Are Paper Wargames killing Computer Wargames?

[Charles2222]

ravinhood: Oh, BTW rh. Before you think my demagogueric comment was out of place, I wondered about that myself for a bit, then I went to Websters Online and found this second definition. Let's see if it fits, shall we?
 
a leader championing the cause of the common people in ancient times[&o]
 
Oh man, I'm am laughing myself silly!

[ravinhood]

Man whatever it is you're smoking these days Charles I want a puff.

[Charles2222]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

Man whatever it is you're smoking these days Charles I want a puff.

Having already championed the cause for the ancient peoples, I'm quite sure you have taken a puff or two already. Now to give it the ol' ravinhood signature quote - (lol).

[Gem35]

by all means, don't be a bogart, my friend...

[Charles2222]

What on earth would a bogart be? I didn't know Bogie knew about rh's ancient fixations.

[Gem35]

ahem.....
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... fid=988065

[Charles2222]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

ahem.....
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... fid=988065

I don't get it gemsie, but it's hilarious nonetheless. He talks about smoking, and then you resort to a dictionary yourself, and what does it mention? Smoking a joint as an example of bogarting. Man, I thought I was funny!

In case you didn't get my comments earlier, they were somewhat subtle, thusly making them the more funny (rh ought to have known what I was talking about if he didn't). I only explain this because this seems to be what you mean by bogarting, that you don't understand what I find as funny (and in now revealing it thus I lose the bogartness of the situation if I understand your meaning). He's always on this kick of pushing ancient games (literally, wargames from the ancient world) while condemning anymore WWII games, so while my comment of him being a demagogue for what he said in that one particular post seemed to me to not fit terribly well, ended up with a whole other meaning when I looked it up, which I listed above, about an ancient leader for the common people, therefore rendering what was a straight comment about demagoguery into the humourous sphere. Oh well, if nobody gets it that's fine. It wouldn't be the first time, but I at least find your dictionary example pf bogarting quite humorous indeed, considering his comments of wanting to smoke something which we already know he's had more than his fair share of[:D]

[Gem35]

Ravinhood mentioned that whatever it is that you are smoking to give him a puff... I guess my mind went all the way to the gutter and i appoligize for derailing your thoughts. [:)]

[Charles2222]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Ravinhood mentioned that whatever it is that you are smoking to give him a puff... I guess my mind went all the way to the gutter and i appoligize for derailing your thoughts. [:)]

No, strangely enough you enhanced them. But I think rh is better off with me bogarting him, that is, if we're talking about smoking funny cigarettes, but then again I'm not a very gifted bogarter, when you consider I've never even taken a secret puff of any leafy substances[:D].

[Gem35]

well good for you then, it's a bad habit.
Go Mavs!!

[Charles2222]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

well good for you then, it's a bad habit.
Go Mavs!!

Definitely, go Mavs!!!

[06 Maestro]

ORIGINAL: geozero

- Russian Campaign is still one of my favorite AH games...haven't playe it in years. 

That was a great game, but I have not played that in about 20 years. I have not even seen it for about 10 years, but I know I still have it. It's in the attic right next to "Stalingrad", "Barbarossa" and a few other old A/H titles. SPI's "Kursk" in up there too.

After the kids are grown and gone I may set up a gaming room for the old board games. At this time I don't really see the point of giving up the added realism of PC games, particularly the "pause-able continuous time" versions for an artifact. Of course, it is possible that as I age my mind will slow to where I can only handle playing IGOUGO on a board against myself. I can see it all now; a huge magnifying glass and big fluffy dice that I won't lose or hurt myself with...

[ravinhood]

ORIGINAL: Charles_22

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Ravinhood mentioned that whatever it is that you are smoking to give him a puff... I guess my mind went all the way to the gutter and i appoligize for derailing your thoughts. [:)]

No, strangely enough you enhanced them. But I think rh is better off with me bogarting him, that is, if we're talking about smoking funny cigarettes, but then again I'm not a very gifted bogarter, when you consider I've never even taken a secret puff of any leafy substances[:D].

The first sign is denial. Now I know who this guy reminds me of. CHARLES EMMERSON WINCHESTER THE IIIrd.

[Kuokkanen]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

I'm glad someone finally pointed this out about computer games vs paper games. Espeically the fact you only need one copy and the game will never be obsolete.

I assure you ravinhood, BattleTech 2nd Edition is very much obsolete by now. So is BattleSpace. Time to upgrade to Classic BattleTech [:D]

[Charles2222]

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

I'm glad someone finally pointed this out about computer games vs paper games. Espeically the fact you only need one copy and the game will never be obsolete.

I assure you ravinhood, BattleTech 2nd Edition is very much obsolete by now. So is BattleSpace. Time to upgrade to Classic BattleTech [:D]

No, he would stain his ancient traditions if he did that. What he won't tell you, is how he has already defiled the original wargame, plastic soldiers in the backyard, by going to these impure board and computer renditions.

Oh how they wish ravinhood would come back to lead them to glory! If only they knew! Yes, it would be bad enough that he went onto those advanced models of wargaming, but to make matters even worse, they're not even the right era for him. Maybe we should give them a sword or something and RH might reconsider?

[ravinhood]

Ummmm what does all that mess have to do with the TOPIC Charles Emmerson Winchester the IIIrd?

[Charles2222]

ORIGINAL: ravinhood

Ummmm what does all that mess have to do with the TOPIC Charles Emmerson Winchester the IIIrd?

It's the pre-paper era, the more ancient way of playing, in case you really don't get it. So what made you abandon the style of play that also would never be obsolete (just like bored gaming, er, board gaming, allegedly is [according to you that is])? One should question the worth of something which is so mundane that there's no possibility of change or that change would make it any better. You still don't get it? Aw well...

You, asking somebody about being on topic? Now that's funny.

[ravinhood]

I don't see a biography of myself as being on topic that's all. But, if you wish to be a terminus well there's always a dot for you too.

[geozero]

Getting back on track... anotehr advantage paper games have over PBEM games is that in the latter you have possible gamey tactics and cheats with players replaying turns, etc.  In addition, PBEM sometimes takes days, weeks, and months, and if there's an update in the program it could cause all kinds of havoc, including possibly having to abandon a gane and start all over. 
 
None of that is present in a paper game, where the players come face to face (that's right, no more hiding behind firewalls and name calling), and play the game out right then and there.  Even if you spend an entire day and don't finish, you can write down notes as to where all units were located and take it from that spot on another day... but if you've never played face to face a paper game you just are missing the real thrill of the moments in time when you defeat the enemy and stare him down.  Nothing comes close to that in the sterile enviroment of a PC game played over an internet connection. 
 
You just can't BEAT a face to face game.  [:)]

[ravinhood]

(that's right, no more hiding behind firewalls and name calling),

 
Yeah that's something big that happened with computers ain't it? See a lot of that childishness on every forum yah go to. Something that definitely wouldn't happen with a paper game face to face. Oh there's some arguing, but, I never heard any name calling or bullyboying. You'd get stomped where I come from if yah did that face to face.