John III Lament

[Canoerebel]

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Funny. I grew up in Miami a die-hard Dolphins fans. Early '70s - Griese, Czonka, Warfield, Morris, Buonoconti, Little, Mandarich, Kuenchenberg, etc. I loved the Dolphins.

But I've never had a problem with Boston. Red Sox? Good teams or good players, sometimes both; not annoying, like Yankees. Patriots (I still think of them as the Boston Patriots)? Smart, though, superbly coached. Celtics? Good teams, and Larry Bird was awesome. Bruins? I have zero familiarity with hockey. I can't tell you which teams are good or bad and have no likes or dislikes.

I'm not a fan of the Yankees, but other than that I can't really think of any pro teams right now that merit real passionate dislike. The last team I can think of is the Oakland Raiders of the Jack Tatum era. The great teams are kind of fun: '70s Reds, '80s Celtics, '90s Bulls, 00s Patriots.

[Macclan5]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

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Funny. I grew up in Miami a die-hard Dolphins fans. Early '70s - Griese, Czonka, Warfield, Morris, Buonoconti, Little, Mandarich, Kuenchenberg, etc. I loved the Dolphins.

You must have hated those odd 'big games' Steve Grogan always seemed to pull off vs Miami... ?

Maybe that was late 70's or latter. Patriots always seemed to play a dark horse upset role in divisional games in my imperfect memory.

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Bruins? I have zero familiarity with hockey. I can't tell you which teams are good or bad and have no likes or dislikes.

In Hockey Terms - a pox a curse - the existence of a team rightfully stealing the crown of glory from other 'original 6 franchises' but especially Toronto - Montreal to a lesser degree - Detroit Red Wings - New York Rangers - Chicago Blackhawks - decreasingly down the list.

They didn't necessarily win the Stanley Cup more often - but seemed always to be strong at the 'wrong time' depending upon who your team was.

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I'm not a fan of the Yankees, but other than that I can't really think of any pro teams right now that merit real passionate dislike. The last team I can think of is the Oakland Raiders of the Jack Tatum era. The great teams are kind of fun: '70s Reds, '80s LAKERS , '90s Bulls, 00s Patriots.

Corrected your typo [8D]

[Canoerebel]

Lakers vs. Celtics was fun. I'm not a huge basketball fan. I don't think I've ever watched an NBA game. I've attended one. But I enjoy reading about the sport, and I keep up with the Atlanta Hawks, pulling for them to somehow someday do okay.

When I left Miami in 1979 to go to college in Georgia, I was still a big Dolphins fan. I attended one game (vs. the Jets) during a Christmas break, around 1980. That was the last pro football game I attended. When Don Shula left in the mid '80s, my last link to the teams of my boyhood was gone. I haven't followed the Dolphins since. I do pull for the Falcons but not in the same intense way. I've never been to a Falcons game.

The Atlanta Braves are my main pro team, and have been since 1974. I even enjoy the offseason, seeing how they and other teams try to build or tear down. I listen to them on the radio every time I can.

[anarchyintheuk]

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

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Funny. I grew up in Miami a die-hard Dolphins fans. Early '70s - Griese, Czonka, Warfield, Morris, Buonoconti, Little, Mandarich, Kuenchenberg, etc. I loved the Dolphins.

You must have hated those odd 'big games' Steve Grogan always seemed to pull off vs Miami... ?

Maybe that was late 70's or latter. Patriots always seemed to play a dark horse upset role in divisional games in my imperfect memory.

Fond memories of Steve Grogan dropping back in the pocket wearing a neck brace/whiplash protector (or maybe it hid a battery pack). Loved the old uniforms but always thought it was odd that the Patriots wore red considering the whole redcoat thing.

[Skyros]

As a Southern Yankee from the Boston area, I must speak in defense of my teams. We have seen worse times and just got lucky after 2000 that we have won 12 championships. I know what its like to lose in the first round of the playoffs on the road if we made the playoffs (Patriots). The Sox broke our hearts in 78 and 86 and even the Celtics had some bad years and bad luck, thinking of Len Bias. Hockey was never my sport, but I do remember Bobby Orr and not much after.

We waited a long time and just got lucky that it all occurred together. Hopefully we will not go back to championship desert.

[pontiouspilot]

I am sizeably ashamed to admit that I have started watching the Maple Leafs confident in the knowledge that they can find a way to screw up being a team of destiny. (pls don't tell anyone you caught me watching the Leafs!!)

[Lecivius]

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

I am sizeably ashamed to admit that I have started watching the Maple Leafs confident in the knowledge that they can find a way to screw up being a team of destiny. (pls don't tell anyone you caught me watching the Leafs!!)

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[btd64]

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

I am sizeably ashamed to admit that I have started watching the Maple Leafs confident in the knowledge that they can find a way to screw up being a team of destiny. (pls don't tell anyone you caught me watching the Leafs!!)

Your secret is safe with us.[:D]....GP

[rustysi]

ORIGINAL: btd64

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

I am sizeably ashamed to admit that I have started watching the Maple Leafs confident in the knowledge that they can find a way to screw up being a team of destiny. (pls don't tell anyone you caught me watching the Leafs!!)

Your secret is safe with us.[:D]....GP

For a price...[:'(]

[geofflambert]

ORIGINAL: fcooke

I am an evil Red Sox fan - but always have been, having grown up in Boston (Dorchester, not Southie :>) ). 86 devastated me, in Uni and swamped by tri-state NY fans at the time. Not a pigskin fan, so the Pats winning again is not a bandwagon I will ever jump on (I was a rugger in Uni - and we thought guys who wore pads rested more than playing were not as 'tough' as us - now ducks to not get killed by return fire).

But agree - pick your teams and stick with them through thick and thin. I really dislike the whole Redsox Nation folks who are only there for the good times.

And cannot wait to see which teams pick up the nightmares that Manny and Harper will be. Clubhouse cancers and fairly over-rated. Bring me a Dwight Evans, Derek Jeter, or Griffey over those fools.

Cardinals fan here, I'm glad your guys finally won one and against us. The Cubs, however, can stuff themselves with Oreo cookies and die.

[Macclan5]

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

I am sizeably ashamed to admit that I have started watching the Maple Leafs confident in the knowledge that they can find a way to screw up being a team of destiny. (pls don't tell anyone you caught me watching the Leafs!!)

I have specified in my Last Will and Testament - that players of the Toronto Maple Leafs should act as my Pallbearers when I pass.

I want them to 'let me down one last time - gently'

ORIGINAL: Skyros

We waited a long time and just got lucky that it all occurred together. Hopefully we will not go back to championship desert.

We mostly disagree [8D]

While there were dry periods - especially the Sox - Boston based teams always seem to be 'at the cusp'. At the cusp of winning in the playoffs. At the cusp of a playoff spot. At the cusp - winning a big upset game and a mythology surrounding the 'blue collar' work ethic of the Boston (Irish) fans.... [;)]

Celtics - Len Bias sure - ughh ...but then originated the big 3 (Kevin Garnett et al) concept with basically a bare cupboard.

Sox - double ugghhh ....

Patriots - ughhh... much do I long for the days of Tony Easton and Drew Bledsloe ! Prior to that the Pats were always that team in the AFC east that spoiled a run by the Dolphins or Jets.

Bruins.- triple ugghhhh - Orr (from Owen Sound Ontario should have been a Leaf) Raymond Bourque (Quebecer - should have been a Hab) Cam Neely (BCer - should have been a Vancouver Canuck lifer). The Bruins 'always' have those guys - the Bruins always made the playoffs - the Bruins trade away promising star players ala Joe Thorton and then 'improve' overall... ughhh

[8D]

[Macclan5]

The city of Boston - and the people I have met are in fact wonderful [:)]

Just your sports franchise's..... ughhhh

[Canoerebel]

I'm a member of a small rural church in the Ridge and Valley section of northwest Georgia. It is customary for our church to hold business meetings, on occasion, to discuss things like the budget and maintenance issues.

A few years ago, the chairman of our cemetery committee mentioned that we had six unused plots in the back that were too close to a gravel drive; that people kept driving over them.

"What should we do about those plots?" he asked.

I raised my hand. "Reserve them for the Georgia fans. We're used to getting run over."

[rustysi]

The city of Boston - and the people I have met are in fact wonderful

Eh, spent two and a half years up there, and not so sure. Other than the history didn't really care for it, but that's just me.

[fcooke]

Eh - given a choice between Boston and LI - well Boston wins :>)

The old Republic factory is now a nice little museum on LI, not sure if something similar was ever done with the Grumman Iron works. But JFK, the Hamptons, and the LIE - not for me. to each their own.

[rustysi]

The old Republic factory is now a nice little museum on LI,

Hardly. One relatively small hanger has become the LI Air Power Museum. Pretty neat though as everything they have is either flyable or being restored.

[fcooke]

Everything? While that would be way cool (And I have not been there in years) - does that include the F-105 that is outside the hanger? When I was there they had a couple of vets as guides, which is a special, but diminishing, resource.

[rustysi]

Everything?

According to them. They got a P-51 and B-26 (the fourth one off the assembly lines) that do. The B-26 never left the states. Bunch of others. They even picked up an A-10. Not flying yet though.

does that include the F-105 that is outside the hanger?

Don't know, but if I go again I'll ask.

When I was there they had a couple of vets as guides, which is a special, but diminishing, resource.

Yeah, some of the docents are still WWII vets. The one I had couldn't make the full round, but he was cool. We talked a lot. Told me I could finish on my own and said "you know as much as I do about this stuff".[:D]