Fatal Years for 1.03

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ORIGINAL: Keke

"French troops unfixed" -event doesn't seem to work*. At least, not in the turn it is announced.

*excluding the regiment in Sevastopol

Not a bug: the unfixing is random. Will be checked each turn the AIl is 13. You know, politicians are cautiously discussing, military leaders are writing memos about the risks involved by an active participation...[:D]
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Keke, rejoice [:D]

I've made some changes to ANA AI, and I've modified a bit the AIL: it decreased much less than I planned. So, if you begin a new game with Whites, the AIl should be much more difficult to mainain after the first months of 1919...

Nex version soon, in the never achieved mod [8D]
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New FY version

Available on my blog ( see my sig).

Compatible with ongoing games.



FY having reached now a very mature state, this new version is just:



- fixing bugs of the official version about some leaders

- improving a bit Poland and Anarchist AIs ( yes, theses factions are in FY independent and driven by AI, with some pretty good results for Poland, Freikorps, and even ANA, who were just too aggressive)

- worked a bit on game balance, with changes for AIL decrease rate.
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ANd don't worry for the future: I'm very resilient [:)] I will do and maintain my AGE mods because I play them and I enjoy playing them. That's maybe the difference with others: knowing the scripting language and playing what I create [:'(]

Wrangel AI has churned out in my game Kamenev Army in september 19 around Kharkov [:D]
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Downloading and rejoicing. [;)]
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I think when anarchists are done in FY then it is mostly complete versus Swhites &Reds.  Though maybe Siberians can be tested.
Thanks for your work and I have no doubt that you are not resilient about any problems in game that can appear [:)]
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Siberian and Southern Whites AI are yet to be maybe improved indeed. That's why I need remarks, critics and other reports I may reply. FY will never be achieved [:)] I don't care is some don't like or find bugs or errors: if justified I will fix them. The only point is good faith on both sides.
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About AI in Fatal years:

At least, a recent Red AAR ( ;-) has opened my eyes on a fact: I never detailed what are my aims for AI in FY, beyond the attempt to get it better.



Fatal Years isn’t only an AI mod. He tries too, rightly or wrongly, to be more accurate, more historical.



Only great designs, like Hannibal, may succeed in being both historical and AI strong. I’ve not this gift.

I’ve chosen to have as first priority to introduce what I felt like needed historical facts. The second is to have the AI playing with the same rules than an human player.



To take one example, FY has solved the overpowered Siberian Whites unbalance described by some in the official game. The Siberian AI suffers the same penalties for the essential.

So, as I can’t create an AI better than a human player :-) , the AI performance must be assessed mainly against historical performance. In this sense, White AIs must be defeated by a rEd player before the end of 1920. I can’t even imagine a White AI able to win against a Red player. On the contrary, a White player surviving until 1922 has at least done better than in history.

I will never curb the reality or introduce cheating for AI to balance a game. To balance, it’s better for the player to choose to give bonus to AI( possible in the option settings) beyond the recommended +2 bonus for Fog of War .



On my own, I will certainly introduce, when I will have more data about real outcomes of game, a VP bonus for a side after the historical game. By example, it could be a bonus to Whites after 1920 in VP each turn. This would balance the game without altering the historical settings.
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ORIGINAL: Chliperic

ORIGINAL: Keke

"French troops unfixed" -event doesn't seem to work*. At least, not in the turn it is announced.

*excluding the regiment in Sevastopol

Not a bug: the unfixing is random. Will be checked each turn the AIl is 13. You know, politicians are cautiously discussing, military leaders are writing memos about the risks involved by an active participation...[:D]

I can report that the probability for unfixing is very, very low. I've had AIL=13 for several months, I had used 50 EP to activate Frech and Greeks even earlier, but the forces at Odessa have remain fixed...
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ORIGINAL: Keke

ORIGINAL: Chliperic

ORIGINAL: Keke

"French troops unfixed" -event doesn't seem to work*. At least, not in the turn it is announced.

*excluding the regiment in Sevastopol

Not a bug: the unfixing is random. Will be checked each turn the AIl is 13. You know, politicians are cautiously discussing, military leaders are writing memos about the risks involved by an active participation...[:D]

I can report that the probability for unfixing is very, very low. I've had AIL=13 for several months, I had used 50 EP to activate Frech and Greeks even earlier, but the forces at Odessa have remain fixed...

You're right. I will up it in the next version. It's really difficult to assess the correct probability value, I was myself thinking yesterday it should need to be raised, but I was waiting your report on... [:)]
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New version of Fatal Yeras released on my blog ( see my sig)

Compatible with ongoing games

changes:

- one small, by raising the probability of active participation of French and Greek troops if the AIL is at 13.

- one major, by introducing changes in VPs for play balance:
Southern Whites will get 35 VP s by turn after August 1920
Siberian Whites will get 35 VPs after March 1920
To the condition for each to have a NM superior to 60.



Rather than in the official version of RUS searching balance by restricting Regional Decisions to areas with at least 51%of Loyalty, which is just the contrary of the reality of the RCW, this bonus in VPs will force the Red player to win as soon than in RL. a game ending in August 20 will be 54 tuens long, which isn’t that short. Except if you like 1,680 turns monster….
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quote]ORIGINAL: Chliperic

Siberian and Southern Whites AI are yet to be maybe improved indeed. That's why I need remarks, critics and other reports I may reply. FY will never be achieved [:)] I don't care is some don't like or find bugs or errors: if justified I will fix them. The only point is good faith on both sides.
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Honesty is the first thing above all between modders ,players or between anyone.
I have found this sentence very biased "I get a nasty surprise early as I see that many of my troops are at low organization levels and some of my ships need repairs starting out. I get a further nasty surprise when I find out that I am not able to take any regional decisions at all. I foresee a very short career for the revolution at this rate" . There is a decrease grade for not having able to take regional desicions in the first turn :)
Well I remember him adressing as "we" to the RUS developers, helps to get the big picture.
But on the otherhand there is a good community including betas wanting to try any improvements about RUS including your mod or others. As PON is rather long and and not easy to play, Rus is the best choice to return and play again and again as the best wargame in Age engine.
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ORIGINAL: Baris



Honesty is the first thing above all between modders ,players or between anyone.
I have found this sentence very biased "I get a nasty surprise early as I see that many of my troops are at low organization levels and some of my ships need repairs starting out. I get a further nasty surprise when I find out that I am not able to take any regional decisions at all. I foresee a very short career for the revolution at this rate" . There is a decrease grade for not having able to take regional desicions in the first turn :)
Well I remember him adressing as "we" to the RUS developers, helps to get the big picture.
But on the otherhand there is a good community including betas wanting to try any improvements about RUS including your mod or others. As PON is rather long and and not easy to play, Rus is the best choice to return and play again and again as the best wargame in Age engine.

Bah the real point is as always people are in general sufficiently smart to draw themselves conclusions about real motives of some. Facts are stubborn.

And I will just add one thing sincerely, you and some others I will not name have done with FY a betatesting job which AGEOD is maybe missing, with real bug reports, real remarks about gameplay and balance, not just pet idea exposed endlessly, or suggestions unfitted with the game design and concepts, or lousy bug report on very minor points when the big ones remain unnoticed. That is really precious, much more than the number; So, thanks. [:)]
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- one small, by raising the probability of active participation of French and Greek troops if the AIL is at 13.


The french contingent will never be active because d'Anselme is using a generic french portrait [:D]

Clovis, if you want to add it, will post it in AGEod forum soon [;)]
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ORIGINAL: Chliperic

- one small, by raising the probability of active participation of French and Greek troops if the AIL is at 13.


The french contingent will never be active because d'Anselme is using a generic french portrait [:D]

Clovis, if you want to add it, will post it in AGEod forum soon [;)]

Thanks Nikel. I will of course.[:)] That's interesting.

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Posted [;)]
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Posted [;)]


Downloaded [:)]Of course, for the next version in the next days.
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I wonder if a bonus of 35 VP is right or too high or too low. Let me know your VP results for those achieving a FY game. That's the best way to fine tune FY on this point.
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Lithuanian Sylvestras Zukauskas added [:)]

Should be BAL instead of LIT
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ORIGINAL: Nikel

Lithuanian Sylvestras Zukauskas added [:)]

Should be BAL instead of LIT

downloaded too. Next version [:)]

Keke, thanks, and let them exposing themselves. I must say they don't even understand how their replies are so much grievance done by them on themselves. They are really convinced of their superiority and purchasers should grant them whatever the current state of their releases.

BTW, i don't want to discuss this on the Matrix board. Matrix is a company I respect and I don't want to cause them any moderating problem. If needed, my blog is the place for this. I know it's soemtimes difficult to resist to the envy to remind some realities, but the right place isn't here and I will aplly this for the first culprit: myself [:)]Moreover, my blog will just remain a place to present and dicuss my mod. Not a "anti" fortress, except of course when needed. Why they are yet currently devising about FY? Why they haven't understood the best is to keep mute about FY and work on their games...

Back to FY and SVF [:)] Much more rejoicing.
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