SM-6 versus DF-21

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DWReese
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

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The problem is, for many of us the SM-3 doe exactly what my picture shows, it flies right on by without engaging.

I'm not blaming you, but the picture that I sent is consistent with what many have been saying, and that is the opposite of what you have been saying.

The picture should be worth sure a thousand words to the devs. I'm sure that they would like to know WHY we have so many varied results. That's the issue. It shouldn't work sometimes and not others.

In mine, nothing hit, nothing engaged, the whole group of SM-3s just flew right on by. That's what is so puzzling.
thewood1
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

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Did you shut off the SBX and turn on the DDG radar?
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

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I just saw your earlier message about turning off the SBX. It was sort of hidden on top of a picture which I overlooked. Why would it need to be turned off? Is that a problem? Is it a bug? I generally have the SBX around for most of my tests. Could that be the problem? What is so critical about the SBX?

FYI, I have run it 5 times now as it came out of the box (SBX included), and with no changes, and the SM-3s have NEVER hit anything. Hopefully, the absence of the SBX will have some effect.

I'll try the scenario again, this time without the SBX.

Thanks for the input.
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

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thewood1,

Removing the SBX allowed about half of the SM-3s to be able to engage. This has not happened before. Slightly more than 50 percent of those engagements resulted in kills, so that works.

The other SM-3s seemed to wander around with nothing to shoot at, but we'll leave that for another day.

The engagements were good to see, and it begs the question, why would the elimination of the SBX have anything to do with the SM-3s being able to be fired?

(Note: I often use the Howard LORENZEN for scenarios like this as well. The SM-s doesn't fire there either. Perhaps the LORENZEN works the same way that the SBX does, and somehow restricts the SM-3s from engaging.)

I get lots of repeating messages about various missiles being LOCKED ON. I wonder if this is some kind of error as well.
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

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I just tried another of my scenarios which had the Howard LORENZEN as the main radar unit. With the LORENZEN the SM-3s failed to hit anything. By replacing the LORENZEN with ground-based radar the scenario worked perfectly.

Obviously, the SBX and he LORENZEN are causing some issues with the SM-3's effectiveness. Hopefully, someone of importance will see this.
caelunshun
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

Post by caelunshun »

Yes. "It works without SBX" does not mean there is not a bug.
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

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Yes. "It works without SBX" does not mean there is not a bug.

You are correct. There is a bug. But, what I have been trying to do is isolate it. I was trying to find the bug for the devs so that they could fix it. It has been this way since they implemented the red crosshairs. Since it came around that time I figured that that had something to do with the bug. Who would have thought that by having the SBX or the LORENZEN present that it would keep something else from working.

Yes, the bug needs to be fixed, but now we have seen why it works for some and not for others. Since I tried it and it worked, then I have to believe that here is something to the SBX and LORENZEN theory, at least at this point. Perhaps there are others as well.
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Re: SM-6 versus DF-21

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Read my last post in the "other" thread.
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