.EXE - BUGS .. in v4.4 please mention here !

Billy Yank · Post by **Billy Yank** » Sat Nov 04, 2000 1:02 am

Originally posted by Fuerte:
I understood previously that Matrix Games will not fix any other bugs but the replay bug anymore. Do you have more information about this? I'm afraid that if the replay bug is not fixed in the next patch even if it said to be fixed, then even that is not fixed ever.

Really? Where did you read this? The last I saw on the subject was that they would only fix bugs. There's not going to be any new features added.

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Billy Yank
I don't define "my own" the way you want me to.

Windo von Paene · Post by **Windo von Paene** » Sat Nov 04, 2000 2:50 am

I think I have discovered a bug, but can't really tell...

E-mail game as Player 2, Germany vs. Ussr, October 1943. In the Buy | Infantry screen, it appears that there are buttons out of view to the bottom of the screen. The last item I can see is a HMG something, (can't remember off the top what the size designation is), and it looks like there is the start of a nother button below that, but I can't be sure...

Lars Remmen · Post by **Lars Remmen** » Sun Nov 05, 2000 12:30 pm

Hello,

AA kills still aren't added to the unit kill score.

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Lars
Nec Temere - Nec Timide

Fuerte · Post by **Fuerte** » Sun Nov 05, 2000 9:31 pm

Originally posted by Billy Yank:
Really? Where did you read this? The last I saw on the subject was that they would only fix bugs. There's not going to be any new features added.

Most of the bugs in this thread were probably already in the original Steel Panthers 3, and it is debatable if they are bugs or new features. There are so many bugs and missing features in SPWAW, that it would take years to fix them all.

Alby · Post by **Alby** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 6:01 am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steel Thunder:
I had two weird bugs when I played online (timed) game with my friend. We played on LAN.

1. My friend destroy my S0 Jagdpanther, no crew members survived all dies. So S1 Jagdpanther becames formation leader. Then a couple of turns later my friend destroy that S1 Jagdpanther. Then the weird thing happens. TWO crews escaped from destroyed vehicle. One was formation leader crew and the other was "ordinary" crew.

2. My fried destroy my PSW armored car on my turn. No crew members survived. Excatly in the same moment when the vehicle blows up there appears undamaged PSW in the same hex where the wreck is! When that reborned PSW destroyed on my next turn same thing appened. I think that is just fine, now I can have immortal army of King Tigers!

I think these bugs happened only in online games, I haven't had nothing like these in solitary games.

Steel Thunder

that happened all the time playing sp3 online
I believe its just a lag problem between computers, cant do anything about it if so...
we called them vampires (the units that come back to life)

Alby · Post by **Alby** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 6:07 am

) I'm not sure if this is still in 4.4, but at least in earlier version you could load normal infantry into cargo planes and drop them as paratroopers. I think that should be only allowed to paras. If you want drop normal infantry you should use gliders, even I think that not many GI would have liked board that thing either.

Yep its still in 4.4, dropped regular troops from cargo planes

David F. Wall · Post by **David F. Wall** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 5:14 pm

Via my latest catastrophic attempt at Utah to the Rhine, I confirmed that reinforcements requested during the opening scenario have been joined to the core force for the subsequent scenario. The AUX forces stayed put (too bad, coulda used all those Airborne guys)

My understanding was that reinforcements were only supposed to be part of the scnario in which they were requested, but maybe I'm reading things wrong?

steel · Post by **steel** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 5:33 pm

When enemys troops or tanks are to same hex whit my troops and i shoot them. Often my own troops take supression and disappering. That is not realistic !

This is definletly a bug.

Fredde · Post by **Fredde** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 5:47 pm

In addition to my earlier bug posting. Now i figured out how to recreate the error. Spot for artillery bombardment with mortar unit B0, assign itself (B0) to a target hex. Target another hex for the (B1) mortar unit, and the target hex for unit (B0) will be changed to that hex as well. Something like that anyway

Larry Holt · Post by **Larry Holt** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 9:39 pm

Originally posted by steel:
When enemys troops or tanks are to same hex whit my troops and i shoot them. Often my own troops take supression and disappering. That is not realistic !

This is definletly a bug.

Well, actually it is realistic and not a bug.
Bullets flying around a small area of 50 meters across will not hit only enemy troops. That is what friendly fire is all about. Your own troops see the bullets flying at them and get nervous (surpressed) just as they would if the enemy had fired them. You can even kill your own troops sometimes.

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Tortfeasor · Post by **Tortfeasor** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 10:32 pm

Is it posible to uppdate SPWAW so that you chould record the hole battle and replay it after the battle.

Lars Remmen · Post by **Lars Remmen** » Mon Nov 06, 2000 11:18 pm

Originally posted by steel:
When enemys troops or tanks are to same hex whit my troops and i shoot them. Often my own troops take supression and disappering. That is not realistic !

This is definletly a bug.

Do you shoot with the troops in the hex with the enemy or with a unit outside the hex? Automatic fire really pumps out some bullets and casualties could realisticly happen if a unit were shooting into the hex.

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Lars
Nec Temere - Nec Timide

Vonbrown · Post by **Vonbrown** » Tue Nov 07, 2000 2:23 pm

I have downloaded the complete game from Games Domain. It says the 4.0 version on Matrix website, but is 4.4 after download.
after installation which seemed to go smooth, I would click on the SPWAW icon on my desktop, and the autorun menu would appear. Choosing to play the game, the credits run and then nothing, I end up back at the desktop with the autorun menu. I have uninstalled and reinstalled, but nothing works. Previous versions have had no problem. Did I do something wrong?

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Fredde · Post by **Fredde** » Tue Nov 07, 2000 7:40 pm

In online games sometimes the action isn't showing to the opponent. This has happened to me mainly with auxilliary reinforcement troops. Until they arrive it seems to work nicely. Units get destroyed without any notice of what is happening, or any sign of who and what is firing. The unit just disappears (note, both units are perfectly visible to each other, front vs front so no spotting problems or things like that).

Windo von Paene · Post by **Windo von Paene** » Wed Nov 08, 2000 7:07 pm

I know this, or variations of this have been posted before, though not in this thread, so here goes.

PBEM game, Germ vs. Russia
At end of turn, russian airstrike is coming in. All of the enemy units were revealed while the plane was flying in. Also, interestingly, while this was happening, my russian units appeared to disappear. I only hope there still there when I get my turn back...

Tortfeasor · Post by **Tortfeasor** » Wed Nov 08, 2000 7:21 pm

Is
it
posible
to
uppdate
SPWAW
so
that
you
chould
record
the
hole
battle
and
replay
it
after
the
battle.

Fuerte · Post by **Fuerte** » Wed Nov 08, 2000 8:17 pm

No, you can't even replay the last turn correctly (only shots, no movement at all, and even that is not working in 4.4).

David F. Wall · Post by **David F. Wall** » Wed Nov 08, 2000 9:03 pm

Well, I suppose that modification would be possible, but it would probably be more work than it would wise for Matrix to undertake, and the result would consume staggering amounts of disk space unless on the fly compression were implemented. That probably wouldn't be that hard (employing the freely-distributable and resuable zlib from the Free Software Foundation) but that's even more work.

I don't speak for Matrix, of course, but I think the company is taking a position, though it's not yet been explicitly stated, that SPW@W is feature-frozen. That's not to say they shouldn't continue to fix things, but I think any significant new functionality is probably not possible.

ARIS · Post by **ARIS** » Thu Nov 09, 2000 12:25 am

I am playing a pbem game, and after calling reinforcements, and after 1-2 turns when they were supposed to arrive, the program reported "ERROR: can't place reinforcements on hex 99,x" or something similar for each one of the reinforcement troops. I can see the troops at my HQ menu, and I can click them. But they are not at the map.

The reinforcements I ordered are: partizans, T-34M42 and something else I don't remember.

And I guess I have the 20% pts penalty.

Kharan · Post by **Kharan** » Thu Nov 09, 2000 6:49 am

Originally posted by ARIS:
I am playing a pbem game, and after calling reinforcements, and after 1-2 turns when they were supposed to arrive, the program reported "ERROR: can't place reinforcements on hex 99,x" or something similar for each one of the reinforcement troops. I can see the troops at my HQ menu, and I can click them. But they are not at the map.

This means that the map has no reinforcement hexes. It can happen when you create your own map and forget to place them or when you modify victory hexes of an existing map from Deploy editor 1, after which the hexes don't get saved properly and get reset by battle generator. Sometimes in this process the reinforcement hexes are left out completely. It shouldn't happen if you use only player 2 Deploy editor.

I don't think it happens in totally random maps and scenarios.

[This message has been edited by Kharan (edited November 08, 2000).]