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ORIGINAL: geofflambert
We need an app that allows us to have three or more cursors try to hold the planchette in place.
ORIGINAL: Yakface
Time Frame for Heat Death of the Universe
From the Big Bang through the present day, matter and dark matter in the universe are thought to have been concentrated in stars, galaxies, and galaxy clusters, and are presumed to continue to be so well into the future. Therefore, the universe is not in thermodynamic equilibrium and objects can do physical work.[11], §VID. The decay time for a supermassive black hole of roughly 1 galaxy-mass (1011 solar masses) due to Hawking radiation is on the order of 10^100 years,[12] so entropy can be produced until at least that time. After that time, the universe enters the so-called Dark Era, and is expected to consist chiefly of a dilute gas of photons and leptons.[11]§VIA With only very diffuse matter remaining, activity in the universe will have tailed off dramatically, with extremely low energy levels and extremely long time scales. Speculatively, it is possible that the universe may enter a second inflationary epoch, or, assuming that the current vacuum state is a false vacuum, the vacuum may decay into a lower-energy state.[11], §VE. It is also possible that entropy production will cease and the universe will reach heat death.[11], §VID. Possibly another universe could be created by random quantum fluctuations or quantum tunneling in roughly 10^{10^{10^{56}}}} year
Or put another way - roughly around the time Singapore falls.
Thank heavens for those quantum fluctuations because you're gonna need at least three universes to get past Japan's invasion bonus.
ORIGINAL: geofflambert
So long as you keep reading this AAR you will continue to exist, perhaps forever.
Our universe is defined by matter and time, and the "Gravity Particle" is responsible for virtually all that we can see, sense and measure. However some non-Gorn scientists who are smarter than even me (which is all of them), think that other universes are defined by having more of the other 10 sub-atomic particles and almost no gravity. This would make matter and time irrelevant, and might be the realm of our life force or "spirit/soul" after it leaves our body. Occasional intersections of the different universes might explain the appearance of spirits in our universe. It might even explain the US political system! [;)]ORIGINAL: geofflambert
It is apparent that it is time for a physics lesson from a certain Gornian scientist, myself. The universe is infinite in both time and space. This is so because there is no rational alternative. Some talk as if the universe is in some kind of membrane, a placental sac if you like. Someday a Gornian expedition may reach the point where the universe ends. There will be a sign hanging on the membrane which states “YOU MAY NOT PASS BEYOND THIS POINT”. Yeah, right. As a young gorn I was taught that some cosmologists believed that the universe has a shape. One of the more popular shapes was that of a saddle. I thought that was hilarious. In order for the universe to have a shape, there must be at least one (preferably two) outside points of reference. If there was an outside of the universe, it couldn’t very well be the universe, could it? The universe contains all that is. There is no other place or time that is not within it. The prefix “uni” means one, as in the one and only. If there was some outside of the U that we could somehow be aware of, collect evidence from, it would necessarily follow that this place, this time, this stuff was in the same universe we are. Space does not begin or end, how could it? Time does not begin or end, where would it have come from, and when? Oops.
We are located in an expansionary area of the universe, following a “big bang”. I assure you that was a local event. There must be an indefinite, even infinite number of “big bangs” happening elsewhere in the universe at any given time. Because we are in a relatively dense and expanding area of the U we can presume that the near neighborhood is cold, dark and thin. It may be that we will identify objects some day that were not part of our particular “big bang” but they should be rare needles in our haystack. We know theoretically that black holes could be, should be and therefor are ejected from their systems from time to time and are buzzing around all over the place and are completely invisible to us, at least until we get a whole lot better at detecting and interpreting gravity waves. We can “see” the locations of some black holes by the surrounding dust and plasma which heat up in the vicinity of the black hole and radiate in frequencies and intensity such that we can infer there must be a black hole in the middle of it. Some black holes and dark matter in other forms must exist outside of such an envelope of gas and dust which give them away. The neighborhood in which our bubble is expanding may well be filled with such dark matter.
Entropy as such must be a local and temporary state. As material collects, that material tends to heat up as long as more material is arriving. Once a black hole forms it ceases to radiate anything other than expressing its gravity. Black holes must be almost unimaginably hot as the heat cannot escape and would not be entropic but rather the opposite, getting hotter and hotter as time passes. I hypothesize that a threshold would be reached depending on more than one variable, such as mass and heat, where the very structure of the black hole dissolves with a resulting “big bang”.
In conclusion, I find that the length of time between turns in this AAR may not only be indefinite but perhaps infinite. So long as you keep reading this AAR you will continue to exist, perhaps forever.
Perhaps we could start a crowd-funding campaign for you? What particle would you like to be paid in?? Leptons sound nice ...ORIGINAL: geofflambert
I have been informed by some Ferengi who've been there that real estate prices in the 8th and 9th Circles of Hell are way beyond the means of poor gorns like me.
Hey - BB - why you bein' so cheap? How about you break out the list of 12 Gauge Bosons! [:D]ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Perhaps we could start a crowd-funding campaign for you? What particle would you like to be paid in?? Leptons sound nice ...ORIGINAL: geofflambert
I have been informed by some Ferengi who've been there that real estate prices in the 8th and 9th Circles of Hell are way beyond the means of poor gorns like me.
warspite1ORIGINAL: geofflambert
The Pontiusificator did not say bosons, he said bosoms. I would accept those gladly, but I would have taken bit bosons. This is part of the art of the deal. You wait for the other person to sweat a little then make an offer you want.
You know we reptiles suffer from a very serious shortage of bosoms. We'll take all we can get.
There was an 80s TV sitcom called 'Bosom Buddies', which would have been forgotten but for the presence of an unknown actor named Hanks.ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1ORIGINAL: geofflambert
The Pontiusificator did not say bosons, he said bosoms. I would accept those gladly, but I would have taken bit bosons. This is part of the art of the deal. You wait for the other person to sweat a little then make an offer you want.
You know we reptiles suffer from a very serious shortage of bosoms. We'll take all we can get.
The answer is always bosoms
