PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Excuse me Mayhemizer, but the mongolian CAV is already in 49,134.
Tell me where to go.
Tell me where to go.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
My bad. CAV goes NE towards city.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
30% chance to end turn, 50% with full pass.
There are few thing Allies might want to do.
France:
Send CPs to west and east Med to get Iraq oil for production.
CW:
1) Send empty TRS from UK to Cape St. Vincent box 0, so that it can return to Egypt and bring ARM HQ to France next turn.
2) Send CA to North Sea and Faroes Gap. Always keep one unit on those sea areas or German ships can sail to North Atlantic when they are based to Kiel. We are playing with "In The Presence Of The Enemy" so those CAs will stop that raid.
3) Send CV from UK to Gibraltar, unless you already sent it. This came to my mind after closing the game.
USSR:
Move Com Chinese HQ to Tungkwan and MIL from Tungkwan two hexes east. 5-3 INF one hex NE. NExt turn I get INF to supply and can move it twice before it is disorganized.
Nationalist Chinese:
Retreat towards Chungking with every unit that can move (except with Warlords and 4-1 GAR in Chengchow).
What do you think about these?
There are few thing Allies might want to do.
France:
Send CPs to west and east Med to get Iraq oil for production.
CW:
1) Send empty TRS from UK to Cape St. Vincent box 0, so that it can return to Egypt and bring ARM HQ to France next turn.
2) Send CA to North Sea and Faroes Gap. Always keep one unit on those sea areas or German ships can sail to North Atlantic when they are based to Kiel. We are playing with "In The Presence Of The Enemy" so those CAs will stop that raid.
3) Send CV from UK to Gibraltar, unless you already sent it. This came to my mind after closing the game.
USSR:
Move Com Chinese HQ to Tungkwan and MIL from Tungkwan two hexes east. 5-3 INF one hex NE. NExt turn I get INF to supply and can move it twice before it is disorganized.
Nationalist Chinese:
Retreat towards Chungking with every unit that can move (except with Warlords and 4-1 GAR in Chengchow).
What do you think about these?
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Hello Mayhemizer.
Two CVs are already in W. med and another one in Gibraltar. Only one rest in Britain.
I will send 2 TRAs to S. Vicent, so I could trans 2 planes, a FTR and a BOM to Med. 1 Trans will came back to Britain, and the other to Egypt.
Ok?
Two CVs are already in W. med and another one in Gibraltar. Only one rest in Britain.
I will send 2 TRAs to S. Vicent, so I could trans 2 planes, a FTR and a BOM to Med. 1 Trans will came back to Britain, and the other to Egypt.
Ok?
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Sounds like a plan. Remember to send transporters to box 0 so that it reaches Egypt.ORIGINAL: Pacetti
Hello Mayhemizer.
Two CVs are already in W. med and another one in Gibraltar. Only one rest in Britain.
I will send 2 TRAs to S. Vicent, so I could trans 2 planes, a FTR and a BOM to Med. 1 Trans will came back to Britain, and the other to Egypt.
Ok?
Also send some weak CAs to North Sea and Faroes Gap.
You can play impulse and do French and USSR moves. I think France has CPs in Syria and Casablanca.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Hello, Mayhemizer.
Are you going to initiate combat?
Are you going to initiate combat?
RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Sorry, I forgot they doesn´t exist.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Oops, I thought Italian FTR is disorganized. They will intercept with NAV.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Here are my instructions for new impulse. I can also play this impulse if you have less actions to do.
No DoW.
France and USSR combined.
France sends CP from Casablanca to West Med.
French bomber attack Munich landing back to same hex where it starts (56,33).
Land moves
USSR
Com Chinese MIL to Tungkwan.
Com Chinese HQ one hex west to mountain.
France
MIL in 56,31 (woods) to 53,30 (SE of Lille)
Now all Nat Chinese units can run to west, most likely turn ends. I suggest to take risk with 3-4 CAV and move one hex west.
No DoW.
France and USSR combined.
France sends CP from Casablanca to West Med.
French bomber attack Munich landing back to same hex where it starts (56,33).
Land moves
USSR
Com Chinese MIL to Tungkwan.
Com Chinese HQ one hex west to mountain.
France
MIL in 56,31 (woods) to 53,30 (SE of Lille)
Now all Nat Chinese units can run to west, most likely turn ends. I suggest to take risk with 3-4 CAV and move one hex west.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
About escorts... I think CW should keep 2 ships in 0 box and 2 ships in higher box ready to drop down next turn. One ship in box 0 does not effect to submarines enough.
Note that German ships can return to Kiel, including AMPH. I wonder why they bring that too, are they going to UK? You need to keep some land units (1-2) in UK always. And keep ship on North Sea at the end of every turn.
Note that German ships can return to Kiel, including AMPH. I wonder why they bring that too, are they going to UK? You need to keep some land units (1-2) in UK always. And keep ship on North Sea at the end of every turn.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
All German ships went to Kiel. They also built PARA div. CW must be carefull with possible attack to UK. At least if all units leave UK they might attack even if it’s not a plan at the moment.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Hello Mayhemizer.
We move first this turn.
China is taking land, of course, but CW will take naval.
I´ll send Wawell to France. Tell me the units you would like to form BEF II.
Any russian DOW or special action?
We move first this turn.
China is taking land, of course, but CW will take naval.
I´ll send Wawell to France. Tell me the units you would like to form BEF II.
Any russian DOW or special action?
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
I have been on holiday, I take a look tonight or tomorrow. I’m on my way to home now.
Did you send save file at the start of the turn?
Did you send save file at the start of the turn?
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
Instructions for USSR/France and some suggestions.
USSR claims Bessarabia. If that is denied, all USSR plans will be redone.
USSR combined, France naval.
I suggest CW sends Wavell to Bay of Bengal on transporter and debarks him to Bayonne where he is safe. You can debark him this impulse if you choose combined or next impulse if you choose naval. Don't sail to southern France ports, Axis naval bombers in Italy will attack.
I suggest CW sends to France 2 of following units: MOT, INF or London MIL. I would say INF and MIL, but MOT is in Plymouth and TRS can sail to Bay of Biscay where it is safe from Kriegsmarine.
Maybe naval is good option so that you can get escorts to all seas, weather is bad and Germany may send submarines now and attack Belgium when weather is better.
Naval moves for France
Transporter from Brest to Cape Verde Basin box 0, load MIL on it.
3x BB from Marseilles to West Med box 3.
2x BB and CA from Oran to West Med box 3.
CA in West Med box 1 to box 0.
Sub from Marseilles to Italian coast bo 2. No need for CW to send sub this impulse, France takes hit if Axis find.
4x CA in Casablanca are free for CW to use as escorts in Cape St. Vincent and Cape Verde Basin. Maybe 2x 5 speed to CSV box 4 and 2x 6 speed to CVB box 4.
CA from Aden to East Med box 4.
2x CP from Aden to Beirut.
France initiates combat on Italian coast.
Rail move
USSR rail 5-1 GAR from Kiev to Cernauti.
Land move
Sian MIL one hex east with HQ.
3-4 CAV in Poland to 52,52 woods.
ENG from Odessa to 57,57.
INF from 56,55 toi Odessa.
3-2 ARt to Chisinau.
I suggest Nat Chinese give up Nanyang and send MIL to Chengchow, that why their units live longer. Or MIL try to escape west, 1 hex this impulse and 2 hexes next impulse.
Rebase for USSR
TB-3 to Baku.
SB-2bis to Tilfis.
Pe-2 to Batum.
IL-4 to Baku.
Rebase for France
FTR from Paris to 56,31 woods.
USSR claims Bessarabia. If that is denied, all USSR plans will be redone.
USSR combined, France naval.
I suggest CW sends Wavell to Bay of Bengal on transporter and debarks him to Bayonne where he is safe. You can debark him this impulse if you choose combined or next impulse if you choose naval. Don't sail to southern France ports, Axis naval bombers in Italy will attack.
I suggest CW sends to France 2 of following units: MOT, INF or London MIL. I would say INF and MIL, but MOT is in Plymouth and TRS can sail to Bay of Biscay where it is safe from Kriegsmarine.
Maybe naval is good option so that you can get escorts to all seas, weather is bad and Germany may send submarines now and attack Belgium when weather is better.
Naval moves for France
Transporter from Brest to Cape Verde Basin box 0, load MIL on it.
3x BB from Marseilles to West Med box 3.
2x BB and CA from Oran to West Med box 3.
CA in West Med box 1 to box 0.
Sub from Marseilles to Italian coast bo 2. No need for CW to send sub this impulse, France takes hit if Axis find.
4x CA in Casablanca are free for CW to use as escorts in Cape St. Vincent and Cape Verde Basin. Maybe 2x 5 speed to CSV box 4 and 2x 6 speed to CVB box 4.
CA from Aden to East Med box 4.
2x CP from Aden to Beirut.
France initiates combat on Italian coast.
Rail move
USSR rail 5-1 GAR from Kiev to Cernauti.
Land move
Sian MIL one hex east with HQ.
3-4 CAV in Poland to 52,52 woods.
ENG from Odessa to 57,57.
INF from 56,55 toi Odessa.
3-2 ARt to Chisinau.
I suggest Nat Chinese give up Nanyang and send MIL to Chengchow, that why their units live longer. Or MIL try to escape west, 1 hex this impulse and 2 hexes next impulse.
Rebase for USSR
TB-3 to Baku.
SB-2bis to Tilfis.
Pe-2 to Batum.
IL-4 to Baku.
Rebase for France
FTR from Paris to 56,31 woods.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
About aborted combat. With all CPs sink or aborted, Allies should stay. Sub can’t really hurt cruisers, but cruisers can sink sub. Now we can send new CPs but without escorts.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
France and USSR combined
No naval moves, no naval combat in West Med, unless CW send enough planes and CW want to fight, then French ships can take all possible damage to save CW ships.
French bomber bombs factories in Munich and lands back to same hex.
Rail moves
French Bordeaux MIL from Bordeaux to Marseilles.
USSR 3-1 GAR from Minsk to Brest-Litovsk in Poland.
Land move
USSR
2-1 GAR in 57,55 to Chisinau
2-3 INF div from Odessa to 55,54
2-3 AT gun adjacent to Odessa goes to Odessa
MECH from 55,53 to woods 53,50
In China Sian MIL to 77,139
No land moves for France.
Air rebase
Pe-2 from Batum to Baku
SB-2bis from Tiflis to west of Baku 68,77
No naval moves, no naval combat in West Med, unless CW send enough planes and CW want to fight, then French ships can take all possible damage to save CW ships.
French bomber bombs factories in Munich and lands back to same hex.
Rail moves
French Bordeaux MIL from Bordeaux to Marseilles.
USSR 3-1 GAR from Minsk to Brest-Litovsk in Poland.
Land move
USSR
2-1 GAR in 57,55 to Chisinau
2-3 INF div from Odessa to 55,54
2-3 AT gun adjacent to Odessa goes to Odessa
MECH from 55,53 to woods 53,50
In China Sian MIL to 77,139
No land moves for France.
Air rebase
Pe-2 from Batum to Baku
SB-2bis from Tiflis to west of Baku 68,77
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
I just noticed, that attack to Persia is not automatic, as ARM HQ don't reach capital [X(]
Well, there is not turning back and reinforcements are too far to be railed. So attack will be done with minor risk.
Odds are pretty good, I get 4:1 attack. With ground strikes I try to hit so that defender gets automatically killed even if I lose both attacking units (10% chance). Even if I lose both, HQ can take capital.
Well, there is not turning back and reinforcements are too far to be railed. So attack will be done with minor risk.
Odds are pretty good, I get 4:1 attack. With ground strikes I try to hit so that defender gets automatically killed even if I lose both attacking units (10% chance). Even if I lose both, HQ can take capital.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
So nobody pointed out that with Motorized movement it takes more than 4 MP to reach Teheran? [:)]ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer
Hello all,
I hope you all enjoy following us to the victory!
This is the place where we plan how do beat Orm and Peskpesk.
USSR has a plan, please let me know if there is mistake in my plans I don't understand:
USSR places 3 units to Persian border. On fine weather (1st impulse of the turn) USSR attacks and Persia places 3 strength CAV to capital. USSR attacks on surprise impulse using bombers to make attack 30:3 = automatic.
If CAV is placed anywhere else, USSR ground strikes CAV and goes around it to Teheran.
Nothing can go wrong? Right?
We have motorized movement optional rule, so ARM HQ need 4 movement to get adjacent to Teheran.
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We are good anyway [;)]
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
It's even worse. What if the Persians decide not to put the CAV in the capital, but in the mountains, making it twice as strong? If you attack it, than you might get disorganised and next turn that pesky MIL turns up in Teheran.
That's why you always need a 4 moving INF at the most southern mountain hex next to the Caspian Sea south of Baku. It forces the Persians to setup the CAV in Teheran...
That's why you always need a 4 moving INF at the most southern mountain hex next to the Caspian Sea south of Baku. It forces the Persians to setup the CAV in Teheran...
Peter
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RE: PACETTI AND MAYHEMIZER secret plans
If it’s on mountais, can’t I just ground stike it with all planes and run with CAV around it (if I attack at the start of summer turn)? Or can Japanese send peacekeeper to southern port and rail it to Teheran?
Next turn ski div is coming, it has move 4. That should help?
Next turn ski div is coming, it has move 4. That should help?
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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