Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

[Brazenman]

I also congratulate all!

[Brazenman]

[Brazenman]

ORIGINAL: Svetlanka

It would be interesting to play against you, if you create a scenario with the participation of the Red Army. Guadalajara and Mlava is a good scenarios, but they did not interest me. Sorry but I want to play for the Red Army. If you make scenario about the Winter War, or about battle of Khalkhin-Gol, then many Russian guys will be happy to play against you!

By the way, the Winter War is a very good idea, in my opinion



Mannerheim Line.
Cliffs, forests, lakes and rivers of Karelia. Minefields and fortifications. I think that Karaganov can make a beautiful map.

Guys.
I think you should think about it

[R35]

Nice map! Of course, in order to make a proper Winter War scenario you need a few more Finnish units than we already have. After all, they`re one of the only two factions involved in the conflict/scenario so you can`t just ignore them.

Personally I would rename the vanilla Finnish Ski to Jaegers and have them switch between a version with skis for the winter and another one with bicycles for when there`s no snow:
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/FORMATIONS6.htm

Also needed in my opinion would be

FT-17
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/TANKS1.htm

T-26C - captured soviet tanks - I`m not sure if they were used in action before the Continuation War, but it would be nice to be able to capture them in the scenario.
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/TANKS3.htm

40mm Bofors anti-aircraft gun
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AA_GUNS2.htm

37mm Bofors anti-tank gun:
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AT_GUNS1.htm#37PstK36

45 PstK/37 antitank gun - Finland captured some 93 Soviet 45-mm antitank-guns during Winter War and used them too from what I understand:
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AT_GUNS2.htm

Finnish Cavalry
http://www.ww2incolor.com/finnish_forces/r1238073.html
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/FORMATIONS5.htm

[Brazenman]

R-35
Good list
but I would add

Staff Car - Autokori
Finnish engineers
Suojeluskunta
Volunteers
120mm coastal gun Vickers
152mm coastal gun Canet
203 mm Haupitsi 1917

and several aircraft from the list
Fokker СХ
Fiat G.50 Freccia
Morane-Saulnier MS-406C1
Brewster В-239
GlosterJB Gladiator I
Hawker Hart
Potez 631
Blenheim Мk.I
Blenheim Мk.IV

[R35]

Actually, in terms of aircraft, some of those entered service too late for the Winter war. At the start you should only have the Bristol Blenheim Mk.I bomber, the Fokker D.XXI fighter (you`ve skipped this one) and the Bristol Bulldog (about 10 of them I think). The M.S.406, the Gloster Gladiator and the Brewster F2A Buffalo entered service in late January and February. The Hawker Hart I think was present in very small numbers (5?).

For the purpose of the Continuation war one could also add:

T-26E - the Vickers 6 ton with the 45mm soviet tank guns
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/T26E_1.jpg
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/TANKS2.htm

75 K/40 - 210 Guns bought from Germany and delivered 1943 - 1944
(7.5 cm Pak 40)
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/75PstK40_1.jpg
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AT_GUNS2.htm

105 K/29 - 54 guns bought from Germany were delivered in October of 1940
105 mm armata wz. 29
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY4.htm

105 H/37 - 140 manufactured and delivered to Army 1943 - 1945
(105 mm howitzer model 1937)
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY5.htm

150 H/40 - 48 howitzers bought from Germany late 1940
(150 mm howitzer model 1940)
(15 cm sFH 18)
http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY6.htm

Anyway, I`ll stop here so as not to derail Karaganov`s thread.

[Brazenman]

R-35
It's right
But let's not forget that these planes (Gloster Gladiator and G.50 Freccia) have taken an active part in the decisive battles for the Mannerheim Line.

I think that this line of planes would be the most appropriate for Finland

fighters
Fokker D.XXI
Bristol Bulldog
Morane-Saulnier MS-406C1
GlosterJB Gladiator I
Fiat G.50 Freccia

bombers
Bristol Blenheim Mk.I

recon planes
Fokker СХ

[Brazenman]

ORIGINAL: R35

Anyway, I`ll stop here so as not to derail Karaganov`s thread.

Do not worry about it
Karaganov will not grumble about this

[Brazenman]

[Brazenman]

[Brazenman]

[Kompolka]

Hi guys!
The Winter War is a very good idea! I also like such scenario!

Another good map for the Winter War.
http://pixs.ru/showimage/winterwar2_992 ... 877526.gif

[Karaganov]

About the Mannerheim Line
There need not very big map. Approximately 200x150.
Perhaps I could draw it. I think that it should not take much time. But after I finish map of the Western Front.

But I agree with the R-35, the current line of the Finnish units are very poor for such a big scenario.
As I see it, we need to add at least 20 new Finnish units and 2-3 new soviet units for this scenario.
In addition, we will need a few naval units for both sides.

So the ball on the party H.Balck

[R35]

Alot of people want to play as the Finns and they`ve been asking for Finland ever since the game was released. There have been few projects that add Finnish scenarios and now that we finally have Finland in game it is there only to serve as an early adversary to the Soviets. A well done Mannerheim Line scenario, designed to be played by both sides could be a very liked scenario.

[Brazenman]

after 132 moves

My troops valiantly fight off the enemy's attacks on the near approaches to Sevastopol.
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29890977/ ... 1.jpg.html
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29890988/ ... 2.jpg.html
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29890999/ ... 3.jpg.html
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891011/ ... 4.jpg.html

I had to leave Gurzuf. The enemy continues to attack on Yalta.
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891033/ ... 5.jpg.html
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891039/ ... 6.jpg.html

In Yalta arrived convoy of units of 386th Division.
Perhaps it will help me to change the situation in this sector of front.
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891050/ ... 7.jpg.html

The enemy broke through my defenses on the Ak-Monay Isthmus
But the 72-th of the Kuban Cossack Cavalry Division counterattacked advance units of the enemy's
This enabled my forces create a new line of defense along the line the lake Uzunlar - Samarli river.
A new front constituted the remnants of the 106th and 276th divisions, as well as fresh 138th division, which I had took from the Caucasus.
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891069/ ... 8.jpg.html
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891082/ ... 9.jpg.html
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891100/ ... 0.jpg.html
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-29891106/ ... 1.jpg.html

[Brazenman]

Great news guys!

H.Balck wrote:

OK - I will start to produce all wished units - 1st the Finsih packet.
1. Note - all showed UCs coming with 360° turning animations.
2. I hope Dennis can support this packet with a nice Winter map.





Note
All new units in the next topic

[Zhenka]

Yes, this is good news!
I also like this idea!

In addition, I think that then you can expand the map to the south and a little east.
Then you can create new great scenario - Battle of Leningrad.

[Brazenman]

Khalkhin-Gol, 20-31 august 1939
good map of military actions
http://www.istorya.ru/book/ww2/img/tmp8ED-105.jpg

[Brazenman]

Hasan Lake, 29-31 august 1938
good map of military actions
http://www.istorya.ru/book/ww2/img/tmp8ED-104.jpg

[Karaganov]

Good! We agreed.
I found the perfect map for this scenario.
http://www.etomesto.ru/view.php?map=pet ... =59.950287