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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Here's my supply question. What is the difference between my supplies in brown to the far West and the blue and dark blue?



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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Berchtesgaden got annexed by Austria? Maybe I don't recognize the German-Austrian border there ;)
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Here's my supply question. What is the difference between my supplies in brown to the far West and the blue and dark blue?
I'd like to hear the answer to that one my own self. Maybe it has something to do with the change in supply level in that ( those ) hexes?
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

Berchtesgaden got annexed by Austria? Maybe I don't recognize the German-Austrian border there ;)

Graz is the second largest city in Austria. The yellow arrow in the other screenshot is showing how all the forces moved from the Austrian mountain road south of Innsbruck.

Not sure I understand the comment. Both are cities in Austria.

As I move all these Austrian reserves into Germany, however, here's the view I hope to have from the former Eagle's Nest.





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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Here's my supply question. What is the difference between my supplies in brown to the far West and the blue and dark blue?



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Only the blue side can trace to locations in blue. Only the red side can trace to locations in red. Both sides can trace to locations in gold.
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Berchtesgaden got annexed by Austria? Maybe I don't recognize the German-Austrian border there ;)

Look more carefully - it's in West Germany.
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Berchtesgaden got annexed by Austria? Maybe I don't recognize the German-Austrian border there ;)

Look more carefully - it's in West Germany.

But my references to Austria in both screenshots show Graz and Innsbruck in the shots. That is Austria.
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Here's my supply question. What is the difference between my supplies in brown to the far West and the blue and dark blue?

I'm still not sure I understand how this would be possible. The gold squares are the far western border of my map (I'm blue). There are no red forces in sight or anywhere near so how could they share this supply point?

That's why I didn't understand the different color coding there.



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Only the blue side can trace to locations in blue. Only the red side can trace to locations in red. Both sides can trace to locations in gold.

So, even though my far western border is nowhere near the enemy red forces, this is showing that they have the right to supply if they ever reach that spot?
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 6 NATO move

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It's only turn 6 and you can see my friendly losses are approaching 2:1. Please note the withdrawn force screenshot question at the bottom of this jpg below.

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I'm just lucky I guess. Sometimes I have to make my own luck however.

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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 6 NATO move

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Somehow I missed that in the news briefing. As bad as it's going, the entire NATO forces may surrender soon. But I'm learning a lot -- mostly how to get my clock cleaned by a great trainer.

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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 6 NATO move

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Strange. The Austrian surrender happened on Turn 3 when you declared war. Wonder why the troops didn't get withdrawn until Turn 6?



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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 6 NATO move

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It's only turn 6 and you can see my friendly losses are approaching 2:1.

No. Your loss penalty is approaching 2:1. The loss penalty is increased by losses but decreased by replacements. The WP got a big slug of replacement tanks at the start of hostilities - skewing his loss penalty.
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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Berchtesgaden got annexed by Austria? Maybe I don't recognize the German-Austrian border there ;)

Look more carefully - it's in West Germany.

But my references to Austria in both screenshots show Graz and Innsbruck in the shots. That is Austria.

Graz & Innsbruck are in Austria. Berchtesgaden is in West Germany. Note the boundary line.
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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So, even though my far western border is nowhere near the enemy red forces, this is showing that they have the right to supply if they ever reach that spot?

You must have a breach in your frontlines somewhere, allowing the supply path into your rear. The path must be stopped by your units or their ZOCs in order to be blocked. Otherwise, it can snake to anywhere.
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 6 NATO move

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It's only turn 6 and you can see my friendly losses are approaching 2:1.

No. Your loss penalty is approaching 2:1. The loss penalty is increased by losses but decreased by replacements. The WP got a big slug of replacement tanks at the start of hostilities - skewing his loss penalty.

Thanks for your post. Helpful in understanding. So it's a very good number to consider representing overall power on the board.
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 5 NATO move

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So, even though my far western border is nowhere near the enemy red forces, this is showing that they have the right to supply if they ever reach that spot?

You must have a breach in your frontlines somewhere, allowing the supply path into your rear. The path must be stopped by your units or their ZOCs in order to be blocked. Otherwise, it can snake to anywhere.

Evidently one enemy paratrooper in the middle of nowhere could do this? Especially if he's on a key road?
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RE: The Next War 1979 turn 7

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So um.......here's the front lines as of the end of WP turn 7. I dropped more paratroops by helicopter near Amsterdam.....let's see if the Dutch surrender or not. I've got some reinforcements going to the weak areas of my lines so in a turn or two I can stop worrying about breakthroughs, maybe. Roger is pushing his reinforcements toward the front lines as fast as he can no doubt. I broke what bridges I could as I could to slow that process down a bit. Lost some people doing so but they saved a lot of lives doing that, I hope. If the Dutch surrender I might just be able to get a crossing over the Rhine. Maybe. We'll see.

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