Godzilla {J: Andav} vs. Rodan {A: witpqs}

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Well we just did it recently.

Different bit of help needed: browser link to go to the last post or at least the last page of this AAR. I took my bookmark from the old AAR and modified it with this AAR number (the "m=########") but it only takes me to top of first page. I've played around with it since then but no joy. Any ideas?

Sounds like a syntax error ...

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: witpqs

Well we just did it recently.

Different bit of help needed: browser link to go to the last post or at least the last page of this AAR. I took my bookmark from the old AAR and modified it with this AAR number (the "m=########") but it only takes me to top of first page. I've played around with it since then but no joy. Any ideas?

Sounds like a syntax error ...

The first iteration was I only replaced the old thread number with the new thread number. And I just went to the top of the first page instead of the bottom of the second page. No joy with any attempts since then.

[witpqs]

Sync Bug!

Just beginning to look at things but here is the corrected combat report.

[witpqs]

1941 December 07

It figures Devious Admiral Wa would live up to his name on the first turn. The prior version of the Pearl Harbor attacks was a ruse. The reality is worse.

Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 56
B5N2 Kate x 90
D3A1 Val x 101

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 5 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 11 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 74 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 6 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 12 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 8 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 10 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 7 damaged
R3D-2: 1 damaged
O-47A: 1 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 1 damaged
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB California, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 5, on fire
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, on fire
CM Oglala, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AVD Hulbert, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 6
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 2
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1
DD Worden, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
PC Reliance, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1
DD MacDonough, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Helm, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Repair Shipyard hits 2
Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 33
Port hits 15
Port fuel hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
7 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th PG/6th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes

Training flight from 18th PG/6th PS has been caught up in attack
Magazine explodes on BB California

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Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 50 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
B5N2 Kate x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 1
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes

Training flight from 18th PG/73rd PS has been caught up in attack

California is sunk, as are DM Preble and PC Reliance. They were the only ships sunk across the board.

As you can see in the picture below, Nevada and West Virginia have minor damage compared to other ships and will get priority for full repairs. Tennessee of course will make her own repairs at anchor.

Surface combat TF's are forming at Pearl Harbor, one around 3x modern CL, one around 3x CA, and two of DD's. Will the IJN carrier striking force remain for another day of strikes? Will they begin hunting for the USN carriers that were so nearly caught in port?

Still working on the turn.

[jwolf]

Even the "revised" PH attack doesn't seem really bad. If you don't take any more damage right away that appears to be very manageable. I'm curious what the next day will bring.

Edit addendum: it must be discouraging to get a sync bug right on the first turn. [:(][:@]

[GetAssista]

Woah, 1 BB untouched plus 2 others in 20 sys damage. Not a lot of times does one see PH attack this mild

[scondon87]

Given my last game, PH lost 7 BBs, you should be ecstatic about that result!

[witpqs]

Last time I lost 6x BB outright and damage was pretty bad overall. This time I got off easy. Of course the cruel ruse was even better, but no complaints here!

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: jwolf

Even the "revised" PH attack doesn't seem really bad. If you don't take any more damage right away that appears to be very manageable. I'm curious what the next day will bring.

Edit addendum: it must be discouraging to get a sync bug right on the first turn. [:(][:@]

The sync bug has given me another item for Intel Monkey. You can see a sync bug when it happens if you notice that the combatreport.txt file which the turn file writes is different than the one the replay writes. The turn writes over the same file so you have to take note ahead of time. Well it turns out that the combatreport_411207.txt file in the archive folder got written by the replay but did *not* get written over by the turn.

That means when Intel Monkey is told to process new files it can first look at SAVE\combatreport.txt and, if it has the same date inside as SAVE\archive\combatreport_yymmdd.txt has, then the two files can be compared. If the same, OK. If not the same, "Sync Bug!", and Intel Monkey can rename the 'bad' SAVE\archive\combatreport_yymmdd.txt and replace it with the 'good' SAVE\combatreport.txt file.

Once the next turn's replay has been run it is too late because the only 'good' report file is the one the turn file writes in SAVE, the one in SAVE\archive does not get updated and you are stuck with that wrong info for the duration.

[witpqs]

1941 December 07

Manually copied the good combat report into archive and reloaded the Intel Monkey database to get correct data. {Procedure: Go into Database Maintenance, click on Create/Replace Main Database & confirm, Exit to Main Menu, Process New Files, voila!}

Destruction of attacking enemy aircraft today was negligible. Maybe this will mitigate in favor of KB striking again tomorrow?

I am unable to conclude that all 6 IJN fleet carriers are present in Hawaiian waters. Only 247 carrier aircraft were seen in one attack, 57 in the other for a total of 304. Is it possible there are only 5 IJN fleet carriers present?

• TF 4x USN DD basing at Soerabaja will patrol at Singkawang.

• TF 4x USN DD from Manila will patrol from Iba to Laoag. There is an enemy landing in progress at Laoag and multiple enemy TF heading toward Iba.

• Saratoga is heading for Hawaii from San Diego.

• Massive exodus from Manila. The tankers (all types) will load fuel before departing. Waiting to carry precious fuel might be in their favor as surface raiders and carrier hangers run out of ordnance. Most ships are grouped by speed with some broken out by range too. Only a few have luxury of escort.

• Two damaged submarines will make for Pearl Harbor while a few with minor damage attempt repairs at Soerabaja. All other submarines will base at Soerabaja and proceed directly to their patrol zones.

• Two B-17 squadrons at Cagayan will strike the airfields at Babeldaob. The two squadrons at Clark have only 2 and 0 undamaged aircraft and will rally at Balikpapan as places repair to await orders. Four damaged fighters are being left behind at Iba as it faces imminent invasion. Hopefully they repair in time to fly out. CAP at Clark is thereby increased but the place is already a mess. Most aircraft from Hong Kong are attempting to escape through Luzon and Calayan just north but enemy attention will catch them.

• Force Z will base at Balikpapan to concentrate with USN forces against a guessed at enemy thrust into those waters, particularly any carrier forces operating from Babeldaob.

• Damaged ships at Singapore will be repaired in the shipyard before sailing. Destroyers will take 1 or 2 days, CL Mauritius 3 days. xAP Dominion Monarch requires 5 days but repairing her 20 engine damage should be worth it.

• DD Vendetta, the only undamaged serious combatant at Singapore, will join with the 3x CL at Palembang for ASW protection when they sortie in response to any incursion outside of the enemy's heavy air cover in the South China Sea. Other warships are being rushed in from the Indian Ocean but there are no destroyers to be found as they are all of hunting the U-boat menace.

• I am thinking about *not* pulling any combat forces out of Singapore, only support units as their contribution is superfluous. The intention is to make Singapore last as long as possible. Air assets will be saved as completely as possible to protect the Indian Ocean. Opinions?

• A squadron of the AVG from Toungoo, a Blenheim IV squadron from Singapore, and a Blenheim I squadron from Alor Star have deployed to Tavoy and tomorrow will sweep Bangkok and strike heavy industry there. The other two squadrons of the AVG would have to be bought out, which I will not do, so they will fight in China when they leave Toungoo.

• The obvious parades of ships making their way from starting locations to Aden, Abadan, Cape Town, and the USA West Coast. Medium and short range ships plus small capacity ships are staying in their theaters.

• The garrison on Skull Island will rely on fog to hide them.

• CL Adelaide is moving from Port Moresby to Rabaul.

• CL Achilles will remain in the vicinity of Fiji, on duty against raiders.

I have more to do going through ground units. Maybe done then.

[witpqs]

1941 December 07

• The two other Bns of the 30 th Aus Bde are being sea lifted from Sydney to Port Moresby to join their sibling. We are going to dig in there.

• The 8th and 2nd USMC Rgts will be sent to Pago Pago, one amphibious loaded and one transport loaded.

• 5x Clemson DD at Seattle are converting to APD.

Turn is away.

[Zorch]

BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Torp hits shouldn't be allowed on ships in dry dock...unless the scenario specifies else wise.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Zorch

BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Torp hits shouldn't be allowed on ships in dry dock...unless the scenario specifies else wise.

Logically, yes - but I expect it would have meant programming handstands that there was neither time nor money to do - for a single exception to the port attack model for turn 1. One of the many compromises that had to be made to deliver the game within given time and resources.

[witpqs]

In the game Pennsylvania is not in dry dock.

[witpqs]

IRL info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleship_Row

[Zorch]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Zorch

BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Torp hits shouldn't be allowed on ships in dry dock...unless the scenario specifies else wise.

Logically, yes - but I expect it would have meant programming handstands that there was neither time nor money to do - for a single exception to the port attack model for turn 1. One of the many compromises that had to be made to deliver the game within given time and resources.

As a software professional, I am shocked, shocked, that compromises were made for the sake of a deadline or budget!

[witpqs]

1941 December 08

Laoag is occupied by the Japanese
Japanese forces CAPTURE Kota Bharu !!!
Japanese forces CAPTURE Makin !!!

• The KB headed pretty much straight west. Aiming to support a Wake invasion? Makin was invaded today so Tarawa might be next. Our carriers are undetected heading for Canton and could intercede there. But what of KB's movements tomorrow? We lost a destroyer to an air strike from KB as it retires. B-17's attacked the KB twice and made drops from 10,000 ft on Zuikaku and Shokaku.

• Full squadrons (minus shortages) of PBY moved to Hilo, Johnston Island, Palmyra. When recovered enough at Pearl Harbor another will move to Canton Island.

• The Empire mined Lubang instead of Bataan but we assigned mine sweepers to both.

• CA Chokai slid into the Sulu Sea across the north coast of Borneo, sinking two merchants and a precious submarine tender.

• We lost 4 destroyers in the South China Sea to IJN surface forces. 2 RN DD were caught by a CL and a number of DD, one of which they likely destroyed. The survivor will start again from Hong Kong. 4 USN DD sped to their aid and gave good accounts at night. When finally caught in daylight their 4 inch guns were over matched. One sunk, two blazing hulks scuttled, and the survivor a flaming wreck but just might get lucky.

• 85 enemy fighters seen at Aparri.

• KB2 is 3 hexes east of Samar, scouting 1x CV, 2x CVL, many DD, 43:F, 69:B, 6:A. It sure looks like a fleet carrier deployed here instead of to Hawaii. Does this look like two CVL? Vals?

Morning Air attack on TF, near Guiuan at 82,85

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
A6M2 Zero x 8
D3A1 Val x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Escalante, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Taurus, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Escalante
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Taurus

• Another two-ship TF (CA & DD?) appears heading into the Sulu Sea from near Subic bay.

• Our Seagulls - only a small flock - scored some hits on an xAKL but paid when fighters caught them without escort in a later attack.

• No air strike or sweep from Tavoy on Bangkok. The fighters are ordered to escort the bombers instead of sweeping. Some bombers made the additional hop to Moulmein. Some more fighters arrived, these from Georgetown.

• We've begun a general withdrawal of forces in Malaya to Singapore. The general strategy is to make Singapore last as long as possible (as mentioned earlier).

• 10 enemy LCU are at Hong Kong, but of course they are doomed.

Attached is the complete combat report.

[witpqs]

1941 December 08

KB2

[witpqs]

A trivial sync bug this turn.

[witpqs]

1941 December 09

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarawa !!!

• Problem. We have lost contact with KB. Did they just happen to be under a cloud formation when a PBY passed by or did they make a high-speed run in an unexpected direction? They could be SE Johnston Island just outside of yesterday's search coverage where another high-speed run would put them within striking distance of Enterprise. Lexington, Enterprise, and Indianapolis (in-hex with Enterprise) will make full speed toward Canton Island tomorrow. If KB has obtained SigInt or merely guessed right that will put our carriers out of range and search from Palmyra should spot KB.

• Saratoga and following AO will head for Christmas Island.

• One enemy ship is just NE of Kavieng. CL Adelaide is at Rabaul and will intercept at Kavieng. Empire flying boats from Port Moresby will attack with 500 lb bombs but at their training level more likely will drop cocktails and napkins.

• Our fighters over Luzon are doing OK, taking more losses versus enemy fighters but also getting a few bombers. One flight of enemy bombers was caught alone and hurt badly as they sank 2x small YO.

• San Fernando will likely fall tomorrow to a division equivalent force put ashore today. With 2x tank regiments drying their treads the PA Inf Div at Lingayen won't stand a chance and will withdraw to Clark. Another at Iba will also move to Clark as is the the 4th Marine Rgt. Our tanks are at Baler waiting to ambush a small enemy force, likely paratroopers.

• KB2 is still just E of Samar.

• There is an invasion convoy near KB2, presumed target Legaspi.

• There is heavy readio traffic without accompanying naval search hit just E of Luzon. Presuming invasion convoy targeting Mauban or Baler.

• Yesterday reported our armor on Luzon at Baler, should have written Bayombong.

• Two enemy TF's scouting as 2 ships and 3 ships are heading into the Celebes Sea. Now S of Davao they aim to intercept those fleeing the Cylon tyranny. Oh, wrong movie. At any rate the USN cruisers and destroyers just refueled and consolidated at Balikpapan and will patrol to stop them S of Jolo. Force Z will refuel at Balikpapan tomorrow.

• Two merchants sunk in the South China Sea by CA Maya, CL Natori. One sunk mid-Philippines near Roxas by Val's. Another by submarine torpedoes and sub-laid mines near Singapore.

• 3x CL and a DD on their way to Brunei. 2 more DD just leaving Singapore to join them. They will strike at enemy surface forces in the Sulu Sea or South China Sea out of enemy air strike range if they can manage it.

• Still no success getting pilots to sortie against Bangkok heavy industry.

• Working on some opening day garrison issues in India. and at Mandalay.

• >1,400 AV will attack Ichang tomorrow. The Imperials left behind one unit of unknown strength there.

• So far most of our units in exposed positions in China are slipping away while only a couple have been caught.

Attached is the complete combat report.