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Test #3

USN Air Groups

F4F-4s - Escort
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat CAP Alt Ldr Insp
VF-3 36 67 78 30 70 10000 62 75
VF-42 36 66 93 18 70 10000 70 80
VF-6 36 74 99 19 70 10000 59 71

SBDs - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
VS-2 18 80 99 0 0 10000 68 76
VB-2 18 83 99 0 0 10000 58 80
VS-5 18 78 99 0 0 10000 56 72
VB-5 18 76 99 7 20 10000 60 77
VS-6 18 72 99 7 20 10000 58 74
VB-6 18 68 99 7 20 10000 61 74

TBDs - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
VT-2 15 71 99 0 0 5000 69 77
VT-5 15 70 99 0 0 5000 56 74
VT-6 15 76 99 0 0 5000 56 79


IJN Air Groups

A6M2 - Escort
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat CAP Alt Ldr Insp
AII-1 27 82 83 33 70 10000 60 72
BI-1 19 67 87 30 70 10000 55 75
EI-1 24 76 96 30 70 10000 57 83
EII-1 24 74 91 29 70 10000 58 71
EIII-1 18 65 55 28 70 10000 60 61
CII-1 18 68 87 28 70 10000 64 63

Vals - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
AII-2 25 80 73 28 0 10000 62 73
BI-2 21 89 76 30 0 10000 73 71
EI-2 21 74 86 31 0 10000 61 70
EII-2 22 71 89 25 20 10000 63 79

Kates - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
AII-3 20 87 99 0 0 5000 61 77
BI-3 15 88 99 0 0 5000 63 77
EI-3 18 72 99 0 0 5000 54 76
EII-3 18 76 99 0 0 5000 63 65
EIII-3 12 59 99 0 0 5000 61 72
CII-3 12 71 99 0 0 5000 59 66


Results for test #3
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/05/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 72
A6M3 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 36
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 4 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 25 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 44 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 3 damaged
TBD Devastator x 8 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 5 damaged

CPO W.Abe of CII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 4

LT M. Suganami of BI-1 Daitai is KILLED

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CV Soryu
CV Kaga


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 66
A6M3 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 28
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 8 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 9 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 19 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 13 damaged
TBD Devastator x 3 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 11 damaged

PO1 I.Matsubara of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 4

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga
CV Shokaku
CV Soryu
CV Zuikaku
CVL Zuiho


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
A6M3 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
SBD Dauntless x 33
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 8 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 14 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 25 damaged
TBD Devastator x 9 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 4 damaged

PO1 I.Matsubara of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 6

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVL Zuiho
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 2
CV Soryu
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 1


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3 Zero x 6
D3A Val x 66
B5N Kate x 51

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 25
F4F-4 Wildcat x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 13 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 2 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 4 destroyed
D3A Val x 26 destroyed
D3A Val x 14 damaged
B5N Kate x 33 destroyed
B5N Kate x 28 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14 damaged

LTJG H. Packard of VF-6 is credited with kill number 4

LCDR C. Fenton of VF-42 is KILLED

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise
CV Lexington, Torpedo hits 1
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CL Honolulu
CA Chester, Bomb hits 2, on fire


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
D3A Val x 20

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
D3A Val x 11 destroyed
D3A Val x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged

ENS W. Eder of VF-3 is credited with kill number 4


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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 3
B5N Kate x 12

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 1 destroyed
D3A Val x 2 damaged
B5N Kate x 5 destroyed
B5N Kate x 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra x 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CA New Orleans
CL Phoenix
CA Vincennes


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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 18

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 6 destroyed
B5N Kate x 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra x 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Phoenix
DD Smith
CA Portland


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
A6M3 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 11 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 8 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 14 damaged

ENS J. Robbins of VF-3 is credited with kill number 3

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
CV Shokaku


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Air attack on TF at 53,51

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 28
B5N Kate x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 10 destroyed
D3A Val x 7 damaged
B5N Kate x 11 destroyed
B5N Kate x 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 damaged

LTJG B. Reid of VF-6 is credited with kill number 5

Allied Ships
CV Lexington
CV Yorktown, on fire
CA Chester, on fire
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 1


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Summary

IJN ship damage
CV Kaga 15 0 2
CV Shokaku 21 14 10
CVL Shoho 25 11 17

IJN aircraft losses
A6M2 - 43
A6M3 - 7
Val - 52
Kate - 61


USN ship damage
CV Enterprise 7 4 3
CV Lexington 26 11 18
CV Yorktown 22 11 18
CA Chester 19 4 12

USN aircraft losses
F4F-3 - 13
F4F-4 - 35
SBD - 79
TBD - 28
P-39 - 0


Results for test #3a
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/05/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
A6M3 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
SBD Dauntless x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 6 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 12 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 19 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 2 damaged

PO2 R.Ohara of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3

LCDR R. Dixon of VS-2 bails out and is RESCUED


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 67
A6M3 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
SBD Dauntless x 44
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 6 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 14 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 33 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 22 damaged
TBD Devastator x 5 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 7 damaged

PO1 B.Kanno of CII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 4

LT T. Hoashi of EI-1 Daitai bails out and is CAPTURED

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CV Shokaku
CV Soryu
CVL Shoho
CVL Zuiho


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
A6M3 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
SBD Dauntless x 18
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 8 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 9 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 12 damaged
TBD Devastator x 12 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 5 damaged

WO U.Muranaka of CII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 6

LCDR J. Brett of VT-2 bails out and is RESCUED

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CVL Shoho
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 1
CV Kaga


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 57
A6M3 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 15
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 8 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 6 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 9 damaged
TBD Devastator x 5 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 7 damaged

LTJG J. Halford of VF-6 is credited with kill number 5

WO U.Muranaka of CII-1 Daitai is KILLED

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
CVL Shoho, Bomb hits 1
CS Chitose
CV Kaga, Torpedo hits 1
CV Zuikaku, Torpedo hits 1


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M3 Zero x 8
D3A Val x 83
B5N Kate x 49

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 25
F4F-4 Wildcat x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 12 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 7 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged
D3A Val x 21 destroyed
D3A Val x 17 damaged
B5N Kate x 31 destroyed
B5N Kate x 22 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12 damaged

LTJG E. Bassett of VF-42 is credited with kill number 4

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1


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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 3
B5N Kate x 30

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 2 damaged
B5N Kate x 16 destroyed
B5N Kate x 16 damaged


1LT K. Wyethes of 67th FS is credited with kill number 2

Allied Ships
CA Portland, Bomb hits 1
CL Phoenix
CA New Orleans
CA Vincennes
CA Minneapolis


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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 10

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 4 destroyed
B5N Kate x 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra x 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Phoenix, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 14
F4F-4 Wildcat x 34
SBD Dauntless x 20
TBD Devastator x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 4 damaged
TBD Devastator x 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged

LTJG C. Chambers of VF-6 is credited with kill number 4

LT M. Hidaka of CII-1 Daitai is KILLED

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVL Zuiho
DD Harukaze
CVL Shoho
CA Myoko
CV Shokaku
CV Soryu


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 38
B5N Kate x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 2 destroyed
D3A Val x 6 damaged
B5N Kate x 2 destroyed
B5N Kate x 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 8

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 2 destroyed
B5N Kate x 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra x 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Anderson
CL Leander


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
D3A Val x 8

no losses


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Summary

IJN ship damage
CV Soryu 3 3 5
CV Zuikaku 33 7 19
CVL Shoho 8 2 4

IJN aircraft losses
A6M2 - 62
A6M3 - 12
Val - 31
Kate - 53


USN ship damage
CV Enterprise 60 29 37
CV Lexington Sunk
CV Yorktown 39 58 38

USN aircraft losses
F4F-3 - 14
F4F-4 - 27
SBD - 61
TBD - 23
P-39 - 2


Results for test #3
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/05/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 76
A6M3 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 32
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 24 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 39 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 3 damaged
TBD Devastator x 11 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 3 damaged

ENS S. Komachi of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 5

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 2
CV Zuikaku


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 53
A6M3 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
SBD Dauntless x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 5 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 17 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 2 damaged

WO O.Kotani of BI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 6

ENS S. Komachi of EI-1 Daitai is KILLED

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CV Soryu


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 69
A6M3 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
SBD Dauntless x 31
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 6 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 19 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 25 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 10 damaged
TBD Devastator x 10 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 6 damaged

PO2 T.Kojima of EII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3

Japanese Ships
CA Haguro
CV Kaga
CV Zuikaku
CV Soryu


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
A6M3 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 15
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 4 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 6 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 10 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 8 damaged
TBD Devastator x 11 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 3 damaged

PO2 P.Nagahama of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 4

LT M. Hidaka of CII-1 Daitai bails out and is CAPTURED

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CVL Shoho
CVL Zuiho


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
A6M3 Zero x 8
D3A Val x 66
B5N Kate x 38

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 27
F4F-4 Wildcat x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 14 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 7 destroyed
D3A Val x 28 destroyed
D3A Val x 17 damaged
B5N Kate x 21 destroyed
B5N Kate x 13 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 14 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5 damaged

LTJG T. Rhodes of VF-6 is credited with kill number 5

LCDR C. Fenton of VF-42 bails out and is RESCUED

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CV Lexington
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 1
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 3, on fire


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
D3A Val x 21
B5N Kate x 15

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
D3A Val x 12 destroyed
D3A Val x 5 damaged
B5N Kate x 16 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 damaged

LCDR J. Gray of VF-6 is credited with kill number 6

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CV Enterprise


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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 42

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 13 destroyed
B5N Kate x 25 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra x 1 damaged

2LT E. Dews of 67th FS is credited with kill number 2

Allied Ships
DD Cummings
DD Perkins
CA New Orleans, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Portland, Torpedo hits 1
DD Dunlap, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Vincennes
CL Phoenix


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Air attack on TF at 50,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
A6M3 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
SBD Dauntless x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 6 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged
SBD Dauntless x 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 6 damaged
P-39D Airacobra x 3 destroyed

PO2 J.Shibata of AII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 4

LT T. Hoashi of EI-1 Daitai is KILLED

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CVL Shoho


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Air attack on TF at 54,52

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 27

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 10 destroyed
D3A Val x 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3 damaged

LT T. Coleman of VF-6 is credited with kill number 4

Allied Ships
CV Lexington
CV Yorktown, on fire


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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
D3A Val x 6

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
D3A Val x 4 damaged


Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Bomb hits 1
DD Alwin


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Summary

IJN ship damage
CV Shokaku 10 1 6

IJN aircraft losses
A6M2 - 54
A6M3 - 13
Val - 54
Kate - 64


USN ship damage
CV Yorktown 39 58 38

CA New Orleans 33 34 5
CA Portland 7 19 1
DD Dunlap 34 50 4

USN aircraft losses
F4F-3 - 20
F4F-4 - 32
SBD - 78
TBD - 34
P-39 - 3

[denisonh]

The situation was not exactly the situation we played out, but very close.

I ran each a couple more times, but failed to save the combat results file and/or list the air losses. Only one resulted in no damage to US carriers with 2 IJN CVs damaged (Kaga 33/Zuikaku 63), and one with no damage to the IJN carriers with2 USN Cvs damaged (Enterprise 26/ Yorktown 3).

Test 3 averaged much more Zero losses than the first two tests. I would attribute that in part to the fatigue difference, since nothing else significant changed.

IJN aircraft losses averaged higher because of USN ability to land and operate carrier aircraft from damaged carriers at Luganville. Often subsequent(afternoon impulse) strikes were carried out from Luganville with aircraft originaly based on carriers.

This tended to even out results, and if the USN performed well in the morning, then the advantage was magnified in the afternoon impulse. If the USN performed poorly, they still got strikes in the afternoon. On the other hand, if the IJN did poorly in the morning, the afternoon impulse turned into a disaster.

Another factor was the additional USN TFs in the area. They tended to draw off strikes that otherwise would be directed at the USN CVs. The less strikes drawn off, the worse the USN CVs seemed to fare. This makes sense, as the TF commander has more targets to consider and has to make decisions about which target(s) to hit, sometimes resulting in strikes going after less than prime targets. Not to mention that the timimg of the spotting reports would affect the decisions as well.

Without the proximity of Luganville and other TFs in the area, the IJN force would beat the USN handily almost all the time. These significantly equalized the sides and made the difference in the outcome of this engagement.

[denisonh]

Here is the save game I used to generate the above tests.

[afenelon]

Originally posted by denisonh
The situation was not exactly the situation we played out, but very close.

I ran each a couple more times, but failed to save the combat results file and/or list the air losses. Only one resulted in no damage to US carriers with 2 IJN CVs damaged (Kaga 33/Zuikaku 63), and one with no damage to the IJN carriers with2 USN Cvs damaged (Enterprise 26/ Yorktown 3).

Test 3 averaged much more Zero losses than the first two tests. I would attribute that in part to the fatigue difference, since nothing else significant changed.

IJN aircraft losses averaged higher because of USN ability to land and operate carrier aircraft from damaged carriers at Luganville. Often subsequent(afternoon impulse) strikes were carried out from Luganville with aircraft originaly based on carriers.

This tended to even out results, and if the USN performed well in the morning, then the advantage was magnified in the afternoon impulse. If the USN performed poorly, they still got strikes in the afternoon. On the other hand, if the IJN did poorly in the morning, the afternoon impulse turned into a disaster.

Another factor was the additional USN TFs in the area. They tended to draw off strikes that otherwise would be directed at the USN CVs. The less strikes drawn off, the worse the USN CVs seemed to fare. This makes sense, as the TF commander has more targets to consider and has to make decisions about which target(s) to hit, sometimes resulting in strikes going after less than prime targets. Not to mention that the timimg of the spotting reports would affect the decisions as well.

Without the proximity of Luganville and other TFs in the area, the IJN force would beat the USN handily almost all the time. These significantly equalized the sides and made the difference in the outcome of this engagement.

-But no test resulted in 6 Japanese CV´s with heavy damage vs
-2 USN CV´s with small damage. It looks like I just had bad luck
-or the AI settings influenced the results. I see no bias towards
-US in the game engine here, and maybe, it was only a worst
-case result.

[denisonh]

Only other things not considered in my tests

- US Avg exp for fighters 10 less than in our example
- 1 sqn still had F4F-3s
- This one only 1 day, did not consider follow up
- I did not know the make up of your TF, so guessed. Flak value of your actual TF may have varied significantly.
- Did not factor in any LBA bombers.
- This turn was the first under the new patch

I am not revealing the exact nature of my damage, for obvious reasons.

But I still believe that it was a worse case scenario. There were a couple examples in my test reults where the follow on damage would probably get much worse for the IJN, as the IJN airpower decreases with carrier damage, and the USN aircraft just move Luganville and keep up the fight. A couple of those would have ended up with some bad loses for the IJN.

[afenelon]

But I still believe that it was a worse case scenario. There were a couple examples in my test reults where the follow on damage would probably get much worse for the IJN, as the IJN airpower decreases with carrier damage, and the USN aircraft just move Luganville and keep up the fight. A couple of those would have ended up with some bad loses for the IJN. [/B][/QUOTE]


-On the other hand any Japanese CV able to make more than
-15 knots can be outside your LBA AF in the following day
-(remember that the Air strikes are only made after the naval
-moves, so a retiring TF will be able to make 300 miles in a
-day moving at 15knots). Of course, you can caught very
-dmaged ships (less than 10 knots) with your surface ships.
-In the majority of scenarios you simulated, your carriers
-would be unable to pursue IJN ones. I think the most
-probable outcomes would be:

1-Zuiho sinks
USN unable to pursue
Minor IJN victory
1a-IJN retreats
Draw
1b-Shokaku and Zuiho sinks
Minor USN victory
2-IJN retreats
Major IJN victory
3-IJN retreats
USN unable to pursue
Draw
3a-IJN retreats
USN unable to pursue
Minor IJN victory
3b-IJN retreats
Draw
-So in 7 simulations there would be 3 IJN victories
-3 Draws and 1 USN defeat
-Well, I´m satisfied with this, since you proved there
-is no bias in v2.11, which is the most important.
-I will do some tests in a statistical software, using
-the tutorial scenario, to verify if there is a trouble
-with AI settings (first test suggests there isn´t).

[DoomedMantis]

Originally posted by afenelon

Originally posted by denisonh


Japanese data on CV


Air Groups

A6M2 - Escort
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat CAP Alt Ldr Insp
AI-1 23 86 72 30 70 10000 65 75
AII-1 29 80 92 36 70 10000 60 72
BI-1 23 88 94 35 70 10000 55 75
BII-1 20 88 87 36 70 10000 60 72
DI-1 13 66 39 32 70 10000 74 58
CII-1 9 64 46 29 70 10000 70 71


Vals - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
AI-2 22 85 91 31 0 10000 66 74
AII-2 27 80 66 39 0 10000 61 73
BI-2 21 80 86 27 20 10000 93 88
BII-2 18 91 85 39 0 10000 63 75

TBDs - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
AI-3 18 73 81 0 0 5000 55 71
AII-3 20 87 98 0 0 5000 62 78
BI-3 15 92 98 0 0 5000 63 77
BII-3 16 87 78 0 0 5000 62 75
DI-3 14 74 92 28 0 5000 56 61
CII-3 10 70 76 21 0 5000 59 66

your fatigue for your fighters is very high. I have found that if fatigue is above 30 then CAP is greatly nullified (go and test it, I have and there is a marked difference between CAP flying with 0 fatigue and that with fatigue above 30. Your oponents fatigue was below 30 but still high, but 30 seems to be the key.

Also you carrier force reacted to his, how many Oportunity points did you lose while moving. As the IJN its to your advantage to not move as you have the longer range. Also your opponent was flying at 15000 ft and your CAP was set to 10000ft. This means all you CAP had to engage from below and a fair few would have got past your CAP before they could engage.

DM

[denisonh]

Doomed Mantis has a very valid point that I did not consider in running these tests, which is how far did the IJN TF move total due to Yamaguchi's reacting.

All my tests had the IJN TF moving 10 hexes (5/5) so they had more than adequate OPS points to launch strikes.

I am running tests again, with the first test the normal move, and the second a reaction (not sure how to structure this one)

Curious to see the outcome.

Oh, afenelon, can you tell me how far the TF moved as part of movement and reaction so I can use that as part of my test?

[denisonh]

Ran yet another test for 10 iterations.

Same scenario with the airgroup information as follows.
Test #4

USN Air Groups

F4F-4s - Escort
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat CAP Alt Ldr Insp
VF-3 36 67 78 30 70 15000 62 75
VF-42 36 66 93 18 70 15000 70 80
VF-6 36 74 99 19 70 15000 59 71

SBDs - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
VS-2 18 80 99 0 0 15000 68 76
VB-2 18 83 99 0 0 15000 58 80
VS-5 18 78 99 0 0 15000 56 72
VB-5 18 76 99 7 20 15000 60 77
VS-6 18 72 99 7 20 15000 58 74
VB-6 18 68 99 7 20 15000 61 74

TBDs - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
VT-2 15 71 99 0 0 10000 69 77
VT-5 15 70 99 0 0 10000 56 74
VT-6 15 76 99 0 0 10000 56 79


IJN Air Groups

A6M2 - Escort
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat CAP Alt Ldr Insp
AII-1 27 82 83 33 70 10000 60 72
BI-1 19 67 87 30 70 10000 55 75
EI-1 24 76 96 30 70 10000 57 83
EII-1 24 74 91 29 70 10000 58 71
EIII-1 18 65 55 28 70 10000 60 61
CII-1 18 68 87 28 70 10000 64 63

Vals - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
AII-2 25 80 73 28 0 10000 62 73
BI-2 21 89 76 30 0 10000 73 71
EI-2 21 74 86 31 0 10000 61 70
EII-2 22 71 89 25 20 10000 63 79

Kates - Naval Attack
SQN AC Ex Mo Fat Srch Alt Ldr Insp
AII-3 20 87 99 0 0 5000 61 77
BI-3 15 88 99 0 0 5000 63 77
EI-3 18 72 99 0 0 5000 54 76
EII-3 18 76 99 0 0 5000 63 65
EIII-3 12 59 99 0 0 5000 61 72
CII-3 12 71 99 0 0 5000 59 66

Reults attached.

As with previous tests, the results generally favored the IJN, although the results indicate that the IJN took heavier percentage of fighter losses than the USN than in the previous tests. On average 33% more, with several over 50% more than the USN.

As Doomed Mantis pointed out, I believe that is mainly a function of the fatigue difference (possibly the altitude as well).

Of the tests, the most interesting was the ninth run, where both sides sent maximum number of strikes(no weather problems), yet no carriers were damaged on either side. The only ships damaged were one cruiser per side.

I believe this reinforces the assertion that the IJN will win this engagement outright 40% of the time, draw 50% of the time, and lose 10% of the time. (although none of my tests resulted in a decisive USN victory, I believe it is possible, just very unlikely)

The outcomes varied from heavy damage to no damage with maximum airstrikes. Combinations of these results indicate that the whole sprectrum of outcomes could occur, from decisive IJN to decisive USN.

[afenelon]

Originally posted by denisonh


I believe this reinforces the assertion that the IJN will win this engagement outright 40% of the time, draw 50% of the time, and lose 10% of the time. (although none of my tests resulted in a decisive USN victory, I believe it is possible, just very unlikely)

-Well, IT WAS POSSIBLE (this particular result would happen
-in, maybe, 1% of the cases, which made me suspect something
-was wrong)....to verify this we should make, many...many
-tests, and still we couldn´t say it is due to a particular
-version since we have no control group

The outcomes varied from heavy damage to no damage with maximum airstrikes. Combinations of these results indicate that the whole sprectrum of outcomes could occur, from decisive IJN to decisive USN. [/B]

-I´m happy to know there is no bias in the game engine. I
-think the tests you made were enough to prove that. I think
-I developed a way to test the isolated influence of each
-isolated variable in a Carrier combat, using SPSS spreadsheets.
-But it takes too time, and many players ruiing the same
-tests are needed. I can explain more if you´re interested.

[denisonh]

I could do the same using SPlus, but like you said, it would require a large number of tests.

You could run a small test and still acquire enough data to draw some basic inferences as to the effects of different factors/variables.

[afenelon]

Originally posted by denisonh
I could do the same using SPlus, but like you said, it would require a large number of tests.

You could run a small test and still acquire enough data to draw some basic inferences as to the effects of different factors/variables.

-But given the wide range of possible outcome you can
-get the wrong inference. Anyway, the tests I´m doing
-will give me some information of results variability
-too...