Parry and Spar, or is it... Reluctant Admiral 4.2 Fulkerson(J) vs Moore (A)

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[:D]  Maybe we should still go back to Moo(re) to distinguish him from Moo(se).  But Larry, I don't think you should go bowing out unless Mr. Moore asks you to.  Most of us wargamers were taught by competitive characters who wanted to build formidable opponents.  This occurred before the internet when it was difficult to find any opponents at all.  Mr. Moore, from what you've said I'm only perhaps slightly more experienced than you are, indeed to some extent I may be substantially less so.  So don't treat anything I may say as Scripture (I'm sure you didn't and won't).  It sounds as though this is kind of a dry run for you so just enjoy and use it to gird yourself against future opponents.  Both of you please feel free to make comments in my AAR vs. vontiger (Gorn to be wild), I'm quite sure he will have no objection and it will make it more fun. 
     I can see that you know that Bullwinkle is a good guy and he means well.  He is correct that I am sometimes problemsome, and I'm almost to the point of banning myself.  I really need to be more careful and Moose and some others are rightfully angry with me, methinks.  In any case if and when I post I really know little of the Japanese situation and considerations, I know more about the Allies but my opinions are always debateable at best. 
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ORIGINAL: geofflambert
...Larry, I don't think you should go bowing out unless Mr. Moore asks you to. 
Mr. Moore asked me, specifically me, not to bow out. So I guess I'm back in. Although I did want Mr. Moore to obtain first class advice and I was figuring my presence here would stifle that somewhat. On the other hand IT'S JUST A FRIENDLY GAME you guys. We don't have any other agenda, Mr. Moore and I. So um.....keep the advice coming when you get a chance and I'll post the Jap stuff and we'll all learn together. Okie dokie?
ORIGINAL: geofflambert
Most of us wargamers were taught by competitive characters who wanted to build formidable opponents.
Back when I was playing TOAW I had several opponents who thought of me as an expert and I had no problemo at all taking them under my wing and giving out tips and tricks etc. And they said that they appreciated it. I believe they actually did appreciate it. And I have probably, maybe, a week's worth of experience that Mr. Moore doesn't have yet and wanted to share. I've got three PBEM's going counting Mr. Moore, and I'm learning by leaps and bounds. Plus there's the Allied AI game I'm doing while I wait for moves....and there's mucho good advice coming my way from *that* AAR for which I'm grateful. This game is fabulous and loaded with detail and will take much doing of moves to discover all it's rich secrets, I'm pretty sure. And thanks to all you experts the learning curve is becoming all that much easier.
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...In any case if and when I post I really know little of the Japanese situation and considerations, I know more about the Allies but my opinions are always debateable at best. 
I could always post the Jap side of the conflict here if you guys think it might help. Mr. Moore has asked me to do that and I told him I would. Especially the economic stuff......because Mr. Moore has a PBEM game w/ TommyG in which he's the Jap and needs all the help he can get in that game. I want to help him if I can.
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[:D][:D][:D] Mister?, Mister??[:D][:D][:D]

I'm too young to feel this old!!! and I havent even insulted you yet! LOL!!!

Gorn, I'm HAPPY if you called me Moo... as I've been called so much worse. I even joked about the moniker when Larry joined in...
See we even are posting and still talking about the game too! THAT's what this AAR is about in my mind. AND where Bullwinkle is right in his assessment of what's going to happen...But there's have been more hits on this AAR than I even hoped, so SOMEBODY is lurking [;)]

Larry - welcome back and thank you for honoring my request.


Help? YES I need all the help I can get, Oh you DON'T mean meds? darn! Reading Sprior's & Cap Mandrakes' AAR There seem to be a lotta Dr's playing this game (wonder if its thier alter ego coming out!) maybe I can doc-shop here? ( JUST KIDDING!!!) [:D][:D][:D]

See, just an example of my strange humor! NOW back to the game!


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Here's the combat report for 12Dec41:
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Jim sent me his moves just now and I loaded the turn, watched the combat replay, and started up Tracker w/ the new turn to see how I'm doing. Some good news and some bad news.
Some adjustments are in order. My comments are on the right side for the numbered labels on the chart.

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At game start I had enough oil to last about 18 months and resources for about 66 days. Now that the war is going on the oil reserves is down to less than a year and resources is about 50 days. D'oh.

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RA really puts the pressure on to get those resources FAST. Am happy this part of the Mod has truly worked.
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Here's why my HI was showing (150).......it's because I just now turned on the repair of the 150 HI points at Miri. So pretty soon I'll have those repaired and I'll be swimming in HI points.

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ORIGINAL: John 3rd
RA really puts the pressure on to get those resources FAST. Am happy this part of the Mod has truly worked.
Yeah, me too. Um......I want to thank you for this RA 4.2 mod. It's really cool so far. I like it. I'm finding a lot of changes from the stock version of the scenario and I'm thinking it's better than the stock version.
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A minor surface scurmish where a lot of Allied ships got hit. Still more are escaping to the south.

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I got some licks in at Wake and my bombarding force is already on their way to Truk to rearm. Jim will probably get some replacements before I assemble the Wake invasion force properly.

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I took some significant hits at San Fernando. I hope to have that port soon. Sooner the better.

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I almost forgot to post the losses for 12Dec41:

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Here's yet again, another expensive raid. I'm going to have to fly in some more escorts or quit bombing for a while.

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All that Japanese stuff makes my head spin, that's why I've never tried playing them.  Better find some escorts quick over Clark.  Those P-40 sqds are not very well trained when the war starts so you shouldn't need gobs of them.

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Stop bombing Clark and start sweeping instead! A few days of sweeping and you will have wiped out all opposition. Then bomb! [:)]
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From the desk of the Supreme Commander. . . [:D]

As I said before, the choice of leaving the shipping in port to be picked off when they get around to Manila & Hong Kong, or fleeing is a no brainer. Shipping is pretty much toast either way. (Opinions?) Getting shipping & more out of Singers, Oost, Batavia & Sojerbaja is more sensible.

Larry did a nice job picking off the runners, even the ones headed NW to Colombo, but he missed the eastbound n down AK's (so far!) The upside for me is he committed around 10-15 warships to the Celebes & South China Sea areas. If they are there, they're not in the SW Pacific! or Alaska!, or Pearl Harbor, or San Fransisco! Seriously he is in control of this area and I can't beat him in naval or air power here, so a hopefully controlled withdrawl and retrenchment like real life is in order.

If anyone has other opinions or tricks up their sleeves feel free to post!





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There have to be another 20 sightings in addition to these around Pearl Harbor, I'm assuming he's bringing mines as well as torps. I have deployed ASW TF's all around Pearl and vicinity and have a few DMS TF's also.

If Larry is hoping to stranglehold Pearl I'll just waypoint the TF's from the West first... he can't have enough SS to succeed here unless he stripped everywhere out of SS. We'll see...

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You notice Larry managed to pull off 5 separate invasions in one turn...cannot do anything about any of them... I've already moved to reinforce Port Moresby so it will be up to the West Coast to get men/materials into SW Pacific to stem the tide over the next couple months.

I kinda hate Australia as the Allies - it's great as a huge floating carrier later in the war - just hard to defend early in the war!

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I have two thoughts about your Australia complaint. First it's absolutely staggering to me how many troops and how much equipment the Australians provide, both in the India theater and in the Southwest Pacific.  Second they have a lot of stuff available (if you use the PPs to release them) to garrison and defend lots of places long before the Americans start arriving, use them carefully but aggressively.  Third (I know I just said two thoughts) if the Japanese invade in the north, what are they going to do?  March through the desert to get somewhere that actually matters?  If they invade in the west, so what?  By the time they do it Perth is no longer of any great importance (at least the way I play it).  If they invade in the northeast, well by the time they do it you should already have unloaded one US army division somewhere in Australia (Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide, say) and they can railroad to the site of the incursion and stop it.  Of course you will have more to deploy than that by then, not just Australian but American.  Have no fear, just bust the other guy's chops.  All will work out in the end.

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