Operation Typhoon

[B455]

This blizzard thing that people keep talking about...does it effect Germans only or also Russians? In my mind blizzard would mean that neither force was really having definitive edge over natures power. I understand that generally speaking Soviet Army should suffer less from winter, but I feel the known results of the first winter should not be a reason to overemphasize "blizzard". Afterall the Germans just went too far. They won a number of winter battles against Soviets in winter conditions...Operation Mars and Liuban catastrophe (destruction of 2nd shock Army) come to mind. Just a few thoughts.

[Northern Star]

The movement possibilities are reduced for both sides, but the Germans are much weaker than the Russians. I know that Germans won historically some battles in winter, but if you want to have more chances to survive, you should kill as many Soviet divisions as you can.

[Flaviusx]

Note that the blizzard combat penalties on the German are for the first winter only. After that, only the movement penalties apply to either side.

So something like the Operation Mars blunder is completely possible, and the Soviet can't expect to be bailed out by the weather in subsequent winters.

[Speedysteve]

Here's the losses screen before the Russian's counter attack......

[Speedysteve]

Well....it was a Soviet Minor Victory in the end. Managed to succesfully hold all ground in front of Moscow (which would be good for a 1942 offensive) but there were substantial breakthroughs NW of Rzhev and further south near Voronezh......

Blizzard conditions are incredibly crippling and sapping on German strength and ability to fight (as they should be). Learnt a lot in this which will be helpful for my upcoming Campaign.....

[Speedysteve]

Losses....Both sides lost about 200,000 men to combat in the Blizzard.

[Flaviusx]

Strange. Did you have Tula? I was assuming you did, and that should put you in striking range of a German minor.

[Speedysteve]

I had Tula....here's the score:

[Flaviusx]

Ah I see what happened here.

You lost the game up north. Toropets and Ostashkov in particular.

[Speedysteve]

Aye. I held Ostashkov right up until the last turn. Onto 41 Campaign next.........