Pelton( Axis) vs carlkey58 Axis Victory Resigned

[NotOneStepBack]

Will be interested. Brittany is a tough place to land, as it is the farther distance from Berlin and will cost him a lot to get there.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: Baelfiin

ORIGINAL: Pelton

So far the only interesting game for me, carlkey has .13 loaded hehehe he is played all the edges of the game.

Goood man.

My feelings are hurt [:(] I was really trying not to bore you =p

No game has been boring.

I have tested the limits of what is possible under the current rule set.

Keep grinding until you know you have lost-so next time around you know what is possible and what is not.

[Peltonx]

Turn 49 VP’s this turn: -9 Total: 464
Troop ships lost: 320
WA’s have lost a massive amount of troop ships to-date.

Italy 2 failed WA assaults.

LXXXXVII Corp retakes 4 hexes. The plan is to drive along the coast over running tempo ports and tring to hold Brest.
2 infantry and 2 panzer divisions will help make the line solid and keep the drive going.
I only moved my reserves from Northern France and Italy, so both areas have a Corp in reserve.
Once the lines in Brittany are solid I will move 3-4 panzer divisions back into reserves for any up coming invasions,
but with the huge troop ship losses caused during 43 from the failed Italy invasion I don’t see WA’s making any more large landing.

[Peltonx]

Turn 58 VP’s this turn: -9 Total: 411
Troop ships lost: 392

10 turns ago the WA's landed in Brittany and I figured I should do an up-date. Over the last 10 turns 106 troop ships have been lost and VP count has dropped by
62.

Italy has been static basicly, Germany launched a small offensive on the same turn WA's did and the out come was a few VP lost by WA's, 2 German divisions and 1 hex.

All the ports have a garrison with 3 panzer divisions in reserve in Italy and all ports in Southern France have garrisons. I don't see much happening as the loss of troop ships have been very high and climbing with each passing turn.

[Peltonx]

In Brittany for the last 4 turns the WA's have been hammering away at the Germany front lines and carpet bombing behind the front lines.

Here is a standard print of the battles.

[Peltonx]

The WA's spent 3 turns attacking 1 hex on the northern side of the lines and failed each turn to take a hex, this turn they are tring 2 hexes on the southern side of the lines.

So far I have been able to rotate divisions from one quite hex to the critical hex each turn so fresh divisions are in line each turn and the damaged divisions get replacements.

As of now the front is 30 miles deep with level 3-2 forts so WA's have allot of pounding to do before they brake out hopefully.

The key for 14th Army is holding the WA's bottled up until October when bad weather hits and more new divisions arrive.

So far the bombing of Germany is having little effect of the ground war and not gaining enough VP's to of set the ground losses caused by all the held results each turn.

[Peltonx]

Coastal defenses are very strong from Denmark to Brittany with 5 20 CV panzer divisions in reserve.
Over the next 10 turns 17 more infantry divisions arrive, 6 panzer regiments and 2 GD with only 1 PD heading east.
Also a boat load of SU's.

Plan is to move several of the PD to Brittany as an equal number of CV arrive.

IF 14th Army can hang on until October 44 its going to be very hard for the WAs to get off from Brittany.

[loki100]

given that historically the Germans had to send all their materiels to make fortifications to create the Atlantic Wall it seems pretty unbalanced to keep on seeing all these rows of level 2-3 forts in Italy that you produce? Perhaps a need for the WiTE rule where forts over a small number cost more and more AP in order to nerf that exploit?

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: loki100

given that historically the Germans had to send all their materiels to make fortifications to create the Atlantic Wall it seems pretty unbalanced to keep on seeing all these rows of level 2-3 forts in Italy that you produce? Perhaps a need for the WiTE rule where forts over a small number cost more and more AP in order to nerf that exploit?

They only cost 1 AP, in Italy other then on the Coast line.

[loki100]

ORIGINAL: Pelton

ORIGINAL: loki100

given that historically the Germans had to send all their materiels to make fortifications to create the Atlantic Wall it seems pretty unbalanced to keep on seeing all these rows of level 2-3 forts in Italy that you produce? Perhaps a need for the WiTE rule where forts over a small number cost more and more AP in order to nerf that exploit?

They only cost 1 AP, in Italy other then on the Coast line.

thats too little given the demands of the Atlantic Wall. It allows you to substantially increase the number of units that can dig in over the real OOB ... sounds like its a trick that needs eliminating

[Baelfiin]

It was realy easy to dig in in italy

[marion61]

And not to mention that you really don't have the manpower to keep doing it, and forts aren't all that hard to take with engineers and artillery. Just have the right su's in the fight.

[Flaviusx]

Pelton, you're being awfully complacent about that game with Liquidsky. Seems to me that he's got your number over there.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Pelton, you're being awfully complacent about that game with Liquidsky. Seems to me that he's got your number over there.

yes once you get the ports, you simply dig in and then you can invade some place else.
Germans simply don't have the troops to cover a 2nd large landing until October.

Its really easy to win as allies by simply skipping Italy and landing before turn 20 on northern Europe coast. Germans simply do not have the divisions when EF Box is not checked, because so many get moved east.

Personally I land turn 10-12 like in one of my other games and not wait as long as LS.

Not even sure why people waste any time in the Med when its game set match landing asap in France.

[Peltonx]

Turn 63 VP’s this turn: -9 Total: 368
Troop ships lost: 404 Cargo Ships Lost: 1869

WA’s stop beating their heads against the Brittany Line and invaded Southern France on turn 61.

[Peltonx]

No ports even close to invasion site. I only bring units I need so when he gets driven into the sea I can garrison things in 1 turn.
2 hexes recaputured.

[Peltonx]

Complete stalemant in Italy

[Peltonx]

Germany is being carpet bombed every non-poor turn.

[Peltonx]

Turn 64 VP’s this turn: -14 Total: 354
Troop ships lost: 406 Cargo Ships Lost: 1899
Looks like carlkey is setting up another invasion as troops are being pulled off line in Italy. Brittany is safe and Southern France locked down.
I will start pulling PD/GD off line and get ready for the next invasion working from North to south.

[Peltonx]

Turn 65 VP’s this turn: -3 Total: 351
Troop ships lost: 411 Cargo Ships Lost: 1923

It’s a good thing I started pulling units off line as Carl has tried to out flank my Brittany Line. The key to holding that little invasion is that I had the key hexes locked down with infantry. As can be seen he is completely given up and pulled his better units off The Brittany Line hoping that this invasion will out flank it. II SS Panzer Corp routes a regiment off the beaches and the beachhead is sealed off for now.