BTS Play-Testing

[John 3rd]

Nomad--I think I was being stupid yesterday (No COMMENTS from the peanut gallery!!) with the 4EB MG comments. Went thru and changed them to what you said. Those powered turrets are gonna SUCK to fight against!

[Kitakami]

Comments on IJN Flattops:

- CV Renkaku is made available on Sep 2, 1943. It enters with the 12/43 refit. Should it be the 6/42 refit?
- CV Kasigi is made available on Jan 19, 1945. It enters with the 6/44 refit. Should it be the 1/45 refit?
- CVL Chitose-class refits 1874 & 1875 have the same date, 12/43. Is that correct?
- CVL Kurama is made availabe on Jan 11, 1945. It enters with the 4/44 refit. Should it be the 10/44 refit?

[Nomad]

There are two Dutch P-40E aircraft defined. #155 and #162 They have the same stats, arrival date, etc.

**edit**

I think that #162 should be deleted.

[John 3rd]

Good Gents. Will tackle in the morning.

As to an artwork question, I do have Australian/NZ art for Buffalo and F4F.

[Nomad]

French DD class Le Hardi starts with #854 available 12/41. It then upgrades to # 859 which is available 7/43
It then is supposed to upgrade to #885 which is available in 4/42 and has less AA and worse Radar. I think
the order should be switched 854 -> 885 -> 859

[btd64]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Good Gents. Will tackle in the morning.

As to an artwork question, I do have Australian/NZ art for Buffalo and F4F.

Excellent....GP

[Kitakami]

- CM Yurijima is made available on Jan 15, 1943. It enters in the 12/41 configuration. Should it be the 1/43 refit?
- CM Nuwashima is made available on Feb 15, 1943. It enters in the 12/41 configuration. Should it be the 1/43 refit?
- DD Miojinkaze is made available on Dec 13, 1944. It enters with the 4/44 refit. Should it be the 12/44 refit?

[John 3rd]

You go on Kitakami!

[Kitakami]

- DD Akatsuki & Akatomo start the game with the 9/42 refit. Should they start in the 12/41 configuration?
- CM Kuma-class 1017 (8/42) can convert to CLAA Kuma-class 1022 (7/42). Should one of those two dates be fixed?
- CL Nagara-class 1033 (12/42) can convert to CLAA Nagara-class (10/42). Should one of those two dates be fixed?
- APD Mikekaze-class 1428 & 1431 both can convert to E Minekaze-class 1429. APD Kamikaze-class 1409 can convert to E Kamikaze-class 1408, but 1411 cannot. Should both be treated the same (meaning both converting from either 1 or 2 refits)?
- DD Tamanami is made available on Aug 30, 1942. It enters with the 10/42 refit. Should it be the 12/41 configuration?
- DD Suzunami is made available on Sep 17, 1942. It enters with the 10/42 refit. Should it be the 12/41 configuration?
- DD Hinokigumo is made available on Mar 2, 1944. It enters with the 4/44 refit. Should it be the 8/43 refit?
- DD Shimakaze is made available on Jan 1, 1943. It enters with the 4/43 configuration, which is the earliest. Should something be changed?
- DD Karakaze is made available on Feb 27, 1943. It enters with the 4/43 configuration, which is the earliest. Should something be changed?
- DD Raikaze is made available on Nov 15, 1943. It enters with the 2/44 refit. Should it be the 9/43 refit?
- DD Tarakaze is made available on Dec 5, 1943. It enters with the 2/44 refit. Should it be the 9/43 refit?
- DD Shaitokaze is made available on Aug 6, 1944. It enters with the 11/44 refit. Should it be the 2/44 refit?
- DD Malakaze is made available on Sep 19, 1944. It enters with the 11/44 refit. Should it be the 2/44 refit?

Enough for now... will pick it up later today.

[Kitakami]

- DD Odake is made available on Dec 16, 1944. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hatsuzakura is made available on Dec 29, 1944. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Kaba is made available on Dec 30, 1944. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Yaezakura is made available on Jan 16, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Tochi is made available on Jan 16, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hatsuume is made available on Jan 19, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Katsura is made available on Jan 26, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Yadake is made available on Feb 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Sakaki is made available on Feb 13, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Wakazakura is made available on Feb 16, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Azura is made available on Feb 21, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Kuzu is made available on Mar 16, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hishi is made available on Mar 26, 1945. It enters with the 6/45 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hanako is made available on May 26, 1945. It enters with the 6/45 configuration. Should it be the 8/44 refit?
- DD Hiyatori is made available on May 26, 1945. It enters with the 6/45 configuration. Should it be the 8/44 refit?
- DD Asuza is made available on May 26, 1945. It enters with the 6/45 configuration. Should it be the 8/44 refit?
- DD Mishima is made available on May 26, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Niji is made available on Jun 3, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Yoji is made available on Jun 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hideji is made available on Jun 16, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Kiku is made available on Jun 21, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Suisen is made available on Jun 21, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Aoi is made available on Jun 26, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Botan is made available on Jun 26, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Myoji is made available on Jul 1, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hiiragi is made available on Jul 1, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Matsushima is made available on Jul 6, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Marika is made available on Jul 6, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Chinen is made available on Jul 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Yuri is made available on Jul 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Ibara is made available on Jul 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Anzu is made available on Jul 16, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Himawari is made available on Jul 21, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Sendan is made available on Jul 31, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Kannan is made available on Aug 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Tade is made available on Aug 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Yomogi is made available on Aug 21, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Ashi is made available on Aug 21, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hanekimo is made available on Aug 27, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Onome is made available on Aug 29, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hanaharu is made available on Aug 29, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hideharu is made available on Sep 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Daihana is made available on Sep 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Hikeharu is made available on Sep 21, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Tenshin is made available on Oct 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Tonshin is made available on Oct 17, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Toten is made available on Oct 27, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Kosho is made available on Nov 11, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Toyohi is made available on Nov 19, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Jinyu is made available on Nov 26, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Chugoa is made available on Dec 7, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Takase is made available on Dec 16, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?
- DD Asakihare is made available on Dec 29, 1945. It enters with the 5/44 configuration. Should it be the 11/44 refit?

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: Nomad

French DD class Le Hardi starts with #854 available 12/41. It then upgrades to # 859 which is available 7/43
It then is supposed to upgrade to #885 which is available in 4/42 and has less AA and worse Radar. I think
the order should be switched 854 -> 885 -> 859

I would never have caught that!

[John 3rd]

Damn...Kitakami...I need a broom to clean all that up. THANKS!

Have time tonight to work on this so I plan to go thru everything mentioned above.

Who has ANY sort of skills on adjusting and adding plane art to the folder? It has always alluded me but I've been told it is easier now...

[ny59giants]

Need AFB to look at.....

Royal Navy and the need for more FP groups.

French and Dutch Navy having some mid to late war possible upgrades.

Dutch Air Force - If you withdraw them, they come back at Aden and can be useful. Realistically, what number of mid to late war versions could they upgrade to?? P-40K?? Need to have something to shoot down deep strikes from the Liz. Op losses on the PBY and recon planes make them useless after mid-43. What numbers would you propose?

BIG ??? - John tweaked the pilot experience levels for 43 to end for Allies up. Our thinking was the Allies should be overwhelming by late 44 to end in the air when it comes to rookie pilots coming out. Does the AI just pick pilots at random or pick those from 42 with lower experience before newer and better pilots from 44/45 when filling out existing groups? American pilot pools can be deep by 44/45.

Way OT - I only got to play with the Soviet Army for about 6 weeks in just finished PBEM, but that army is just plain nasty!!

[Nomad]

Point 1

#3170 BB King George has two FP groups which overloads her.

#3256 CL Glasgow has two FP groups

#3215 CA Dorsetshire has two FP groups

#3257 CL Newcastle has two FP groups

#3250 CL Newfoundland has no FP group

#3251 CL Nigeria has no GP group

#3245 CL Bermuda has no FP group

#3247 CL Jamaica hs no FP group

[Nomad]

The Allied pilot experience levels look fine. 1943 pilots do not graduate until 1944.
With Training Units on the map, the starting experience is not that important. They can
train 3 x size pilots at one time and they pump out pilots very quickly. I use them in my
version of the Long Road to Toyko scenario and they are great.

[btd64]

I have seen the experience of pilots in the rookie pool improve as a game goes on. But it happens slowly and usually with the brits or aussie pools. Just a little with the US pools. Like from 30 to 40 and that's it....GP

[btd64]

Change the 4 engine training units to 4 engine aircraft. B-17d or c maybe....GP

[btd64]

Addons; Oak Harbor, Tillamook and Eureka Base forces. Air Patrol units always show up but no base force. About the same size as the Astoria Base force I guess. Coosbay as well....GP

[Pharnakes]

I was waiting until this came out to look for a new pbem, I'm happy to help test first, pm me if you want me to look through it or start a test game.

[John 3rd]

PM me your email address!

You guys are finding stuff I would NEVER, EVER have looked at. Cannot keep up at the moment but hope to get everything--to a certain point--cleaned up and then send updated files out.