Dai Toa Senzo - Chuck vs Pat - CHS 155 allied side
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RE: Palmyra - Can I keep it?
Situation near Palmyra:
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CV strikes
12/23/41
I spot KB the hard way, but wreak some havoc on his Palmyra invasion. A counter-attack in the Phillipines is successful. A Jap CS sinks as well.
CENT PAC
Bolos & A-20s at Palmyra, as well as SBDs and Devastators from Sara pound his invasion TF 60 miles W of Palmyra. Apparently 5 DDs, 2 APs and 1 AK. 3 of the DDs sink after the last attack. Multiple bomb hits and heavy damage are reported against all the ships, and a total of 447 ground losses are reported. [:)]
Since I'm now sure KB is far away, Sara's headed SW to pound the TF again, whether he retreats or keeps going. If I were him I'd still land - his ships are probably doomed but he might just get enough forces landed to take the island. 6 PTs, 1 AVD & 1 MSW stand guard. Only a base force is on the island.
If he does take Palmyra (hopefully that's unlikely now) I'll have enough transports in PH in 2 days to start loading for a counter-invasion. He'll at least be extremely weak there and I should re-take it easily.
The combat report:
12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 11
A-20B Boston x 11
Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
DD Mochizuki
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 4
AK Canton Maru
AP Shintoku Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Yayoi
DD Hayate
Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
2 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
3 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
3 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
2 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
4 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
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12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 34
TBD Devastator x 18
Brewster 339D x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Canton Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yayoi, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Hayate
DD Mochizuki, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shintoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Oite, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kisaragi, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
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12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 7
A-20B Boston x 7
Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Uji Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shintoku Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
203 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
3 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
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12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 32
TBD Devastator x 17
Brewster 339D x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Oite, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayate, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Yayoi, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kisaragi, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shintoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Uji Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
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SO PAC
KB show up near the Santa Cruz islands and ambushes a small surface combat TF I had hanging around. [:@] I'd been hoping that they would do the ambushing. CA Pensacola and CL Achilles are sunk. CL Leander is at 74/55/49 and is soon to join them. In hindsight I should have scuttled her and saved a couple VPs.
I also spot some TFs in the Solomons heading SE. Is I expected, it looks like he's going to land in the Santa Cruz/New Hebrides area, but I was hoping he wouldn't have the CV support.
Lexington and Enterprise are 660 miles WSW of KB. They're retreating towards Sydney for replenishment.
DEI
CS Chiyoda, after being pounded from Amboina for several days, sinks. His raiding surface TF appears to be headed towards Palau for replenishment. Force Z is headed towards the Banda sea for now, but I may send it elsewhere. Not sure.
Baby KB has been hanging out NE of Manado for two or three days. There are several transport TFs at Davao. I suspect he's re-loading the units that attacked at Mindanao, with Baby KB providing air cover. New landings must be coming soon.
CL Boise, who got bombed a couple days ago N of New Guinea, is now at 80 Flt and still days from port. [:(]
PHIL
My calvary sweep with the 2 US tank battalions shock attacks at Tuguegarao and takes the base from some paratroops. He retreats towards Aparri where I'm headed next.
In a raid against Manila I shoot down 1 Zero and 5 Nells for the loss of 3 P-40s. I'll take that, particularly since most of my CAP was standing down. It's all flying now, though I expect him to hit Clark today.
I've flown in a squadron of Hudsons and another of Bleinheim IVs to Manila. The Hudsons will naval attack and the Bleinheims ground attack at Lamon Bay. He's got 1 unit there - I hope to gain some intel on it. I'm considering another counterattack there. The bombers will probably only stay for one day, but it should surprise him. I want to make him regret not pushing harder for the Phillipines.
MALAYA
He lands at Mersing and will take Kuala Lumpur tomorrow. My rearguard at Malacca is now marching towards Johore Bahru. I doubt now I'll evict him from there, but I think I can hold a good long while. The supply situation is still decent.
One oddity: he sent 2 DDs into Singapore and scored some shell hits against transports there. The CD guns didn't fire at all. [&:]
2 TB squadrons are flown into Singapore. If the CD guns won't help me, maybe they will.
CHINA
There's a failed Jap deliberate attack at Hong Kong. It'll surely hold past Christmas now.
Mostly this theater is quiet, which is fine by me. I'm still trying to figure out what to do here.
BURMA
I now have 4 brigades at Moulmein. I'm slowly building up my airstrength in the area, and he seems to have very little airstrength around. I'm still not sure I can do it, but I still intend to try and hold there for a while.
I spot KB the hard way, but wreak some havoc on his Palmyra invasion. A counter-attack in the Phillipines is successful. A Jap CS sinks as well.
CENT PAC
Bolos & A-20s at Palmyra, as well as SBDs and Devastators from Sara pound his invasion TF 60 miles W of Palmyra. Apparently 5 DDs, 2 APs and 1 AK. 3 of the DDs sink after the last attack. Multiple bomb hits and heavy damage are reported against all the ships, and a total of 447 ground losses are reported. [:)]
Since I'm now sure KB is far away, Sara's headed SW to pound the TF again, whether he retreats or keeps going. If I were him I'd still land - his ships are probably doomed but he might just get enough forces landed to take the island. 6 PTs, 1 AVD & 1 MSW stand guard. Only a base force is on the island.
If he does take Palmyra (hopefully that's unlikely now) I'll have enough transports in PH in 2 days to start loading for a counter-invasion. He'll at least be extremely weak there and I should re-take it easily.
The combat report:
12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 11
A-20B Boston x 11
Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
DD Mochizuki
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 4
AK Canton Maru
AP Shintoku Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Yayoi
DD Hayate
Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
2 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
3 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
3 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
2 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
4 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
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12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 34
TBD Devastator x 18
Brewster 339D x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Canton Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yayoi, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Hayate
DD Mochizuki, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shintoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Oite, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kisaragi, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
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12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 7
A-20B Boston x 7
Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Uji Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shintoku Maru, Shell hits 4, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
203 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
3 x B-18A Bolo bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A-20B Boston attacking at 100 feet
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12/23/41
Day Air attack on TF at 109,90
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
SBD Dauntless x 32
TBD Devastator x 17
Brewster 339D x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
DD Oite, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayate, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Yayoi, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kisaragi, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Shintoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Uji Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
8 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
9 x TBD Devastator bombing at 15000 feet
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SO PAC
KB show up near the Santa Cruz islands and ambushes a small surface combat TF I had hanging around. [:@] I'd been hoping that they would do the ambushing. CA Pensacola and CL Achilles are sunk. CL Leander is at 74/55/49 and is soon to join them. In hindsight I should have scuttled her and saved a couple VPs.
I also spot some TFs in the Solomons heading SE. Is I expected, it looks like he's going to land in the Santa Cruz/New Hebrides area, but I was hoping he wouldn't have the CV support.
Lexington and Enterprise are 660 miles WSW of KB. They're retreating towards Sydney for replenishment.
DEI
CS Chiyoda, after being pounded from Amboina for several days, sinks. His raiding surface TF appears to be headed towards Palau for replenishment. Force Z is headed towards the Banda sea for now, but I may send it elsewhere. Not sure.
Baby KB has been hanging out NE of Manado for two or three days. There are several transport TFs at Davao. I suspect he's re-loading the units that attacked at Mindanao, with Baby KB providing air cover. New landings must be coming soon.
CL Boise, who got bombed a couple days ago N of New Guinea, is now at 80 Flt and still days from port. [:(]
PHIL
My calvary sweep with the 2 US tank battalions shock attacks at Tuguegarao and takes the base from some paratroops. He retreats towards Aparri where I'm headed next.
In a raid against Manila I shoot down 1 Zero and 5 Nells for the loss of 3 P-40s. I'll take that, particularly since most of my CAP was standing down. It's all flying now, though I expect him to hit Clark today.
I've flown in a squadron of Hudsons and another of Bleinheim IVs to Manila. The Hudsons will naval attack and the Bleinheims ground attack at Lamon Bay. He's got 1 unit there - I hope to gain some intel on it. I'm considering another counterattack there. The bombers will probably only stay for one day, but it should surprise him. I want to make him regret not pushing harder for the Phillipines.
MALAYA
He lands at Mersing and will take Kuala Lumpur tomorrow. My rearguard at Malacca is now marching towards Johore Bahru. I doubt now I'll evict him from there, but I think I can hold a good long while. The supply situation is still decent.
One oddity: he sent 2 DDs into Singapore and scored some shell hits against transports there. The CD guns didn't fire at all. [&:]
2 TB squadrons are flown into Singapore. If the CD guns won't help me, maybe they will.
CHINA
There's a failed Jap deliberate attack at Hong Kong. It'll surely hold past Christmas now.
Mostly this theater is quiet, which is fine by me. I'm still trying to figure out what to do here.
BURMA
I now have 4 brigades at Moulmein. I'm slowly building up my airstrength in the area, and he seems to have very little airstrength around. I'm still not sure I can do it, but I still intend to try and hold there for a while.
RE: CV strikes
100ft naval bombing in early war is actually slightly not fair
RE: CV strikes
ORIGINAL: Sneer
100ft naval bombing in early war is actually slightly not fair
Too accurate? Not done IRL?
I don't want to sound like I'm arguing with you - I'm not. I'm pleading ignorance. It's not an issue I'd ever considered.
RE: CV strikes
No offence given and no offence taken [:)]
skip bombing was introduced later
from memory : 43 year - it was very accurate - basicly almost only way to make 2e allied bombers ship killers
I know many or most players put it under house rules from this reason and allow it in the middle of the war
there was a good thread somewhere on the forum - I'll try to find sth but i'm not very successful with search engine here
skip bombing was introduced later
from memory : 43 year - it was very accurate - basicly almost only way to make 2e allied bombers ship killers
I know many or most players put it under house rules from this reason and allow it in the middle of the war
there was a good thread somewhere on the forum - I'll try to find sth but i'm not very successful with search engine here
RE: CV strikes
I don't know if I've ever found what I wanted with the search engine here.
I googled & according to this site the first skip bombing attack was Oct 23, 42 against Rabaul.
The next turn is already sent (I kept the A-20s at 100 feet), but I'll bump up the altitude when I can.
I googled & according to this site the first skip bombing attack was Oct 23, 42 against Rabaul.
The next turn is already sent (I kept the A-20s at 100 feet), but I'll bump up the altitude when I can.
RE: CV strikes
12/24/41
A relatively uneventful day. The threat to Palmyra seems to be all but non-existent now.
CENT PAC
The Jap invasion TF headed towards Palmyra is turned away by 1 MSW & 1 APD. A couple shell hits against the APD, but the damage is negligible. Afterwards, planes from both Sara & Palmyra attack. 1 Jap DD & 1 AP sink. 523 more ground troop losses reported. [:D] There's 1 DD, 1 AP & 1 AK left to the TF, and all have been hit.
SO PAC
KB's hanging around Luganville. I'm getting the hell out of Dodge. A minelaying TF headed towards Luganville is now diverting towards Noumea. Maybe I'll give him some trouble there if/when he tries to reinforce.
DEI
He's landed at Manado. Nothing I can do there, and what's worse is I have 20 damaged aircraft there. They'll be destroyed tomorrow when he takes the base.
PHIL
The ground unit at Lamon Bay is a division. I won't be counterattacking there. [;)]
He lands paratroops at Tuguerdhdiugoe... (or however it's spelled.) I'll repulse them easily, but it slows down my calvalry sweep towards Aparri. I suspect reinforcements are on their way & we're in another little race.
The Blenheims I staged from Manila are rebased back in Burma. The Hudsons didn't attack; I'm keeping them here for the moment.
Nothing to note in other theaters.
A relatively uneventful day. The threat to Palmyra seems to be all but non-existent now.
CENT PAC
The Jap invasion TF headed towards Palmyra is turned away by 1 MSW & 1 APD. A couple shell hits against the APD, but the damage is negligible. Afterwards, planes from both Sara & Palmyra attack. 1 Jap DD & 1 AP sink. 523 more ground troop losses reported. [:D] There's 1 DD, 1 AP & 1 AK left to the TF, and all have been hit.
SO PAC
KB's hanging around Luganville. I'm getting the hell out of Dodge. A minelaying TF headed towards Luganville is now diverting towards Noumea. Maybe I'll give him some trouble there if/when he tries to reinforce.
DEI
He's landed at Manado. Nothing I can do there, and what's worse is I have 20 damaged aircraft there. They'll be destroyed tomorrow when he takes the base.
PHIL
The ground unit at Lamon Bay is a division. I won't be counterattacking there. [;)]
He lands paratroops at Tuguerdhdiugoe... (or however it's spelled.) I'll repulse them easily, but it slows down my calvalry sweep towards Aparri. I suspect reinforcements are on their way & we're in another little race.
The Blenheims I staged from Manila are rebased back in Burma. The Hudsons didn't attack; I'm keeping them here for the moment.
Nothing to note in other theaters.
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jwilkerson
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China ?
Current situation in China: ... suggestions welcomed ...
You said it earlier, "hit em where they aren't" ...
Looks like maybe he is driving in the North.
Reinforce there to the extent you can and then threaten in the south and center.
Nanchang is a juicy target. A drive from Changsha toward Hankow can threaten both Hankow and Kiukiang and thereby threaten to cutoff Nanchang. This will force a response ( in the battle for the initiative ).
In the North you're ability to reinforce is limited. So just put up the best ( most concentrated ) defense you can and then try to go crazy elsewhere. If he has sent additional units to the North, then you will be exploiting weakness.
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RE: China ?
ORIGINAL: jwilkerson
Current situation in China: ... suggestions welcomed ...
You said it earlier, "hit em where they aren't" ...
Looks like maybe he is driving in the North.
Reinforce there to the extent you can and then threaten in the south and center.
Nanchang is a juicy target. A drive from Changsha toward Hankow can threaten both Hankow and Kiukiang and thereby threaten to cutoff Nanchang. This will force a response ( in the battle for the initiative ).
In the North you're ability to reinforce is limited. So just put up the best ( most concentrated ) defense you can and then try to go crazy elsewhere. If he has sent additional units to the North, then you will be exploiting weakness.
I checked out what you said. There's 15 Jap units in Hankow but only 4 in Kiukiang and 5 in Nanchang. The route to Nanchang is shortest - I started prepping some units for there.
I also discovered 2 divisions sitting in the middle of rice paddies since day 1, which I failed to move! [:(]
XMas truce (sort of)
Christmas, 1941
Mostly a quiet day. A little excitement in the Phillipines.
CENT PAC
LBA from Palmyra finishes off the invasion TF headed there. [:)]
I almost sent Sara back home to Pearl, but decided to send her towards Canton Island for a quick raid there - she's over halfway there already. I'll at least beat up on the port and airfields some & eat up some of his supply. She'll then go back to Pearl to form up with Yorktown, slowly making her way from the Panama Canal.
SO PAC
I expect invasions in the Santa Cruz/New Hebrides area any day. KB's in the area, but I have no recon assets nearby & have lost track of it.
Lex & Enterprise are still headed toward Sydney - currently 420 miles W of New Caledonia.
DEI
He takes Manado. I lose a number of damaged planes on the ground there.
Force Z is currently headed toward Scerabaja. Repulse has lost a 4" turret and a 2-pd AA turret. I may sit her in port long enought to fix them. I probably won't ignore an oportunity to attack, though.
In N Sumatra I started marching the CD unit at Medan to Bankha. I'm hoping he'll re-land there again (as opposed to Medan) once the situation in Johore Bahru is resolved.
PHIL
My calvalry sweep not only ejects the paras from Tuguerarao but also, with "Pursue Enemy" orders is in Aparri today! He appears to be landing reinforcements - a heavily escorted TF with 4 spotted APs is there - but I'm shock attacking again. Port size 1 there - hopefully he won't unload too much.
A fresh squadron of Bleinheim IVs, flown in from Burma, are ground attacking. As is the P-40 squadron in Bataan. (I just realized that was a mistake - the airfield there is size 1.) A P-40 squadron from Manila is flying CAP at Tuguerarao in case he tries to land more paras there. That leaves 1 P-40 squadron for CAP at Manila. He didn't bomb there today - hopefully he stands down another day or two.
MALAYA
Vildebeests at Singapore put two torps into a DD and one into BB Haruna! No damage reported on the BB, though. [:(] The 2 Vildebeest squadrons there are greatly depleted, but will attack one more day b4 standing down. The 3rd Vildebeest squadron has already been withdrawn. The Swordfish squadron that started at Singapore has replaced losses at Rangoon. I intend to send it back towards Malaya eventually, but there are only 4 undamaged planes currently.
My rearguard will make it back to Johore Bahru unscathed.
He's had a unit in Kuala Lumpur for a couple days but hasn't attacked. I'm suspecting it's a base force or artillery unit or something similar. It's too late to go investigate, however.
CHINA
Quiet.
BURMA
Also quiet. In 2 -3 days I'll start bombing the pants off Pat's units advancing on Malaya.
Mostly a quiet day. A little excitement in the Phillipines.
CENT PAC
LBA from Palmyra finishes off the invasion TF headed there. [:)]
I almost sent Sara back home to Pearl, but decided to send her towards Canton Island for a quick raid there - she's over halfway there already. I'll at least beat up on the port and airfields some & eat up some of his supply. She'll then go back to Pearl to form up with Yorktown, slowly making her way from the Panama Canal.
SO PAC
I expect invasions in the Santa Cruz/New Hebrides area any day. KB's in the area, but I have no recon assets nearby & have lost track of it.
Lex & Enterprise are still headed toward Sydney - currently 420 miles W of New Caledonia.
DEI
He takes Manado. I lose a number of damaged planes on the ground there.
Force Z is currently headed toward Scerabaja. Repulse has lost a 4" turret and a 2-pd AA turret. I may sit her in port long enought to fix them. I probably won't ignore an oportunity to attack, though.
In N Sumatra I started marching the CD unit at Medan to Bankha. I'm hoping he'll re-land there again (as opposed to Medan) once the situation in Johore Bahru is resolved.
PHIL
My calvalry sweep not only ejects the paras from Tuguerarao but also, with "Pursue Enemy" orders is in Aparri today! He appears to be landing reinforcements - a heavily escorted TF with 4 spotted APs is there - but I'm shock attacking again. Port size 1 there - hopefully he won't unload too much.
A fresh squadron of Bleinheim IVs, flown in from Burma, are ground attacking. As is the P-40 squadron in Bataan. (I just realized that was a mistake - the airfield there is size 1.) A P-40 squadron from Manila is flying CAP at Tuguerarao in case he tries to land more paras there. That leaves 1 P-40 squadron for CAP at Manila. He didn't bomb there today - hopefully he stands down another day or two.
MALAYA
Vildebeests at Singapore put two torps into a DD and one into BB Haruna! No damage reported on the BB, though. [:(] The 2 Vildebeest squadrons there are greatly depleted, but will attack one more day b4 standing down. The 3rd Vildebeest squadron has already been withdrawn. The Swordfish squadron that started at Singapore has replaced losses at Rangoon. I intend to send it back towards Malaya eventually, but there are only 4 undamaged planes currently.
My rearguard will make it back to Johore Bahru unscathed.
He's had a unit in Kuala Lumpur for a couple days but hasn't attacked. I'm suspecting it's a base force or artillery unit or something similar. It's too late to go investigate, however.
CHINA
Quiet.
BURMA
Also quiet. In 2 -3 days I'll start bombing the pants off Pat's units advancing on Malaya.
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Rob Brennan UK
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RE: XMas truce (sort of)
Hi again .. back from an extended break over chrismas and new year .
you seem to be handling it very well imo. bit lucky with the force Z engagement mind you . 6 BB's could really have ruined your day but a dead CS is most welcome.
I am more convinced than ever he's using a plan devised vs the AI especially after the abortive palmyra affair. nice defending there by the way. as a side note for bomber altitude if its under 6k they take a morale hit and another flight check. may be better to operate at 6k and ignore them thereafter ( saves micro managing them and its more 'realsitic' . although his landing in johore baru was as far from really possible as you are likely to get so its your call imo. )
good use of the saratoga too. nice to see your not hiding till 43 , makes for a really dull AAR [:D]
and yup they do take time to write don't they ? [;)]. its worth it though in my opinion. sharing the game makes it more fun for me at least.
well .. good luck and its looking ok from the allied side as far as i can tell. when KB finally goes home .. time to get canton is. back as you have already planned for.. Noumea would be nice but its secondary imo. you can route round NZ if you have to. might be an idea to move up the troops in north island to aukland just in case he has plans for this too.
hows the oil evacuation from the DEI coming along ? can be very useful in australia to generate local supplies.
well thats it from me today .. have fun !
you seem to be handling it very well imo. bit lucky with the force Z engagement mind you . 6 BB's could really have ruined your day but a dead CS is most welcome.
I am more convinced than ever he's using a plan devised vs the AI especially after the abortive palmyra affair. nice defending there by the way. as a side note for bomber altitude if its under 6k they take a morale hit and another flight check. may be better to operate at 6k and ignore them thereafter ( saves micro managing them and its more 'realsitic' . although his landing in johore baru was as far from really possible as you are likely to get so its your call imo. )
good use of the saratoga too. nice to see your not hiding till 43 , makes for a really dull AAR [:D]
and yup they do take time to write don't they ? [;)]. its worth it though in my opinion. sharing the game makes it more fun for me at least.
well .. good luck and its looking ok from the allied side as far as i can tell. when KB finally goes home .. time to get canton is. back as you have already planned for.. Noumea would be nice but its secondary imo. you can route round NZ if you have to. might be an idea to move up the troops in north island to aukland just in case he has plans for this too.
hows the oil evacuation from the DEI coming along ? can be very useful in australia to generate local supplies.
well thats it from me today .. have fun !
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit 
RE: XMas truce (sort of)
Welcome back Rob. Hope you enjoyed the vacation. Thanks for continuing to follow my AAR.
Maybe I was a little reckless with Force Z. The deciding factor for me was his main gun ammo. He had 6x3 or 18 loads (whatever they're called) of main gun ammo and I had 16, plus radar on POW. Had we decisively engaged, I would have been hurt but so would Pat have been.
I'm flying most my bombers at 6000' or higher. I've bumped them down only on a couple occassions, when I was desparate, most notably at Palmyra.
I'm far from ready to go toe-to-toe with Force Z yet, but it seems silly to have carriers and not use them. IRL several raids were staged in Cent Pac. Plus you're right - much more dull! [;)]
Yes, the AAR is fun despite the work. I also appreciate the feedback and am finding it useful to put my thoughts down.
Thanks for the tip on NZ.
Oil evac from the DEI is going ok. Nothing out of Palembang, of course, [:(] but I've sent a good bit to Oz. I don't know the exact figures, but Batavia, Scerabaja, Balikpapkan & Tarakan all have less than 5000 oil stored there now. It's headed towards Darwin, Perth and Adelaide. A couple TKs are also coming from the US.
Maybe I was a little reckless with Force Z. The deciding factor for me was his main gun ammo. He had 6x3 or 18 loads (whatever they're called) of main gun ammo and I had 16, plus radar on POW. Had we decisively engaged, I would have been hurt but so would Pat have been.
I'm flying most my bombers at 6000' or higher. I've bumped them down only on a couple occassions, when I was desparate, most notably at Palmyra.
I'm far from ready to go toe-to-toe with Force Z yet, but it seems silly to have carriers and not use them. IRL several raids were staged in Cent Pac. Plus you're right - much more dull! [;)]
Yes, the AAR is fun despite the work. I also appreciate the feedback and am finding it useful to put my thoughts down.
Thanks for the tip on NZ.
Oil evac from the DEI is going ok. Nothing out of Palembang, of course, [:(] but I've sent a good bit to Oz. I don't know the exact figures, but Batavia, Scerabaja, Balikpapkan & Tarakan all have less than 5000 oil stored there now. It's headed towards Darwin, Perth and Adelaide. A couple TKs are also coming from the US.
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RE: XMas truce (sort of)
thats for the reply .. one other use for AK's is bring out fuel from the DEI to n australia . darwin and derby are my favourite dumping places
I cant resist using force Z either .. although repulse is a torpedo magnet and always has an ammo explosion on the first hit !
as a self imposed rule i dont use 4e bomers lower than 11k for naval attack either .. but thats just me i guess ..
also dont forget an odd AK to south is. they do run low after a couple of months too ..
good luck
I cant resist using force Z either
.. although repulse is a torpedo magnet and always has an ammo explosion on the first hit ! as a self imposed rule i dont use 4e bomers lower than 11k for naval attack either .. but thats just me i guess
.. also dont forget an odd AK to south is. they do run low after a couple of months too ..
good luck
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit
Mistake in Phillipines
12/26 - 12/27/41
Missed a day in updating this, then Pat left town for 3 days.
CENT PAC
Loading reinforcements for Palmyra, finally. Sara sinks an AK off Canton Island and beats up on the airfield & port some. I'd like to stick around another day or two (I want to keep his supply low there) but just noticed I have 15% of available sorties left on Sara. I don't want to send her back to Pearl unable to fly anything, so she's going back now.
SO PAC
I've lost sight of it, but I think KB's still in the area. A ML I had going to Luganville mines Noumea instead.
Lex & Enterprise are now 3-4 days from Sydney. Not currently sure what to do with them, other than upgrading the Buffalos on Lex. Send them both to DEI to maybe take on baby KB? Send one up there to hit isolated surface/invasion TFs? Both back to Pearl to join up with Sara & Yorktown? Well, I have a few days to decide yet.
SW PAC
Jap landings at Lunga. Nothing I want to try to do about it with KB possibly nearby.
More Jap TFs heading SE. I expect I'll lose all of the New Hebrides & New Caledonia.
DEI
Baby KB has moved off a little and is now near Jolo. Landings continue at Manado - I'm moving a Surface TF to Kendari to maybe strike there - depending on Baby KB's movements.
Force Z is a day out from Scerabaja now.
Mostly quiet here, though.
MALAYA
Landings continue at Johore Bahru. He's got about 40K troops there now. In 2 days, between both my Vildebeests & Subs, I manage only 1 torp into an AK.
He also bombarded there today, one BB in attendance. Except for one base force, 15 miles away, I've withdrawn all Malaya units now.
I've done well here air-to-air. He's tried to heavily bomb the Singapore airfields, but some of his raids came in without CAP. Losses over last 2 days:
Jap:
2 zeroes destroyed
5 Lilys destroyed, 13 damaged
6 Sallys destroyed, 37 damaged
1 Betty destroyed, 5 damaged
7 Nells destroyed, 33 damgaged
Allied:
1 Vildebeest destroyed
2 P-40s destroyed, 3 damaged
Despite his raids there's 0 runway damage and @ 5 air support damage.
Dutch TIVas are now close enough to re-base there next turn should I decide to.
PHIL
See screenshot.
My tank battalions chased the Japs into Aparri, but he continued to land paras behind me. I'm now cut off. DOH! I should have foreseen that. I shock attacked at Aparri for 2 days. Once at 1-1 and once at 0-1. Those batallions are toast now. [:(]
He's also finally started his ground assault at Clark.
Probably due to my basing Bleinheims & Hudsons there, he attacks the airfield at Manila both of the last two days with mixed results:
Zeros: 3 destroyed
Nells: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
Betties: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-40s: 8 destroyed, 6 damaged
Catalinas: 1 destroyed (on ground)
Bleinheims: 1 destroyed (on ground)
About the only good news is the supply situation is halfway decent still. (Manila -21 K; Clark 16K). I've been able to sneak a few small ships in north of Borneo. The ones coming from Tarakan have been blasted by air forces on Jolo.
CHINA
Still quiet. The only base he's currently attacking is Yenan, and that with only about equal forces. I'm going to counter-attack there tomorrow, and am also sending troops to Kaifeng, where only two enemy units are reported.
He seems to not have many units around. He must be massing somewhere out of sight. I checked the Russian border but there's not more than the usual # of units around there. [&:]
BURMA
Two B-17 squadrons arrive at Calcutta. Another is a day away. Air evac'd from Singapore is recuperating in the area too. I'll rest them all another two or three days and then start bombing both his AFs in Thailand and his units advancing on Moulmein.
Missed a day in updating this, then Pat left town for 3 days.
CENT PAC
Loading reinforcements for Palmyra, finally. Sara sinks an AK off Canton Island and beats up on the airfield & port some. I'd like to stick around another day or two (I want to keep his supply low there) but just noticed I have 15% of available sorties left on Sara. I don't want to send her back to Pearl unable to fly anything, so she's going back now.
SO PAC
I've lost sight of it, but I think KB's still in the area. A ML I had going to Luganville mines Noumea instead.
Lex & Enterprise are now 3-4 days from Sydney. Not currently sure what to do with them, other than upgrading the Buffalos on Lex. Send them both to DEI to maybe take on baby KB? Send one up there to hit isolated surface/invasion TFs? Both back to Pearl to join up with Sara & Yorktown? Well, I have a few days to decide yet.
SW PAC
Jap landings at Lunga. Nothing I want to try to do about it with KB possibly nearby.
More Jap TFs heading SE. I expect I'll lose all of the New Hebrides & New Caledonia.
DEI
Baby KB has moved off a little and is now near Jolo. Landings continue at Manado - I'm moving a Surface TF to Kendari to maybe strike there - depending on Baby KB's movements.
Force Z is a day out from Scerabaja now.
Mostly quiet here, though.
MALAYA
Landings continue at Johore Bahru. He's got about 40K troops there now. In 2 days, between both my Vildebeests & Subs, I manage only 1 torp into an AK.
He also bombarded there today, one BB in attendance. Except for one base force, 15 miles away, I've withdrawn all Malaya units now.
I've done well here air-to-air. He's tried to heavily bomb the Singapore airfields, but some of his raids came in without CAP. Losses over last 2 days:
Jap:
2 zeroes destroyed
5 Lilys destroyed, 13 damaged
6 Sallys destroyed, 37 damaged
1 Betty destroyed, 5 damaged
7 Nells destroyed, 33 damgaged
Allied:
1 Vildebeest destroyed
2 P-40s destroyed, 3 damaged
Despite his raids there's 0 runway damage and @ 5 air support damage.
Dutch TIVas are now close enough to re-base there next turn should I decide to.
PHIL
See screenshot.
My tank battalions chased the Japs into Aparri, but he continued to land paras behind me. I'm now cut off. DOH! I should have foreseen that. I shock attacked at Aparri for 2 days. Once at 1-1 and once at 0-1. Those batallions are toast now. [:(]
He's also finally started his ground assault at Clark.
Probably due to my basing Bleinheims & Hudsons there, he attacks the airfield at Manila both of the last two days with mixed results:
Zeros: 3 destroyed
Nells: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
Betties: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-40s: 8 destroyed, 6 damaged
Catalinas: 1 destroyed (on ground)
Bleinheims: 1 destroyed (on ground)
About the only good news is the supply situation is halfway decent still. (Manila -21 K; Clark 16K). I've been able to sneak a few small ships in north of Borneo. The ones coming from Tarakan have been blasted by air forces on Jolo.
CHINA
Still quiet. The only base he's currently attacking is Yenan, and that with only about equal forces. I'm going to counter-attack there tomorrow, and am also sending troops to Kaifeng, where only two enemy units are reported.
He seems to not have many units around. He must be massing somewhere out of sight. I checked the Russian border but there's not more than the usual # of units around there. [&:]
BURMA
Two B-17 squadrons arrive at Calcutta. Another is a day away. Air evac'd from Singapore is recuperating in the area too. I'll rest them all another two or three days and then start bombing both his AFs in Thailand and his units advancing on Moulmein.
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RE: Mistake in Phillipines
To save PP's you can operate TIV's from the sumatran bases instead of singapore. also means weather will have a lesser impact too.
nice attack with the saratoga .. brave though.
imo .. keeping your CV's alive is a great deterrant in itself , trying to engage this early will almost inevitably lead to a 'bad result' somewhere. Use them in critical situations where KB isn't is my advice.
nice attack with the saratoga .. brave though.
imo .. keeping your CV's alive is a great deterrant in itself , trying to engage this early will almost inevitably lead to a 'bad result' somewhere. Use them in critical situations where KB isn't is my advice.
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit
RE: Mistake in Phillipines
12/28 - 12/29/41
CENT PAC
I've finally sent all units to be repaired at WC to WC. That includes all the BBs. I've left a few damaged CAs, CLs, & DDs at Pearl to get use out of the yards there.
A TF with 2 CAs & 5 DMS is 2 days away from bombarding Canton Island. I want to keep his supply low there.
Plan to re-take Canton Island:
While I'd like to go a little quicker, here's the plan I've decided upon:
One brigade of the 25th Div (at PH) is currently prepping for Canton Island. Also 2 artillery units & 1 engineer regiment.
In 14 days I get 2 base forces & 1 RCT team assigned to CENT PAC. Also a great deal of AKs & APS.
I plan to land with the brigade, the RCT, the engineer regiment & the two artillery units. The BF will be in another TF ready to land once the island is taken.
Also, Yorktown will have arrived in Pearl by then. I'll provide CV support with both Yorktown & Sara.
SO PAC & SW PAC
He's landed at both Luganville & Lunga but hasn't attacked for a couple days. Oversight on Pat's part?
My CVs (Lex & Enterprise) are now 2 days away from Sydney. I just realized there's nowhere near enough fuel there to refuel them in full so am sending some from elsewhere.
I definitely have no intention of tangling with KB at this point in time. However, I want him know that I'm willing to use my CVs, in order to make him a little more cautious & slow him down. At this point in time, I know I can't stop him but would like him to commit CV support to every invasion he makes.
You're probably right, though. I'll try to stay away from Baby KB, too.
DEI
Still pretty quiet. Force Z is now disbanded at Scerabaja.
A few days ago a British MLE arrived. The minelayers I left in the area are now laying mines all over the place.
PHIL
Pat continues to attack the airfields at Manila. He's definitely beating me up. I disband one P-40 squadron (4 flyable aircraft.) At Manilla there's currently 2 P-40E squadrons with a total of 16 undamaged planes.
He hasn't yet counter-attacked my 2 tank battalions at Aparri, but I suspect he will soon.
Bombardments on both sides at Clark field.
MANILA
Yesterday, I pulled all the air out of there. Mainly because the 1st AVG squadron was dangerously low on planes. (Down to 4 or 5).
Today, I flew in all my Vildebeests plus the Dutch TIVas. 3rd squadron AVG (19 undamaged planes and decent exp/morale) is now flying CAP.
Good point - I hadn't thought of it. I considered it. However in CHS only Bankha has a size 2 AF (I forget what's there in stock) and the supplies there are very low. The PP cost was only 20 or so for each squadron.
BURMA
Air attacks start against his ground units advancing on Moumein today. B-17s from Calcutta & Bleinheims from Magwe & Mandalay.
I'd say a little more, but he's already got the next turn back to me!
CENT PAC
I've finally sent all units to be repaired at WC to WC. That includes all the BBs. I've left a few damaged CAs, CLs, & DDs at Pearl to get use out of the yards there.
A TF with 2 CAs & 5 DMS is 2 days away from bombarding Canton Island. I want to keep his supply low there.
Plan to re-take Canton Island:
While I'd like to go a little quicker, here's the plan I've decided upon:
One brigade of the 25th Div (at PH) is currently prepping for Canton Island. Also 2 artillery units & 1 engineer regiment.
In 14 days I get 2 base forces & 1 RCT team assigned to CENT PAC. Also a great deal of AKs & APS.
I plan to land with the brigade, the RCT, the engineer regiment & the two artillery units. The BF will be in another TF ready to land once the island is taken.
Also, Yorktown will have arrived in Pearl by then. I'll provide CV support with both Yorktown & Sara.
SO PAC & SW PAC
He's landed at both Luganville & Lunga but hasn't attacked for a couple days. Oversight on Pat's part?
My CVs (Lex & Enterprise) are now 2 days away from Sydney. I just realized there's nowhere near enough fuel there to refuel them in full so am sending some from elsewhere.
ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
imo .. keeping your CV's alive is a great deterrant in itself , trying to engage this early will almost inevitably lead to a 'bad result' somewhere. Use them in critical situations where KB isn't is my advice.
I definitely have no intention of tangling with KB at this point in time. However, I want him know that I'm willing to use my CVs, in order to make him a little more cautious & slow him down. At this point in time, I know I can't stop him but would like him to commit CV support to every invasion he makes.
You're probably right, though. I'll try to stay away from Baby KB, too.
DEI
Still pretty quiet. Force Z is now disbanded at Scerabaja.
A few days ago a British MLE arrived. The minelayers I left in the area are now laying mines all over the place.
PHIL
Pat continues to attack the airfields at Manila. He's definitely beating me up. I disband one P-40 squadron (4 flyable aircraft.) At Manilla there's currently 2 P-40E squadrons with a total of 16 undamaged planes.
He hasn't yet counter-attacked my 2 tank battalions at Aparri, but I suspect he will soon.
Bombardments on both sides at Clark field.
MANILA
Yesterday, I pulled all the air out of there. Mainly because the 1st AVG squadron was dangerously low on planes. (Down to 4 or 5).
Today, I flew in all my Vildebeests plus the Dutch TIVas. 3rd squadron AVG (19 undamaged planes and decent exp/morale) is now flying CAP.
ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
To save PP's you can operate TIV's from the sumatran bases instead of singapore. also means weather will have a lesser impact too.
Good point - I hadn't thought of it. I considered it. However in CHS only Bankha has a size 2 AF (I forget what's there in stock) and the supplies there are very low. The PP cost was only 20 or so for each squadron.
BURMA
Air attacks start against his ground units advancing on Moumein today. B-17s from Calcutta & Bleinheims from Magwe & Mandalay.
I'd say a little more, but he's already got the next turn back to me!
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RE: Mistake in Phillipines
Hi ctangus, I decided to follow ths AAR because Rob is too[:D].
Actually I found it interesting as I think that the Japanese player in your game is way overextended and is leaving you with many opportunities for attacking him. Taking Canton and Noumia might work in Jan-Feb but Japan just doesn't have the forces to keep those bases supplied IHMO (and I play japan alot, just ask ROB) Your playing well and I can tell you that in China, just keep pressure on Japan wherever you can, becuase there are not enough Japanese troops and unless he concentrates a huge force somewhere he wont be able to overwhelm you. Despite my being a Jap fanboy, good luck to you[8D]
Actually I found it interesting as I think that the Japanese player in your game is way overextended and is leaving you with many opportunities for attacking him. Taking Canton and Noumia might work in Jan-Feb but Japan just doesn't have the forces to keep those bases supplied IHMO (and I play japan alot, just ask ROB) Your playing well and I can tell you that in China, just keep pressure on Japan wherever you can, becuase there are not enough Japanese troops and unless he concentrates a huge force somewhere he wont be able to overwhelm you. Despite my being a Jap fanboy, good luck to you[8D]
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RE: Mistake in Phillipines
Hi miller41,
I tend to think he's overextended too. What I'm doing my best to figure out is where he's the most overextended so I can hit him. So far, with a little bit of luck added in, I think I've done well.
Thanks for the data on China & thanks for the good wishes, despite being a Jap fanboy [;)].
I've been following Rob's AAR for a while and in the last day or 2 yours (you've been quiet for a while, haven't you?) I haven't posted on either since I haven't thought I had anything worthwhile to contribute. But I'd like to say I'm definitely interested in how your game goes.
I tend to think he's overextended too. What I'm doing my best to figure out is where he's the most overextended so I can hit him. So far, with a little bit of luck added in, I think I've done well.
Thanks for the data on China & thanks for the good wishes, despite being a Jap fanboy [;)].
I've been following Rob's AAR for a while and in the last day or 2 yours (you've been quiet for a while, haven't you?) I haven't posted on either since I haven't thought I had anything worthwhile to contribute. But I'd like to say I'm definitely interested in how your game goes.
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RE: Mistake in Phillipines
Thnaks for reading my humble offerings Ctangus. and hello Ken ! we can hijack the thread to chat [;)].. only kidding ..
I play china defensively .. i.e try and keep all you currently have at whatever cost .. howverr as china you really need to think ahead as the movement is awfully slow on the trails and roads you have to rely on. get the corps north of yene into the city ASAP imo. then just react as you can .. remember to get some troops into the almost peninsula hex NW of changsha as japan will try and flank and cut off you cities if he can .. its actually a very even fight in china despite what others may post.
Gettting the dutch ML's to diamond harbour is good imo too .. you can heavily defend the east coast of india and ceylon too.as you seem to be doing rather well .. also dutch subs O19 and o20 are great minelayers too .. just ask Miller ( KEN ) .. he's been troubled by my mining at random in the DEI ..
i believ you have the 27th US inf DIV in san fran coming soon or even there .. its a good solid unit to hit Canton with too . the 40th Divs starts very weak and will take months to build up.
Personally the 25th at PH i split in 3 .. one to palmyra/midway/jhonson is .. respectively .. also bring in one div from the US so you have at least 2 in PH just in case of a suprise invasion .. after june 42 your pretty safe imo and them move all but one out to where you need /want more troops.
2nd USMC is also a good canton candidate but i believe in CHS it arrives much later than in the vanilla version.
Yikes .. you are getting beaten horribly in the PI in the air .. get them out .. my favourite route is through china to india where they can rebuild and then really help the brits over burma. P40's are like golddust early on .. very few replcements for both the B's and E's .. use them wisely. P39's on the other hand are plentiful ( soon ) but pretty rubbish .. best used for port defence imo .. also any ground based F3 and F4 units are invaluable .. the pools are huge and they can be comitted heavily if needs be.
well thats my 2p worth ..
I play china defensively .. i.e try and keep all you currently have at whatever cost .. howverr as china you really need to think ahead as the movement is awfully slow on the trails and roads you have to rely on. get the corps north of yene into the city ASAP imo. then just react as you can .. remember to get some troops into the almost peninsula hex NW of changsha as japan will try and flank and cut off you cities if he can .. its actually a very even fight in china despite what others may post.
Gettting the dutch ML's to diamond harbour is good imo too .. you can heavily defend the east coast of india and ceylon too.as you seem to be doing rather well .. also dutch subs O19 and o20 are great minelayers too .. just ask Miller ( KEN ) .. he's been troubled by my mining at random in the DEI ..
i believ you have the 27th US inf DIV in san fran coming soon or even there .. its a good solid unit to hit Canton with too . the 40th Divs starts very weak and will take months to build up.
Personally the 25th at PH i split in 3 .. one to palmyra/midway/jhonson is .. respectively .. also bring in one div from the US so you have at least 2 in PH just in case of a suprise invasion .. after june 42 your pretty safe imo and them move all but one out to where you need /want more troops.
2nd USMC is also a good canton candidate but i believe in CHS it arrives much later than in the vanilla version.
Yikes .. you are getting beaten horribly in the PI in the air .. get them out .. my favourite route is through china to india where they can rebuild and then really help the brits over burma. P40's are like golddust early on .. very few replcements for both the B's and E's .. use them wisely. P39's on the other hand are plentiful ( soon ) but pretty rubbish .. best used for port defence imo .. also any ground based F3 and F4 units are invaluable .. the pools are huge and they can be comitted heavily if needs be.
well thats my 2p worth ..
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit