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Empires in Arms is the computer version of Australian Design Group classic board game. Empires in Arms is a seven player game of grand strategy set during the Napoleonic period of 1805-1815. The unit scale is corps level with full diplomatic options

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McGuire
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RE: We're still alive!

Post by McGuire »

@Grand_Armee

I think your reply was a little harsh, and more than a bit exaggerated.

e.g.
I actually do not think that a campain in cEiA can be played within one afternoon.
And why is that so?
Diplomacy. You can't handle that much diplomacy in such a short time. And from my point of view it's A (if not THE) gameplay of EiA.

And because you like the word, here it is:
Stop whining because some people like strategy games with another focus.

I don't like CoG. Bought it, played it, dumped it! And got the heck beaten out of me for spending the money (women are so cruel [;)] ).

Now I don't like the micromanagement - you say I don't have to do it. Well - I don't think so! There is no way to win the game (or I haven't found it yet) without the micromanagement.
But you surely know the game better than I do!

But in the end:
Keep on playing CoG. You like it - you play it.
I don't like CoG - so I keep on waiting for cEiA.
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RE: We're still alive!

Post by Ursa MAior »

Well I always try to be polite, and there are some who can always prove that I am not. The style (in this case of communication) defines the personality. Don't be offeneded (just a bit [:D]), but I wouldnt like to be your neighbour Grand Armee.

I still preserve my right to be critical about anybody's wife or baby, of course keeping the rules of courtesy (let's say not openly criticizing her in a numerous audience). These can be ticked in my case. Please allow me to sound my opinion in a forum of another game (even if comparable one) maintaining

1. I dont want to get into a my daddy is stronger than yours bullying (CEiA vs CoG)
2. I mean no offense on anybody (developers, partiots etc.)

and
Well, I was and still am on the verge of purchasing CoG, but would like to see a final word on cEiA first (in the meantime MP/AI problems can be fixed). As I said before I see no problem with buying CoG, but only as plan B.

compared to your post
Have you thought of (purchasing and) helping on the open development forum? What? No, again? Why am I not surprised?

Please dont be read only.

For me (probably unlike the majority of the forum visitors) purchasing an original game is AN investment. I dont like games downloaded from warez pages for a number of reasons (problem with patches, missing manual, strong MP interest from my side etc.), but I've burned my hands with Medieval Total War and Uncommon Valor too (they failed to deliver what I expected). Both were fun for one or two months but for something worth almost 10% of my monthly income I expect more. It is not necessarily the games' or their developers' fault, maybe I should have read more about them. I still dream of a game tailored for my expectation, hoping that cEiA will be it.

As of my criticism. I have not run to any of the CoG forums like many have done it before (and will do I am positive), cursing the developers shouting worst game I've ever played/bought/seen stuff. In many cases I feel my critics is well in place (why have MM just to leave it off or as you said)
If you don't want to improve it, no big deal. Nothing is making you. That state certainly won't fall off the map.

Yeah it wont. But what is the whole point of having it if you dont use this option?

To sum up my opinion CoG is a great game (with its infacy problems), a good siumlation which RESEMBLES the 19th century through the glasses of a 21 st century reviewer, resembles, but is not it. And yes I want a game where I can conquer Moscow and even keep it, but the turks will sure have to help me by keeping the other half of the russian army busy! And NO I dont want a game (only if all other hope fails) where 258.000 french can land unhindered in UK and fights 455.000 english, half of which is a guerilla. NO I dont want a game where Turkey can be a naval power comparable to UK and a land power comparable to France.

I am sorry to say that, but the wolrd looks MUCH different if you are NOT in the land of the free, and home of the brave. I believe that you believe that everything can be changed, it is only a matter of will, organisation and resources, but in real world things cannot be turned upside down without grim consequences. I believe that it is fun to lead second rate powers to world dominance (giving every player almost even chances), but as a history teacher-to-be please allow me to be skeptic about these kind of approaches towards history. If you allow your view about the world to influence your judgement of historical events you will get very far away from reality.



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