Non- wargames you play and why
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
As close to war as you ever want to get: Link: Operation Flashpoint
Tanks, Choppers, Planes and/or many grunts - all together on big (~100sq. km) maps. Probably the only game out there, that deserves the label 'Tactical Battlefield Simulation'. Especially when you add some amazing community designed addons, e.g. neural network based Artillery assets (CoC UA), platoon and higher level command interface (CoC CE), or just a lot of new vehicles and equipment. Not as fast-paced as your average First-Person-Shooter, but it often enough ends before you even know that an enemy is around [:'(]
Okay, you can get a step closer: Link: VBS1 - Simulator based on the game above, designed for the USMC and Australian Army. If you ever plan to train you Michigan Milicia properly, this is the way to go. However, it is not a game anymore and that fact is also reflected by its price tag... [X(]
Tanks, Choppers, Planes and/or many grunts - all together on big (~100sq. km) maps. Probably the only game out there, that deserves the label 'Tactical Battlefield Simulation'. Especially when you add some amazing community designed addons, e.g. neural network based Artillery assets (CoC UA), platoon and higher level command interface (CoC CE), or just a lot of new vehicles and equipment. Not as fast-paced as your average First-Person-Shooter, but it often enough ends before you even know that an enemy is around [:'(]
Okay, you can get a step closer: Link: VBS1 - Simulator based on the game above, designed for the USMC and Australian Army. If you ever plan to train you Michigan Milicia properly, this is the way to go. However, it is not a game anymore and that fact is also reflected by its price tag... [X(]
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
I haven't even booted up another game since I installed WitP on my HD. This despite the fact that I have obtained Steel Panthers MBT 3.01, Harpoon 2002 Western Pacific DB AND Baseball Mogul 2005 around the same time! Seriously, when I play other games (which is never lately, as I mentioned) I play games such as Stronghold Crusader, Railroad Tycoon II (I had RT3 and sold that dog), Baseball Mogul 2004/5. I also sometimes boot up old board games on Aide de Camp 2 and play them, although I haven't had the urge in a while. I am looking forward to the update for Steel Panthers MBT, once I get some extra time, I plan on installing that and putting some time in on that program. Unlike alot of people, I have found my problem isn't needing a hobby, but needing time for ALL the hobbies I enjoy! Besides gaming, I enjoy model building (armor/aircraft), collecting music CDs, travelling and camping. Now if I could only find a way to fit all those in along with work and my wife, I'd be in heaven! [:D] [:D] [:D]
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
Sports games, mostly Madden Football.
RE: Non- wargames you play and why
ORIGINAL: ZOOMIE1980
Sports games, mostly Madden Football.
And again - call that a sport? They wear helmets! Any one see Martin Johnson wearing a helmet!? But then again anyone see MJ doing a Calvin Kline commercial like some poster boy halfback, quarterwit or whatever they are called ? Noooo..
Nobody mentioned Europa Universalis? Big game, more nuances than you think.
(Did I mention to any Aussies listening that I got married on RUGBY WORLD CUP DAY! Hard to know which was better experience)

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Well right now I am only playing WitP. How can you have the time for anything else? 
Outside wargames I am, or was, a big Quake player (Quake 2 & 3 specifically). I would be still if I could get broadband where I live. It seems that wargamers as a bunch tend to frown on FPSes and indeed I cringe too when I see them referred to as wargames. They aren't, it's just about running around shooting people, which I personally find rather fun! You just have to ignore the hordes of idiot teenagers, there are enough decent players about to compensate.
P.S. I am approaching 40, the oldest "Quaker" I ever met was 56.
Outside wargames I am, or was, a big Quake player (Quake 2 & 3 specifically). I would be still if I could get broadband where I live. It seems that wargamers as a bunch tend to frown on FPSes and indeed I cringe too when I see them referred to as wargames. They aren't, it's just about running around shooting people, which I personally find rather fun! You just have to ignore the hordes of idiot teenagers, there are enough decent players about to compensate.
P.S. I am approaching 40, the oldest "Quaker" I ever met was 56.
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ORIGINAL: strawbuk
(Did I mention to any Aussies listening that I got married on RUGBY WORLD CUP DAY! Hard to know which was better experience)
Well everybody knows that your team won because it was raining during the semi-finale..[:D]
I was expatriate in Rotterdam during the worldcup, and we were two 'aliens' in the office. A french, your humble servitor, and one of your fellow countrymen, both passionate for this game... Real good time other there (if you except the dog, uuuh.. I mean the dutch food).
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
Ghost Recon (all of them) whenever I need stress relief
Fallout 1 & 2 when I need some stress relief plus comedy
Mechwarrior (all of them) for just blow it up fun
MechCommander 1 & 2 same as above
Fallout 1 & 2 when I need some stress relief plus comedy
Mechwarrior (all of them) for just blow it up fun
MechCommander 1 & 2 same as above
RE: Non- wargames you play and why
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag
Only thing I really detest is *sports* games [:D]
Ack! Heresy! Only games I play besides hardcore grognard wargames is Championship Manager 4 (soccer) and the latest iteration of Madden. It's all strategy, you know. COME AND JOIN THE DARK SIDE, FRAG! [8D]
Ed. - But you must NEVER play any sports games on the action mode, only on the General Manager/Coach mode. (Thank you for your support ... )
Ed.Ed. - Oh, dear. I just looked up the thread and realized that I have something in common with my personal philosophical nemesis, Zoomie. Now the only honorable way out is seppuku. Farewell, cruel world ...
RE: Non- wargames you play and why
ORIGINAL: ElvisDaKing
ORIGINAL: strawbuk
(Did I mention to any Aussies listening that I got married on RUGBY WORLD CUP DAY! Hard to know which was better experience)
Well everybody knows that your team won because it was raining during the semi-finale..[:D]
Allez le bleu (NOT)! was also at Paris for first world cup when we beat you in That quarter final.... Me and to mates in french end two rows from the Dax(?) band.

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Believe it or not, I'm still hooked on Tropico as a time killer when my brain needs a break.
Ron,
I enjoyed Tropico as well, it is a challenging game. I wasn't as thrilled with the Pirates version (Tropico II), but it seemed to sell well. Tropico was done by PopTop, the same people that did Railroad Tycoon 2 and I found I throughly enjoyed both.
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
Might as well add my .02...
Lets see...
Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries (fantastic game)
Call of Duty
MOO3
Knights of the Old Republic
Neverwinter Nights
Diablo 2 (used to be a die-hard)
BattleField 1942
Port Royale (surprisingly good game)
FreeLancer
Temple of Elemental Evil (Great RPG based on a classic D&D module)
Medal of Honor
Madden 2K4 (anxiously waiting 2K5 for PC)
There's others, but these have been the mainstays for a long while now. [8D]
Lets see...
Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries (fantastic game)
Call of Duty
MOO3
Knights of the Old Republic
Neverwinter Nights
Diablo 2 (used to be a die-hard)
BattleField 1942
Port Royale (surprisingly good game)
FreeLancer
Temple of Elemental Evil (Great RPG based on a classic D&D module)
Medal of Honor
Madden 2K4 (anxiously waiting 2K5 for PC)
There's others, but these have been the mainstays for a long while now. [8D]

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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag
Only thing I really detest is *sports* games [:D]
Sounds like you were the scrawny runt at school growing up. [;)]
Non-wargames? Is there such at thing? I will play Madden football during football season. They've finally got the graphics and AI to a point where I can enjoy it. I will on occasion go through an Icewind Dale or Total War phase. Other than that, though, it's strictly wargames, man!

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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
2Stepper. Did you ever put a friend in a jeep and drive fast down and thru winding roads and "Jump" out and let him bite it(hehehehe). Did that too my brother. In Battlefield 42[:D]
"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
FYI, Superpower 2 will be released October 6th!!!!
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
ORIGINAL: MadmanRick
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You can sing that. What a disappointment after RR Tycoon 2.
RE: Non- wargames you play and why
I also do table top gaming with miniatures. Exclusivly Games Workshop. Just downloaded Warhammer 40,000 Dawn of War. All I can say is WOW. Now if only they would make it turn base.
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ORIGINAL: kew
FYI, Superpower 2 will be released October 6th!!!!
The first one was bad enough to keep me away from anything like that again.[:@]
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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
DOOM3 and Casino shuffle master.
I wish matrix would come up with a civil war game on the scale of WITP....
I wish matrix would come up with a civil war game on the scale of WITP....
The essence of military genius is to bring under
consideration all of the tendencies of the mind
and soul in combination towards the business of
war..... Karl von Clausewitz
consideration all of the tendencies of the mind
and soul in combination towards the business of
war..... Karl von Clausewitz
RE: Non- wargames you play and why
Star Wars Galaxies
Battlefield 1942
Civ III PTW and Conquest
Diablo 2
and I agree Matrix could do a company or squad level civil war game the whole war that would be killer.

Battlefield 1942
Civ III PTW and Conquest
Diablo 2
and I agree Matrix could do a company or squad level civil war game the whole war that would be killer.

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RE: Non- wargames you play and why
ORIGINAL: Titanwarrior89
2Stepper. Did you ever put a friend in a jeep and drive fast down and thru winding roads and "Jump" out and let him bite it(hehehehe). Did that too my brother. In Battlefield 42[:D]
You kiddin?!? That was one of my favorite tactics in the game. Kamikaze jeeps. Don't think it was representative but if you timed it right, a jeep could take out a tank. LOL!! [:D]

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