Ground Attack during winter

[RedJohn]

You say you are using default settings. Clearly RedJohn isn't, he's maxxing out the GA requirement with 200 attacking planes required and probably as many escorts. Even with a successful intercept, you're going to take some hits. Your ground units are out in the open, no cover, and 100kg bombs are raining down everywhere. That explains the loss thing. Your ground units can't get enough supplies out there to build a basic fort level 1 because their priorities are needing supplies like food and ammo.

I only use default settings. The only settings I bother to change at this point are altitude for recon (setting it to the absolute max) and AS directives (also setting it to the max my planes can fly at).



As far as I'm aware this is the default GA directive, and it's the one I go with. I don't change days or strike numbers or altitude. I've done some altitude adjustments in past games, but too low and my bombers got obliterated by AA, and too high I died to OP losses (if I recall correctly) and did little damage.




I really desperately try to avoid air micro, I fucking despise it and everytime I fiddle with things I get genuinely upset at the results - often seeming backwards and nonsensical to me, and requiring a PhD in mathematics to decipher. So I just leave things to default.

[M60A3TTS]

I stand corrected. Not the first time.

How many planes have you lost so far?

[RedJohn]

I stand corrected. Not the first time.

How many planes have you lost so far?

18000 and counting! My approach might deal more damage when it works, but as far as preserving pilots or airplanes - dreadfully inefficient.

[Joel Billings]

Good to see a Soviet player approaching (or exceeding) historical aircraft losses in 1941 (21k). How many of your losses have been from op losses (historically 50%)? Of course you have to add in losses in the TBs to get the full total.

[RedJohn]

Good to see a Soviet player approaching (or exceeding) historical aircraft losses in 1941 (21k). How many of your losses have been from op losses (historically 50%)? Of course you have to add in losses in the TBs to get the full total.

Of the 18946 planes lost, 2186 were OP losses.

TB losses are 234, 187, 666 and 895 aircraft for FE/TR/NF/SR respectively, putting me around 20928 aircraft lost by turn 23.

11905 were lost in A2A combat, the vast majority of my losses.

[Joel Billings]

Thanks for the info. That's some high losses. I guess so many are being lost in combat there's few to lose to op losses. You're the first report of higher than historical Soviet 1941 losses that I have seen, but then you are getting some good use out of the VVS.

[ImperatorAugustus]

I only use default settings. The only settings I bother to change at this point are altitude for recon (setting it to the absolute max) and AS directives (also setting it to the max my planes can fly at).

You absolutely do not want to fly at max altitude. Your pilots get their skill reduced by 33-50% which means increased losses of all forms and instant death in any A2A.

I assume this is something to do with hypoxia, if not to represent aircraft limitations. I have not tested if its a certain height or relevant to the aircraft.

Also I'm fairly certain AS height advantage either doesn't work or means absolutely nothing in real game terms because pilot skill, aircraft parameters, and RNG absolutely overshadow this. I was unable to get any indication there is a clear advantage in controlled tests.