ORIGINAL: loki100
no, what I'm saying is that historically a number of the 6 Army formations were left in France post-refit due to increased fears of an invasion of France.
the game models that by a withdrawal to the Western Theatre. if they go intact, that is a huge gain to the axis player overall as the assets used for their historical rebuild are then available for other formations.
Those that were refitted post-Stalingrad and returned to the Soviet front are simply never removed in the game, so if you lose them somewhere its up to you to decide to refit or not.
This was always something that annoyed me about East Front games - and I mean ALL East Front games I have ever played - that units are withdrawn according to their historical schedule, but not all units were pulled back to garrison other locations, more than a few were withdrawn because they were so heavily damaged they were no longer combat viable. Some underwent refit in the process - upgrading to panzer units for example - and others were simply rebuilt before being returned to the front. In some cases they would later be returned, and in others they would be sent to another front while they underwent rest and replenishment, and another unit was sent to replace them in the Soviet Union. The obvious problem in a game is if you have a unit that isn't shot to hell but is suddenly pulled off the line you have a hole - even if you know it is coming the Germans rarely had enough units to spare to fill too many random holes - and on the other hand a unit that could do with refit is left in place.
So, if I understand what is said here, this is not completely the case here. If a unit was pulled historically and ended up being sent to another front, that still happens even if the reason they were historically withdrawn was because they were shot up, but they still ended up in garrison somewhere else so that is still performed, but as you point out, if a healthy unit is withdrawn it ends up boosting the garrison in the other theatre more than was done historically, which has other benefits. On the other hand units that were only withdrawn for refit and then returned are not actually withdrawn in WitE2, it is up to the player to pull back damaged units for refit, correct?
What about upgrades, if a unit was upgraded (Großdeutschland for example was upgraded several times) are they still withdrawn for that, or is that also handled in theatre? So for example if its not a good time you can delay the upgrade until later?
Thanks.
