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Gary Grigsby’s War in the West 1943-45 is the most ambitious and detailed computer wargame on the Western Front of World War II ever made. Starting with the Summer 1943 invasions of Sicily and Italy and proceeding through the invasions of France and the drive into Germany, War in the West brings you all the Allied campaigns in Western Europe and the capability to re-fight the Western Front according to your plan.

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Seems to be dead.
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seems and is, is two different things, [8|][:'(]
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If there are no posts for several days on main game forum, it does speak volumes.

Compare to WitE or WitP-AE forums.
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just some forums and members have more to speak of than others, doesn't mean too much tbh
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just some forums and members have more to speak of than others, doesn't mean too much tbh

I play it, I enjoy it. Just don't have much to say.
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just some forums and members have more to speak of than others, doesn't mean too much tbh

Which itself says there is no working community. I am not disparaging the game and obviously many are same people who basically also play WitE like me.

BUT, if people are not regularly asking questions or offering opinions about differing things....that is telling.

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There's always been less discussion here than with WitE and less AARs, and I think, more than with other games, WitW tends to be played against the AI since one player has the initiative for the entire campaign. I also think there is less to argue over and discuss than with WitE (being it is based on the existing WitE engine). I can assure you sales are not dead, although WitE has benefited by being on Steam the past year. Any day the last released public beta will become the new official version and a new public beta will be released (we thought it would be out in late September but it was delayed due to Matrix production delays). However, since no balance issues have come up, the new public beta just fixes a few bugs that have been spotted over the summer. From our perspective it's nice to have a game that doesn't require a lot of constant adjustments and redevelopment, although it's always nice to get feedback and see AARs of the game.
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There's always been less discussion here than with WitE and less AARs, and I think, more than with other games, WitW tends to be played against the AI since one player has the initiative for the entire campaign. I also think there is less to argue over and discuss than with WitE (being it is based on the existing WitE engine). I can assure you sales are not dead, although WitE has benefited by being on Steam the past year. Any day the last released public beta will become the new official version and a new public beta will be released (we thought it would be out in late September but it was delayed due to Matrix production delays). However, since no balance issues have come up, the new public beta just fixes a few bugs that have been spotted over the summer. From our perspective it's nice to have a game that doesn't require a lot of constant adjustments and redevelopment, although it's always nice to get feedback and see AARs of the game.

Thanks for your insight. One of my reasons for my post was to trigger things like this, I hope it was not considered offensive.

I come from crowd of WitP and WitP-AE that have gathered almost fanatical cult following. [:D]
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Is there any other DLC planned?
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No plans for anything at the moment. The focus is on WitE2. Once that is done, we will have a system that theoretically could provide scenarios all around Europe and North Africa. Are there any scenarios you'd like seen covered?
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North African campaign (40-43) !!!
...I know that the problem is the naval system too abstract ... but after WitE2...
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No plans for anything at the moment. The focus is on WitE2. Once that is done, we will have a system that theoretically could provide scenarios all around Europe and North Africa. Are there any scenarios you'd like seen covered?

Hey guys, I now own WitW, bought it yesterday on steam. I'm playing WitE too, (grabbed a copy for five bucks in a local mall in Germany and got both expansions from steam[:D]) but only against the ai. And I got to say, both games are very different from every strategic wargame I ever played before...They're ultracomplex. They're absolutely historically accurate. That's why they're so much fun. I do not think I can imagine how complicated and nervewrecking it must have been to put these little monsters together... But please Matrix, why don't you make the next game cover the whole second world war? Perhaps because it would take forever? Please explain...
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I love the air war system and long for the day we get a naval equivalent. Perhaps someone will finally do The Battle of the Atlantic justice. I understand why and agree that a campaign in the West might get rather dull in the '39-41 timeline, but given that we have air-only scenarios, adding a naval component could make for some really fun early war waging, even if only in scenario form. Of course, combining this with the Eastern front in one massive War in Europe campaign would probably force me into early retirement and risk my marriage. Not that I'd complain.
I want to second this. The air war in WitW goes very well. It will certainly help WitE2 and it would be great to see something equally good for the naval parts of the game. And then, maybe in 20 or 30 years, given 2by3's pace of releases, we MIGHT get a new War in the Pacific?
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