arrive in Canada; it's closer and more relevant to Australia and NZ than France is.

Cheers

Felix

[Jeff Norton]

Felix,

Since you've covered the Great War pretty well, any plans to do the 2nd Round of War?

Not too sure about the design stuff, but, you do have the US map down pretty well, doing the American front should be easier this time around.

Not that I'm pushing...<hint, hint>[:D]

-Jeff

[Veers]

ORIGINAL: Felix1

ORIGINAL: Veers

ANZAC, Canadian, American, British, and Russian troops, all fighting in NA. Seems it would give the CP a much better chance of winning in Europe. What is the chance of a CP victory in Europe in the scenario?

The potential outcomes are;

17.5% chance of a Central Power victory in Europe in 1917
17.5% chance of a Central Power victory in Europe in 1918
30% chance of an Entente victory in 1918
35% chance of a draw in 1918

So the Germans have a slightly greater chance of winning in Europe than the Entente. The Entente victory is based on a successful operation in the Dardanelles (possible, just botched in this timeline), leading to the knocking out of Turkey, Bulgarian neutrality and increased pressure on Austria-Hungary. When the latter collapses, the Germans are unable to continue alone. Whether this is all realistic or not is a bit moot; this is alternate history after all.....

Regardless of what happens in Europe, the ANZACs arrive in Canada; it's closer and more relevant to Australia and NZ than France is.

Cheers

Felix

Right'o. Thanks.

[Veers]

ORIGINAL: Jeff Norton

Felix,

Since you've covered the Great War pretty well, any plans to do the 2nd Round of War?

Not too sure about the design stuff, but, you do have the US map down pretty well, doing the American front should be easier this time around.

Not that I'm pushing...<hint, hint>[:D]

-Jeff

If you're talking about WW2:

ORIGINAL: Felix1
G'day mate,

I'm glad you're enjoying the scenario, your hard work and mine. Funny thing is I've never played a game of the finished version. When I finish playtesting AF40 and helping a friend playtest his, I'll give it a go.

Anyway, it's looking good, well done mate,

Tane
aka Felix
New Zealand

This is from earlier in the thread.

[SMK-at-work]

Dardanelles was eminently winable for teh entente - "all" they needed to do was put a bit of actual thought into it.
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For example the reason they didn't land troops on 18 March was that theyhad to repack teh shipping - stuff that would be needed immediately upon landing was packed in the bottom of the ships, artillery guns and caissons were packed in different ships - that sort of thing.
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On 18 March teh Turks nearly ran out of ammo - I did a year 2 paper on this a couple of decades ago and IIRC they had an average of 4 rounds per gun left after the day's actions.
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The Brits had sweeping gear on a dozen destroyers at the battle - but choose to use nth sea trawlers that could barely maintan 3-4 knots against the current.
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they did actually see the mines that sank the Bouvet, Ocean and (the 3rd one) on 18 March, but choose to do nothign about them.
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So there were ample opportunities for them to succeed on 18 March 1915.
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Had they broken through the Dardanelles turkey would ahve been out of the war - enf of story - a few shells into Istanbul and it would be all over.
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then Russia can export its grain and pay for its war, Bulgaria no longer thinks incvading Serbia is such a good idea and is more likely to join with Romania on the TE side.
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Churchill's idea was completely brilliant and criticism of him for suggesting it is utterly without merit IMO.&nbsp;
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If you're into alternate timelines and vaguely competant leadership then WW1 ends in 1916 when Austria-Hungary sues for peace and Germany has to accept it too.&nbsp; thre's no Somme, no Verdun, no Russian Revolution, no US intervention, and WW1 becomes "yet another" European stoush in eth grand straditions since 1600's.

[Silvanski]

ORIGINAL: Felix1
...The potential outcomes are;

17.5% chance of a Central Power victory in Europe in 1917
17.5% chance of a Central Power victory in Europe in 1918
30% chance of an Entente victory in 1918
35% chance of a draw in 1918

So the Germans have a slightly greater chance of winning in Europe than the Entente. ...

Cheers

Felix

Thanks for these figures Tane.

I continue the test, ironing out odds and ends as I go. I believe the PO mod is quite playable.

[Silvanski]

3 August 1915 T53

One year into this bloody conflict.
British reinforcements enabled offensive action on the Canadian front. US forces are being pushed back.

[Silvanski]

Entente losses dd 3 Aug 1915... staggering!

[Silvanski]

T 47 to 52

[Veers]

ORIGINAL: Silvanski

3 August 1915 T53

One year into this bloody conflict.
British reinforcements enabled offensive action on the Canadian front. US forces are being pushed back.

ONWARD TO VICTORY!