The use of abreviations :)

[panda124c]

Originally posted by RichardTheFirst:


PBEM means "Play By E-Mail", Jony. And BTW (by the way) welcome to the Fans (read your message).

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Oh joy and acronyms within an acronyms. Actually PBEM stands for "Play By Electronic Mail".
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[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

Here is a funny variation on the subject.

I have in many cases found it most pleasing when heaping my displeasure on my target, to intentionally and deliberately totally refrained from uttering even so much as a single common swear word such that I in most cases completely confound and doubly insult the person by providing them with the annoyance of having been insulted in a way that they were not even able to completely understand (run on sentence intentional hehe).

I call it revenge of the intellectuals. I could say the favourite F word phrase, but I so much prefer to inform them that I would much rather enjoy them performing an anatomically impossible act upon themselves. Well actually I normally get a lot more creative than that heeh.

Abbreviations I think, (where language barrier is not a point of defense for a native speaker) are more for the intellectually challenged (I believe the laymans term would be "stupid").

[pax27]

I set of a fire here.
Well, we are all entitled to an opinion, and that´s great.
To be honest with you richmonder, I think that there are few countries in the world that takes the same pride in their nation than Americans. And why not, I´m not objecting to that, it´s just a little hard sometimes to get your voice heard when you come from a proud population of 9 million. What´s that, Manhattans population at the most. But I think we´ve sorted things out now, and no respect is lost richmonder.
Obviously I´ll have to respond to fat slobs "attacks".

Hypocrite!
You are the one that turned it political when you said: "It's bad enough when Americans use abbreviations..."

So is using abbreviations worse than being a hypocrite to a Swede?

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I really thought that I was making a joke here. I was beeing ironical to the importance of this enormous problem with abbreviations. This was just one of those threads were I could write away a little, getting a little to the side of WW2 for a moment.
And seriosly, if you choked this much on my post, trying to kick me in the nuts with that last question, grow up! I Was Making An Innocent Ironical Little Friggin Comment For The Sake Of All Things Holy!!! (or IWMAIILFCFTSOATH to the Abbrevasionists)

It's not possible that it has anything to do with having a sensitive ego, since I happen to be Canadian and not American.
But using acronyms has nothing at all to do with being American as you and others have insinuated.
It has everything to do with the Internet which happens to be frequented by a lot of English speakers which includes America, England, Australia, Canada...well, you get the idea.

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OK, I give up. No man, woman or child uses any abbreviations/acronyms more than any other. Now we now, good for us, peace on earth!

[ January 01, 2002: Message edited by: pax27 ]</p>

[pax27]

a few helpfull links to us folks that can have trouble with abbreviations
The WorldWideWeb Acronym and Abbreviation Server
THE CANONICAL ABBREVIATION/ACRONYM LIST
Abbreviations and Character Codes
Acronym & Abbreviation Meanings -- Business & Technical
pi's Yet Another List of Bloody Acronyms

[Tomanbeg]

Originally posted by Les the Sarge 9-1:
Here is a funny variation on the subject.

I have in many cases found it most pleasing when heaping my displeasure on my target, to intentionally and deliberately totally refrained from uttering even so much as a single common swear word such that I in most cases completely confound and doubly insult the person by providing them with the annoyance of having been insulted in a way that they were not even able to completely understand (run on sentence intentional hehe).

I call it revenge of the intellectuals. I could say the favourite F word phrase, but I so much prefer to inform them that I would much rather enjoy them performing an anatomically impossible act upon themselves. Well actually I normally get a lot more creative than that heeh.

Abbreviations I think, (where language barrier is not a point of defense for a native speaker) are more for the intellectually challenged (I believe the laymans term would be "stupid").

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Pretty good Les. My best was while driving a cab in St. Pete florida. I was headed for the same hole is traffic as some guy in a shiny new Jag. I beat him there(horsepoewer edge, plus one more dent in the old dodge would not have been noticed, which was not the case for his pretty new Jag). He was a sore loser, and showed me which of his fingers was the longest while suggesting I had carnal knowledge of my direct ancestor from the maternal side of my family tree(not the words he used). Not to be outdone by some effete snob in a Jag, I wished him a nice day and expressed my hope that he would 'have a heart attack and die while performing mutual anal sex with his brother.' My fare enjoyed this immensly, giving me $50 for a $16 dollar ride and saying keep the change. 'Course first I had to help get his fingers out of the back of the front seat, but that is life in the tropics.
T.

[RichardTheFirst]

I read these last posts with delight after this "almost out of net days" where I felt really old as never before. Just turned 40. But I guess this will pass eventually <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> .

So if you excuse my status after being drinking all the time since last year, I would like to address you all (feeling expansive here now):

Pax: you are in my mood, man (btw (by the way) did u (YOU) just turned forty 2 (too)? <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> ) Will try to have a look at those pages ASAP (as soon as possible).

Les: always found you very difficult to follow, sorry to be so frank, but that 1st paragraph superseded all <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> . Then I read the rest and understood your point <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> . My point is, always was, and always will be: why abbreviations that are supposed to make things simpler are used to make it more complicated?, why talk fancy?, why b**s**t all the time?. You gave me an answer but in my opinion that could be applied legitimately (and with the discount of humour) only once or twice. Not good if you make a life style out of it. I understand we should use the full resources of our (yours) languages fully but maybe not in an international community.

Capt Pixel: I'm glad you understood. Happened that your post was a good example for what I wanted to say. But I really liked and agree with what you said. And by the way I think the abbreviations are everywhere, just recently I received an ELECTRONIC (thanks PBear) Mail from a SPWAW Portuguese fan that is probably even worst than most of the things I've seen here.

richmonder: Man, I really appreciate you. Full of goodwill yet very defensive when someone is attacking America. Just kidding, man. I did like your posts.

fat slob: Man, you do like to pick up fights. Want to come here? I need someone to practise my karate and alleviate my stress... Why does a Canadian need to initiate the American bashing theme? <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> Just teasing you, I would love to challenge you for a nice game of squash, nothing is better for the stress.

Final message (this is going long enough, thanks for understanding my mood):

LET'S BE REALISTIC. THIS IS A TRULY INTERNATIONAL SITE. ENGLISH IS OUR MEAN OF COMMUNICATION. ASK YOURSELF JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION: DO YOU REALLY WANT TO COMMUNICATE?

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[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

Just to make things clear (clarity is always what it is).

I hate abrviations because I havent got time to waste learning them (I find it easy enough to just use the real word actually) Every word I use is on average easily found in an average english dictionary.

To my foreign origins friends, best way to learn english is from someone actually using it I guess.

Apologies if I sometimes post messages that tax your english capacity. The words are easier to manage though, while trying to learn them with more than just the first letters of a string of words.

I by the way try to refrain from specifically targeting posters by name. It only leads to hurt feelings. Feelings you say? Yep, havent met a person yet in my life that doesnt get indignant when they are in anyway "corrected".

To insert a 7.0 relevant snippet. Currently playing a reeeeeally cool Wild Bill Scenario. Thing has a reeeeally large map eh, thought the reinforcement Shermans would never stop showing up too.
Having a ball playing it guys. Have I noticed any errors.....hmmm to busy having fun to care a whit....and thats what is missing I think with to many posters eh.
I have been getting Shermans blasted yes, but I have slagged Panthers and Tigers alike with fairly humble means too. Just loved it when the air cover showed up in the nick of time to waste two King Tigers at the start of the battle.

Bet any of the accuracy mongers havent enjoyed playing Steel Panthers half as much as me eh.
I am of the opinion, that I can take an inaccurately portrayed tank with an inaccurately portrayed gun both that are less than they should be, and still out do ya with an over rated tank (so there nyaaahhhh).

[pax27]

Pax: you are in my mood, man (btw (by the way) did u (YOU) just turned forty 2 (too)? ) Will try to have a look at those pages ASAP (as soon as possible).

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Noooooo. No, no, no...NO!
I´m not even close. But now I feel old <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

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And BTW (we all know this one by now), thou art wise Les the Sarge 9-1, picking on peoples English skills are a bit off, but as long as it´s made in good will, I think it´s fine. I for one like to get better on this whole writing-in-English bit.
But, like you wrote, who likes to be corrected no matter what´s at stake. I was always a poor speller myself, more of a talker <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> and I think I´ve misspelt more things in this post alone then most Americans do during their entire schoolyears. And I´ve had some trouble with thru/through, and tough, rough, you know, all those "ough"-kind of words. But for the sake of us all, I´m trying! <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

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[RichardTheFirst]

Originally posted by pax27:

Noooooo. No, no, no...NO!
I´m not even close. But now I feel old <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

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Right, sorry. You are developed for your age, sonnyboy <img src="smile.gif" border="0">