Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
I have the replay for 8 Dec 1941, there are some bad things and some good things.
The bad.
CV Lexington took 2 torpedoes from an RO sub. No ammo or fuel explosions reported, so it may not sink.
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As expected, a number of ships were sunk, mostly the ones from the French base Kwangchowan. He starts with some
Vals and Mabels at Samah, so it is hard to get the transport out and some of the DDs were slowed by damage from
Dec 7 raid. I think some from Hong Kong also were sunk, again it is hard to get transports through the gauntlet.
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The British DDs did not fare well, they encounted a TF with a CA and CL with DDs. Out gunned in the daylight, they
took a beating. I think two of them were sunk and the other badly damaged. They did manage to heavily damage a DD.
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Kwangchoowan took 4 air sweeps. It appears that the French did not do well. I lost 17 and he lost 2.
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Lahina was hit again, he hit the AP Etolin. She had 21 fires from yesterdays raid, so I didn't think she would survie anyway.
She probaly went down.
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the good :
Day Time Surface Combat, near Cam Ranh Bay at 66,77, Range 18,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Kantori Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Hakubasan Maru, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
AKL Haguro Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Desaix
DD Le Casque, Shell hits 2
Japanese ground losses:
1075 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 34 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
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More good, the beasts strike from Manila:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near San Fernando at 79,73
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 8
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Inazuma, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Ikazuchi
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
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Blenheims actually hit something:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Prachuap Khiri Khan at 54,66
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAK Kyokko Maru, Bomb hits 1
Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
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I do have dive bombers at Midway:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Midway Island at 161,85
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 16
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AO Shiriya, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Ushio, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AO Shiriya
Massive explosion on DD Ushio
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Ushio
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He took Miri but was unsuccessful at Kota Bharu, getting a 1 to 1. but I did suffer extreme losses.
He did not land at any new bases.
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He hit the Airfield at Pearl Harbor, with not good results:
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 73
B5N2 Kate x 25
D3A1 Val x 47
Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 28
P-40B Warhawk x 52
F2A-3 Buffalo x 11
F4F-3 Wildcat x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed, 7 damaged
D3A1 Val: 10 destroyed, 23 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 3 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
DD Selfridge, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
I lost another DD, but downed a number of KB aircraft. Most if not all of his pilots in those aircraft should be lost.
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Everything considered, this was not a bad turn for Dec 8, 1941. The torpedoes the Lex took are concerning, but this is war, things happen.
The bad.
CV Lexington took 2 torpedoes from an RO sub. No ammo or fuel explosions reported, so it may not sink.
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As expected, a number of ships were sunk, mostly the ones from the French base Kwangchowan. He starts with some
Vals and Mabels at Samah, so it is hard to get the transport out and some of the DDs were slowed by damage from
Dec 7 raid. I think some from Hong Kong also were sunk, again it is hard to get transports through the gauntlet.
----------------
The British DDs did not fare well, they encounted a TF with a CA and CL with DDs. Out gunned in the daylight, they
took a beating. I think two of them were sunk and the other badly damaged. They did manage to heavily damage a DD.
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Kwangchoowan took 4 air sweeps. It appears that the French did not do well. I lost 17 and he lost 2.
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Lahina was hit again, he hit the AP Etolin. She had 21 fires from yesterdays raid, so I didn't think she would survie anyway.
She probaly went down.
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the good :
Day Time Surface Combat, near Cam Ranh Bay at 66,77, Range 18,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Kantori Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
xAK Hakubasan Maru, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
AKL Haguro Maru, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD Desaix
DD Le Casque, Shell hits 2
Japanese ground losses:
1075 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 34 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 9 disabled
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More good, the beasts strike from Manila:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near San Fernando at 79,73
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 8
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Inazuma, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Ikazuchi
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Vildebeest III launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
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Blenheims actually hit something:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Prachuap Khiri Khan at 54,66
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
xAK Kyokko Maru, Bomb hits 1
Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim I bombing from 6000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
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I do have dive bombers at Midway:
Morning Air attack on TF, near Midway Island at 161,85
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
SB2U-3 Vindicator x 16
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AO Shiriya, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Ushio, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2U-3 Vindicator releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AO Shiriya
Massive explosion on DD Ushio
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Ushio
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He took Miri but was unsuccessful at Kota Bharu, getting a 1 to 1. but I did suffer extreme losses.
He did not land at any new bases.
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He hit the Airfield at Pearl Harbor, with not good results:
Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 73
B5N2 Kate x 25
D3A1 Val x 47
Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 28
P-40B Warhawk x 52
F2A-3 Buffalo x 11
F4F-3 Wildcat x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed, 7 damaged
D3A1 Val: 10 destroyed, 23 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 3 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
F2A-3 Buffalo: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
DD Selfridge, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10
I lost another DD, but downed a number of KB aircraft. Most if not all of his pilots in those aircraft should be lost.
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Everything considered, this was not a bad turn for Dec 8, 1941. The torpedoes the Lex took are concerning, but this is war, things happen.
RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
ORIGINAL: Zorch
61 BB/BCs? There aren't that many US states/territories. The rulebook clearly says you can't build it if it would break the naming standard. [:D]ORIGINAL: BillBrown
I have plenty of BBs in this mod, here is a list. I get 61 BB/BCs in the game and I have lost 4 so far.
Note also that 5 of these are Iowa Build hulls that probably will be built as CVs, so I am down to only 52 BB/BCs [8D]
But not all of them are USN BB/BCs.
RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
One thing I left out above is the 5 air strikes against Manila:
Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 35
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 17000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
G4M1 Betty x 37
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 4
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Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
G4M1 Betty x 30
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AS Holland, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
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Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 15
No Japanese losses
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Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Id Oscar x 5
No Japanese losses
Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 35
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 17000 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
G4M1 Betty x 37
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 4
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Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 56 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
G4M1 Betty x 30
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AS Holland, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
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Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 15
No Japanese losses
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Afternoon Air attack on Manila , at 79,77
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Id Oscar x 5
No Japanese losses
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
Wow, that's a lot of BBs. How about a list of your CVs?
Cheers,
CB
Cheers,
CB
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
Here is the CVs I get, plus see next post


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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
I can also convert 5 Iowa BB build hulls into Iowa CVB and 6 Alaska CB build hulls into Alaska CV
One thing to note about both of these is the armor. An Essex is 100/25/100. Only a 500Kg SAP bomb will
penetrate their deck armor. And the 800Kg GP bomb will only penetrate the Iowa Deck armor.

One thing to note about both of these is the armor. An Essex is 100/25/100. Only a 500Kg SAP bomb will
penetrate their deck armor. And the 800Kg GP bomb will only penetrate the Iowa Deck armor.

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I'm sure the IJN gets their share of goodies, but that's an impressive list. Thanks for posting.
Cheers,
CB
Cheers,
CB
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
You don't get the two Midway class CVBs that appear after the historical end date in scenario 40?
They have 137 plane capacities, better than the Iowa conversions.
I played an early version of this with the Soviets active, but don't recall what the end date is.
Its March 31st, 1946 in scenario 40.
They have 137 plane capacities, better than the Iowa conversions.
I played an early version of this with the Soviets active, but don't recall what the end date is.
Its March 31st, 1946 in scenario 40.
Hans
RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
His losses on KB aircrafts are quite high so far.
You are right about the BBs, you have plenty of them.
You are right about the BBs, you have plenty of them.
RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
Actually Hans, I get 4 of them


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ORIGINAL: HansBolter
You don't get the two Midway class CVBs that appear after the historical end date in scenario 40?
They have 137 plane capacities, better than the Iowa conversions.
I played an early version of this with the Soviets active, but don't recall what the end date is.
Its March 31st, 1946 in scenario 40.
The end date is the 31st of March, 1946. Bruce might of removed the two midway class. But I don't know why. But I would rather have the 5 Iowa class CV's for the added number of planes and flexability plus the Alaska class....GP
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
It says the end date is 29 May 1946
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ORIGINAL: BillBrown
It says the end date is 29 May 1946
Then I must of checked the wrong FP scenario. I had started another one long ago that had the 31st....GP
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
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Actually Hans, I get 4 of them
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Asked and answered. I'm going back to bed....GP
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
This is not only Focus Pacific but Pocus as there are ships listed for the Pac that didn't even exist. Hitler must have invaded Russia only and got bogged down and didn't bother with the west.
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This is not only Focus Pacific but Pocus as there are ships listed for the Pac that didn't even exist. Hitler must have invaded Russia only and got bogged down and didn't bother with the west.
All sides get stuff that never existed. Somewhere there is a light back story on why the Pacific became the Focus of WWII and how and why some of the new classes came to be.
Hans
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RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
It says the end date is 29 May 1946
Hmmm, do you also get more of Bradley's Army Group than the First Army, which appears in scenario 40?
I recall some one creating a scenario that lasted till '48 with huge transfers from Europe.
Can't recall the scenario name or number, but I couldn't get to to run.
Hans
RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
It says the end date is 29 May 1946
Hmmm, do you also get more of Bradley's Army Group than the First Army, which appears in scenario 40?
I recall some one creating a scenario that lasted till '48 with huge transfers from Europe.
Can't recall the scenario name or number, but I couldn't get to to run.
the only scenario I know of that goes to 48 is Long Road to Toyko.
And, no, I do not get more than the 1st Army.
RE: Focus Pacific Scen 78 Allies
I know everyone is waiting for this, here is CV Lexington after 2 torpedoes.


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And here are the ships sunk and air losses for the turn


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