ORIGINAL: JallaTryne
ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager
ORIGINAL: JallaTryne
I get the feeling that in order to justify any critism of the allied, the Axix powers must be 'clean' on that matter. Why cannot I argue that "ruthless morons" were on both sides, without having to read about the well known horrible things the germans did? I must take it that you as well think the Dresden incident was nothing more than just another military operation.
JT
Dont start what you cant finish. Fascism started the war and Democracy and Communism ended it. Thank god the people of today wernt around back then. They would of wrung their collective hands and tried to negotiate a peace with the monsters that were present in Japan and Germany. Instead they did what had to be done and crushed both nations ruthlessly. I for one am glad they did. Both nations havnt had the stomach for war for 6 entire decades, in fact they are now among the most ardont pacifist. Perhaps if we brought about unconditional surrender yet again wars would not come about as frequently as they do.
What our good friends the revisionest historians neglect to tell us is just how effective firebombing was.
The industry of the Ruhr was deeply impacted when large sections of the cities that held them were burnt to the ground.
Krupp works was never running at full capacity from 1942 onwards because it was constantly being hit from bombs and fire damage.
Not to mention that anyone that was being killed at night wasnt showing up to make artillary shells or tanks the next day at work.
I also dont like this talk about 'innocent' Germans and Japanese. They brought their goverments to power and were extremly happy people as long as they were winning. The bombings of Shanghei, Nanking, Rotterdam, Warsaw, Leningrad and London just made them grin ear to ear in pride. But when things started to turn against them their anchestors cried foul. I say to that tough cookies.
An earlier poster summed it up best, they reaped what they sowed.
It was a question if they really needed to do these things in order to win the war. And they were not. You make it sound bad that some consider sparing life a good thing. That pretty much narrows you down for me [:)]
You indicate that atrocities is the way to go to avoid future wars. You are a representative for the by far most agressive country in modern times, a country that vage war based on any reason whatever. Are you suggesting that the peace loving countries that is being fed up with this, join forces with the unlucky victims, and put a firestorm in all major US cities, thus 'teaching' you to become peaceful?
If I claim Dresden was a war crime, I of course really mean that the germans were angels, and Japan only misunderstood. That goes without saying, but being as thorough as you are, you help me by pointing this out. Thanks! [;)]
JT
Thank god people like you wernt around back then. We never would of won that war.
You told me all I needed to know it that post.
This topic never goes anywhere. I wont be posting in this thread anymore.
