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Thank you so much platoonist for that. Found that button
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I think the crux of lot of the issues you are having with your carriers my friend is that you are trying to conduct high tempo carrier warfare operations out of a dinky, dusty outback port. Darwin would need to be about size 5 or 6 to properly support what you are doing. That would require a lot of engineers and months of time. This game really tends to punish poor logistical arrangements.
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There is an option within the the minelaying mission menu to lay mines or not lay mines. The default is to not lay mines so you have to change it or your mine laying task force will just sail to it's destination and back without dropping any mines.
And also be warned that if your en-route minelaying TF is interrupted for any reason (simply crossing paths with an enemy xAK will do it), it will retire to home port ... and lay its mines there! Always monitor what is happening with minelayers!
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Another one I can't figure out. Sub minelaying missions out of pearl harbor. The subs won't load mines. Shouldn't pearl harbor have a large enough port to have mines?
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Mines are loaded from a global pool and not from a specific port.
Go to your intelligence screen -> Industry/Troops/Resource Pool and set the filter to mines there.

edit: The port size is of course important to actually load mines in the first place, but the mines them self are drawn from the global pool.
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Maallon,

Got it sir, thank you.....actually a great idea as so I can't spam mines.

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Next question isn't actually about the game, but wondering if something for the game exists....Google was not my friend.....Is there a user made map out there that shows the convoy routes used in the game? Something like that would be a huge help in setting up submarine patrols....

My game is going great and I am having such a good time after all the years. The way the ship losses are going I think the winning side will have a surfboard and 2 canoes at the end. Monstrous battles going on...The Japanese did a huge invasion of Canton Island.....I happened to have a 2 BB force heading to Espiritu Santo (my main base I am building up in the Solomon's area) so I sent them to intercept the forces....A cruiser force was escorting the invasion...or so I thought (laughing) Somehow I had a naval fight against a 39 ship convoy....I thought the size limit was 25 ships? Well my BB force sank 7 of them, then the CA force came in, battle was pretty weak for both sides, then my BB force hit the huge convoy again sinking 8 more....this was the night phase btw....ship movement and air phase came and then the IJN carriers that I didn't see attacked....Lost a BB immediately, second one crippled and is in Canton Island....and the invasion force landed...but my carrier (only the Yorktown) was east of Canton and devastated more of the invasion force just out of reach of the Japanese cv's which moved a bit west. The invasion force was retreated a hex due to the survivors of my BB force (3 DMS's). I can't lose Canton as it is right in the middle of the convoy route to Aussieland. I am already loading a counter invasion force in Pearl Harbor to get underway to either A) try and retake Canton, or B) put a lot of reinforcements in. On the other front (DEI) I am doing well, but the bleeding is starting to affect operations....surface combat ships are getting hard to come by with all the action in the area around Batavia. On the plus side my 2 CV TF is operating in the area and is really helping now. China is holding its own. I have actually cut the map taking Hanoi and Haiphong.

It would be nice if we could increase shipyard sizes like airfields and ports....Still frustrating as hell seeing all my air squadron's just sitting in the states with the (S) which seems to mean "you can't touch them" (laughing). Do those squadron's randomly become available for Political point use? Or is it hard scheduled? I am learning to love Minesweeper's around Rangoon. They are keeping Pegu and Moulmein open for my bombardment forces to hit...And the Japanese know that obviously as they send air raids in targeting those TF's

Having an outstanding time. The AI is playing a great game....Causing me fits often with those 1 or 2 DD raids that slip through my lines and hit convoy's, a transport convoy in Noumea being the last victim. They hit and disappear as I don't have a lot of search going behind the "front lines" I will have to start transporting the Kingfishers I have from the states to bases I am using as hubs to keep an eye out for those small raiding forces..And I need to stop being greedy using Catalina's as attack planes and get them with higher search percentages.

I want to thank everyone for the help that they are giving me. I greatly appreciate the time you are giving.

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The convoy routes change based on the threats perceived.

Those static groups are useful. Use them to defend Conus and to train pilots. Some will withdraw and return, maybe more than once. They may come back and be available to be bought out.
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RangerJoe,

Thank you for the reply Sir. So from what you are saying the IJN can use every hex for their convoy's....I am so glad that there is the "patrol" feature.....that is making sub missions much much more manageable....I have most of my Dutch and S boats in the DEI and Solomon's area and the US fleet boats around Japan and they are doing very well for me. Haven't lost one in a couple weeks also.

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You are welcome.
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From what I was reading that Rangoon is important for supplying China but you have to have a clear path for that to happen....I finally beat the IJA out of Rangoon and now we are fighting over Pegu.....So hopefully after I clear them from Pegu, the supplies can flow to China.

My one AE I have in the theater is in Tulagi supplying 3 surface combat/bombardment TF's that are rotating to Shortlands every day. The AE is the most valuable ship I have in the theater in my opinion. And according to my availability listing, won't be getting another one for awhile. Up to 6 carriers now with 2 British which are supporting Rangoon and 4 American, 2 of which are in the DEI and 1 in the Marshalls area and 1 supporting Canton/Pearl/Midway area. Have built up Rennel and Tulagi and have about 200 planes there now. It is the end of April of 42 and I am landing engineers to start building Guadacanal for another base to hit the Japanese. Sure am looking forward to the "Sleeping Bear" waking up and making me planes for replacements (laughing).

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Look for the C2 cargo ships that can convert to AEs. My suggestion is to covert every one of them to AEs. The Ruth Alexander is one that I can remember without opening the game. In the standard game with no cargo mods, they carry 5400 tons of regular cargo, 200 fuel, and move at a speed of 16.

There are also ships that can covert to AKEs, they are also useful for the CAs, CLs, as well as the BBs with smaller guns. These can also resupply carriers with sorties.
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Just got my brother War in the Pacific AE for Christmas as he is a huge wargamer also.....We normally play Hearts of Iron 4 together and Squad Leader is our main war game.....Retired like me I am sure he is going to be throwing hours away into the game soon.

My game is going good. Batavia/Balikpapin is the "front line" for me. Took back Canton Island, Took back Koepong. Beat them at Batavia twice. Rangoon is mine and I have the upper hand in Pegu which if I am not wrong is what I need to start getting bigger supply numbers into China. China is basically a stalemate but I think I have the upper hand as I took Hanoi and Haiphong cutting there lines in half along the coast. Most of my BB's are getting repaired though after lots of surface fights. Still have my 6 carriers but my DEI air combat force is lacking planes. Hoping for faster replacements.

Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions....Everything is going smoothly as my understanding has greatly improved....

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Just got my brother War in the Pacific AE for Christmas as he is a huge wargamer also.....We normally play Hearts of Iron 4 together and Squad Leader is our main war game.....Retired like me I am sure he is going to be throwing hours away into the game soon.

My game is going good. Batavia/Balikpapin is the "front line" for me. Took back Canton Island, Took back Koepong. Beat them at Batavia twice. Rangoon is mine and I have the upper hand in Pegu which if I am not wrong is what I need to start getting bigger supply numbers into China. China is basically a stalemate but I think I have the upper hand as I took Hanoi and Haiphong cutting there lines in half along the coast. Most of my BB's are getting repaired though after lots of surface fights. Still have my 6 carriers but my DEI air combat force is lacking planes. Hoping for faster replacements.

Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions....Everything is going smoothly as my understanding has greatly improved....

Scott in the Philippines

The Burma Road is explained on page 254 of the manual.

You don't need Pegu, there are other ways to get from Rangoon (origin) to Tsuyung (appearance point). The reference in the manual to Ledo as an origin won't apply unless you are using a map mod which includes the Ledo Road.

There are two references in the patch read me document as well - load it into your word-processor and tell it to find "Burma".
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Just got my brother War in the Pacific AE for Christmas as he is a huge wargamer also.....We normally play Hearts of Iron 4 together and Squad Leader is our main war game.....Retired like me I am sure he is going to be throwing hours away into the game soon.

My game is going good. Batavia/Balikpapin is the "front line" for me. Took back Canton Island, Took back Koepong. Beat them at Batavia twice. Rangoon is mine and I have the upper hand in Pegu which if I am not wrong is what I need to start getting bigger supply numbers into China. China is basically a stalemate but I think I have the upper hand as I took Hanoi and Haiphong cutting there lines in half along the coast. Most of my BB's are getting repaired though after lots of surface fights. Still have my 6 carriers but my DEI air combat force is lacking planes. Hoping for faster replacements.

Thank you to everyone who has answered my questions....Everything is going smoothly as my understanding has greatly improved....

Scott in the Philippines

The Burma Road is explained on page 254 of the manual.

You don't need Pegu, there are other ways to get from Rangoon (origin) to Tsuyung (appearance point). The reference in the manual to Ledo as an origin won't apply unless you are using a map mod which includes the Ledo Road.

There are two references in the patch read me document as well - load it into your word-processor and tell it to find "Burma".
Even when you use a mod with a road from Ledo to Myitkyina (or wherever), my understanding is that the extra 500 supply per day is hard wired to be granted only if the path is from Rangoon to Tsuyung. Of course normal supply flow will take advantage of any new transportation route in the map data.
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Even when you use a mod with a road from Ledo to Myitkyina (or wherever), my understanding is that the extra 500 supply per day is hard wired to be granted only if the path is from Rangoon to Tsuyung. Of course normal supply flow will take advantage of any new transportation route in the map data.

You may be right, but that is not exactly what Blackhorse said - although not necessarily inconsistent with it either - here:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2896243
"To Tsuyung from Rangoon -- if there is a clear road/rail path, Tsuyung gets an extra 500 supplies/day.

Page 254 in the manual. The manual (wrongly) states that you can create a path between Ledo and Tsuyung. But there is no road from Ledo to China, so no 'free' supply."




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Thanks for the answers guys, checked the city Tsuyung and it says "Burma Road is open" so hopefully more supplies will get to China....and I clicked the "yes" in supplies for a few bases to see if that helps also. I could be doing great in China if I had the supplies. Holding my own though, and I have surrounded the city of Kukong so will eliminate that Japanese pocket soon. Japanese have another 2 carrier force that rushed Canton Island and hit a couple supply convoys hard...I have the Yorktown in Pearl Harbor but it and her escorts are repairing SYS damage so they can't intervene. Need another carrier to give them a chance anyways....I think the Wasp is out in 50 days. Indomintable took a torpedo near Rangoon so she is heading to Colombo to repair. but the Illustrious is coming onto the map now so will still have carrier coverage in the Rangoon front in a week. Drove the Japanese out of Pegu quickly so now I am debating to drive on Moulimein which would be a base to hit Bangkok with my bombers. I am running fuel from the DEI to Perth. Moving oil from Balikpapin to Surabaya to the refinery.

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You can move fuel in xAKs unless there is an HR against it but if there is not enough fuel to load the tankers, send any extra oil to Australia to keep those refineries working.
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500 per day is nothing.

The road being open isn't about the freebie, but rather about how much supply YOU can ship into Rangoon.

If you want supply to flow to China, you need to ship enough into Rangoon to both satisfy the needs of the British Army in the vicinity and create a sufficient overage for it to be pulled elsewhere.

That requires a concerted effort with a considerable commitment of xAKs, escorts and air cover.

There may not be sufficient supply to meet this need in India and Colombo. The supply runs to Rangoon may have to originate off board.

Lots to plan and set up......
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Hey, Scott!!
Thank you for starting this thread. I am also one returning to game play (after retirement from Ministry) and need some of the same information. I haven't been fully able to return for some time, but have tried (unsuccessfully) to play intermittently. Even trying those attempts succumbed to the time demand. So this feels like starting all over again all over again (EGAD!) GRAZI!
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